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  • L littleGreenDude

    About 10 days ago, I posted a thread; The Lounge[^] discussing how to decide when it is time to upgrade your machine. In among the sarcasm, humor and anecdotes was actually a couple of good suggestions, with the key one being upgrade to SSD. :thumbsup: Thank you to those who suggested this. What impresses me most is how much faster web browsing is, I guess caching all those images to the HDD really slowed things down. With that said, I have managed to stumble on to an issue When the drive arrived, I jumped on CNET read a step by step article on upgrading your HDD to SSD, downloaded the recommended tool, plugged in the SSD to the USB and cloned the HDD to the SSD. Removed the HDD and installed the SSD. Crossed my fingers and restarted the machine. Much to my elation, it booted quickly, windows started faster and life was good. :) Hey wait a minute. Not so fast. What's this? I bought a 1TB SSD and when I look at the drive properties it says 500GB. It shows the other 500GB as un-partitioned space, which makes no sense for an SSD. 500GB was the size of my HDD. Apparently the shareware tool caused this during the clone process. Moral of the story - "you get what you pay for", or "if it is free it is for me, except when it comes to shareware" Has anybody else run on to this? Am I hosed at this point and have to go back to ground zero and start the process all over again? Or is there some way to claim the un-partitioned space?

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    Clifford Nelson
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    I just recently updated my laptop from a 28 gb ssd to a 256 gb ssd. Not much choice if I wanted to get a recent Windows Update to work since most of the space was used for the OS, with only the smaller applications installed on the SSD, the big ones like Office on the hard drive. What really drove me was that I had a version of Visual Studio that expired, and could not install the free version on the secondary drive. Had to rebuild the machine. Anyway, if I was going to rebuild the machine, I figured I should just put in a new SSD since 28 GB was not going to hack it. If this had happened to me it would have been pointless since I needed a bigger hard drive just to install the OS with its newest update. On the software I used it was obvious how to increase the space to use the whole drive.

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    • L littleGreenDude

      I went with 1TB Crucial

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      Crucial is good brand.

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      • L littleGreenDude

        About 10 days ago, I posted a thread; The Lounge[^] discussing how to decide when it is time to upgrade your machine. In among the sarcasm, humor and anecdotes was actually a couple of good suggestions, with the key one being upgrade to SSD. :thumbsup: Thank you to those who suggested this. What impresses me most is how much faster web browsing is, I guess caching all those images to the HDD really slowed things down. With that said, I have managed to stumble on to an issue When the drive arrived, I jumped on CNET read a step by step article on upgrading your HDD to SSD, downloaded the recommended tool, plugged in the SSD to the USB and cloned the HDD to the SSD. Removed the HDD and installed the SSD. Crossed my fingers and restarted the machine. Much to my elation, it booted quickly, windows started faster and life was good. :) Hey wait a minute. Not so fast. What's this? I bought a 1TB SSD and when I look at the drive properties it says 500GB. It shows the other 500GB as un-partitioned space, which makes no sense for an SSD. 500GB was the size of my HDD. Apparently the shareware tool caused this during the clone process. Moral of the story - "you get what you pay for", or "if it is free it is for me, except when it comes to shareware" Has anybody else run on to this? Am I hosed at this point and have to go back to ground zero and start the process all over again? Or is there some way to claim the un-partitioned space?

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        Marc Clifton
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        And breathes new life into my productivity. Why they don't use SSD's where I work is beyond comprehension.

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        • K kmoorevs

          Personally, I'd create another partition or two out of that unallocated space...just something I've always done.

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          Rick York
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          That's what I would do too.

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          • F Foothill

            That will certainly speed your Acer up but I don't think that you will get anything near the advertised speed unless your SATA bus is version 3.0 or higher. SATA 2.0 is capped at 300 MBs.

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            Lost User
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            1. it'll still be much faster than a normal HDD, and 2. later if you update your machine move that SSD over coz the new hardware will give you that SATA 3.

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            • M Marc Clifton

              And breathes new life into my productivity. Why they don't use SSD's where I work is beyond comprehension.

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              one company I visited "upgraded" most of their desktops, of course the cheap idiots bought machines (dells "clearance stock") "2015 models" with HDD's of course. Complaint: "these new machines aren't any faster." Anyway a couple of the machines had the HDD's fail - just over a year so no warranty. Was a bit quiet for me so I offered to help fix them up. Quoted them SSD's, of course "why so expensive? (500GB Samsung, cheap, of course more then HDD). Anyway did convince them to go my way... and they loved it. (nice little couple days earner for a couple hours of actual simple work.) Only remaining complaint [which strangely ONLY comes from those still on HDD]: "when is my machine going to break down?" (I've suggested 'accidentally spilling coffee into the box' - no one has had the guts to do it).

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              • L littleGreenDude

                About 10 days ago, I posted a thread; The Lounge[^] discussing how to decide when it is time to upgrade your machine. In among the sarcasm, humor and anecdotes was actually a couple of good suggestions, with the key one being upgrade to SSD. :thumbsup: Thank you to those who suggested this. What impresses me most is how much faster web browsing is, I guess caching all those images to the HDD really slowed things down. With that said, I have managed to stumble on to an issue When the drive arrived, I jumped on CNET read a step by step article on upgrading your HDD to SSD, downloaded the recommended tool, plugged in the SSD to the USB and cloned the HDD to the SSD. Removed the HDD and installed the SSD. Crossed my fingers and restarted the machine. Much to my elation, it booted quickly, windows started faster and life was good. :) Hey wait a minute. Not so fast. What's this? I bought a 1TB SSD and when I look at the drive properties it says 500GB. It shows the other 500GB as un-partitioned space, which makes no sense for an SSD. 500GB was the size of my HDD. Apparently the shareware tool caused this during the clone process. Moral of the story - "you get what you pay for", or "if it is free it is for me, except when it comes to shareware" Has anybody else run on to this? Am I hosed at this point and have to go back to ground zero and start the process all over again? Or is there some way to claim the un-partitioned space?

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                Ravi Bhavnani
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                littleGreenDude wrote:

                SSD is definitely the way to go to breathe new life in to an old laptop

                :thumbsup: That, and more RAM if your machine accepts it. /ravi

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                • R realJSOP

                  I'm looking at this one for my 7-year-old Acer laptop: Amaon: Crucial 500gb[^] I'm seriously considering installing Linux on it and converting the current win7 install to a virtual machine.

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                  kmoorevs
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                  That's a really good price...almost a no-brainer! I've got an 8 yo laptop that received a SSD transplant about 2 years ago. Huge improvement! Well worth the money even then. At times I prefer it to a much newer hp laptop which seems to be haunted. :suss:

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                    I'm looking at this one for my 7-year-old Acer laptop: Amaon: Crucial 500gb[^] I'm seriously considering installing Linux on it and converting the current win7 install to a virtual machine.

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                    Crucial doesn't have the reputation Intel or Samsung have for their SSDs, but I have no idea what they're talking about. I have 4 or 5 Crucial drives, and I'm very happy with them. The price you're looking at makes it a no-brainer, even if your laptop's bus might not allow it to run at the full speed the drive is capable of. As a bonus, being a bog-standard SATA drive, you know you can physical migrate it to another system down the road.

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                      Crucial doesn't have the reputation Intel or Samsung have for their SSDs, but I have no idea what they're talking about. I have 4 or 5 Crucial drives, and I'm very happy with them. The price you're looking at makes it a no-brainer, even if your laptop's bus might not allow it to run at the full speed the drive is capable of. As a bonus, being a bog-standard SATA drive, you know you can physical migrate it to another system down the road.

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                      All SSD is, is a different kind of memory than RAM. Crucial has an outstanding reputation for their RAM modules.

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                      • L littleGreenDude

                        About 10 days ago, I posted a thread; The Lounge[^] discussing how to decide when it is time to upgrade your machine. In among the sarcasm, humor and anecdotes was actually a couple of good suggestions, with the key one being upgrade to SSD. :thumbsup: Thank you to those who suggested this. What impresses me most is how much faster web browsing is, I guess caching all those images to the HDD really slowed things down. With that said, I have managed to stumble on to an issue When the drive arrived, I jumped on CNET read a step by step article on upgrading your HDD to SSD, downloaded the recommended tool, plugged in the SSD to the USB and cloned the HDD to the SSD. Removed the HDD and installed the SSD. Crossed my fingers and restarted the machine. Much to my elation, it booted quickly, windows started faster and life was good. :) Hey wait a minute. Not so fast. What's this? I bought a 1TB SSD and when I look at the drive properties it says 500GB. It shows the other 500GB as un-partitioned space, which makes no sense for an SSD. 500GB was the size of my HDD. Apparently the shareware tool caused this during the clone process. Moral of the story - "you get what you pay for", or "if it is free it is for me, except when it comes to shareware" Has anybody else run on to this? Am I hosed at this point and have to go back to ground zero and start the process all over again? Or is there some way to claim the un-partitioned space?

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                        Kirill Illenseer
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                        I once had the litereally same and I brought this upon myself. When doing something similar as you did, I used dd to copy the whole disk block-wise. With the same result, the one partition was as large as it was before. The solution is incredibly simple: Resize the partition. Windows' own diskmgmt.msc is perfectly able to do so.

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                        • F Foothill

                          Just curious here but what SSD did you go with. When I had to rebuild my home rig I went with one of these: Intel 600p[^]. I tell you what, those M.2 SSDs running on the PCIe bus are stupid fast and quite reasonably priced.

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                          Kirk 10389821
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                          I hope you did NOT by a CRUCIAL SSD. we will no longer install them. We have had 3 SSD Failures. ALL OF THEM CRUCIALS. Oh, they replaced 1 or 2 of them under warranty. Useless because by then, they were too small anyways, but we did it to extract our pound of flesh. 2 of them were FIRMWARE Problems THEY CREATED by having some leftover testing code in. We used them for too many hours, and triggered the code. We use ABC: Anything But Crucial. LOL We like the SanDisk ones, and have no problems. We replace every 3 years. Our machines are usually on 24x7.

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                          • L littleGreenDude

                            About 10 days ago, I posted a thread; The Lounge[^] discussing how to decide when it is time to upgrade your machine. In among the sarcasm, humor and anecdotes was actually a couple of good suggestions, with the key one being upgrade to SSD. :thumbsup: Thank you to those who suggested this. What impresses me most is how much faster web browsing is, I guess caching all those images to the HDD really slowed things down. With that said, I have managed to stumble on to an issue When the drive arrived, I jumped on CNET read a step by step article on upgrading your HDD to SSD, downloaded the recommended tool, plugged in the SSD to the USB and cloned the HDD to the SSD. Removed the HDD and installed the SSD. Crossed my fingers and restarted the machine. Much to my elation, it booted quickly, windows started faster and life was good. :) Hey wait a minute. Not so fast. What's this? I bought a 1TB SSD and when I look at the drive properties it says 500GB. It shows the other 500GB as un-partitioned space, which makes no sense for an SSD. 500GB was the size of my HDD. Apparently the shareware tool caused this during the clone process. Moral of the story - "you get what you pay for", or "if it is free it is for me, except when it comes to shareware" Has anybody else run on to this? Am I hosed at this point and have to go back to ground zero and start the process all over again? Or is there some way to claim the un-partitioned space?

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                            Mike Meinz
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                            Totally agree with the subject of the original post. A few months ago, I used the free version of Macrium Reflect to upgrade my HP ENVY DV7 from a 700GB HDD to a Samsung 860 EVO 1TB 2.5 Inch SATA III SSD. The power on process is so fast that I no longer use Windows Hibernate when I power down at night. Furthermore, I have the free version of Macrium Reflect making daily incremental image backups and a once per month total backup image to my NAS device. Very pleased with the result.

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                            • K Kirk 10389821

                              I hope you did NOT by a CRUCIAL SSD. we will no longer install them. We have had 3 SSD Failures. ALL OF THEM CRUCIALS. Oh, they replaced 1 or 2 of them under warranty. Useless because by then, they were too small anyways, but we did it to extract our pound of flesh. 2 of them were FIRMWARE Problems THEY CREATED by having some leftover testing code in. We used them for too many hours, and triggered the code. We use ABC: Anything But Crucial. LOL We like the SanDisk ones, and have no problems. We replace every 3 years. Our machines are usually on 24x7.

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                              Foothill
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                              Nope. I pretty much stick to Intel SSDs. I have yet to have one die on their own without some external cause. I lost one when a cheap-a$$ SATA cable shorted out; sparks, fire, and smoke included. Lost most of the PC on that one :sigh:

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                              • F Foothill

                                Just curious here but what SSD did you go with. When I had to rebuild my home rig I went with one of these: Intel 600p[^]. I tell you what, those M.2 SSDs running on the PCIe bus are stupid fast and quite reasonably priced.

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                                They are - I'm using one for my current home PC. But most laptops - especially older ones - wouldn't have the interface for it.

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                                  I hope you did NOT by a CRUCIAL SSD. we will no longer install them. We have had 3 SSD Failures. ALL OF THEM CRUCIALS. Oh, they replaced 1 or 2 of them under warranty. Useless because by then, they were too small anyways, but we did it to extract our pound of flesh. 2 of them were FIRMWARE Problems THEY CREATED by having some leftover testing code in. We used them for too many hours, and triggered the code. We use ABC: Anything But Crucial. LOL We like the SanDisk ones, and have no problems. We replace every 3 years. Our machines are usually on 24x7.

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                                  Well, all of the SSDs have 5-ratings amounting to between 84 and 87%, so in all truth, it's a crap-shoot anyway. There's also this one in the same general price range: Amazon.com: Samsung 860 Evo 500GB 2.5 inch SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-76E500B/AM): Computers & Accessories[^]

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                                  • R realJSOP

                                    All SSD is, is a different kind of memory than RAM. Crucial has an outstanding reputation for their RAM modules.

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                                    dandy72
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                                    Fair enough.

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                                      I'm looking at this one for my 7-year-old Acer laptop: Amaon: Crucial 500gb[^] I'm seriously considering installing Linux on it and converting the current win7 install to a virtual machine.

                                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                      Steven1218
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                                      Regarding "seriously considering installing Linux on it and converting the current win7 install to a virtual machine", I am thinking along the same lines. If you do this, please let us know how that works out.

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                                      • L littleGreenDude

                                        About 10 days ago, I posted a thread; The Lounge[^] discussing how to decide when it is time to upgrade your machine. In among the sarcasm, humor and anecdotes was actually a couple of good suggestions, with the key one being upgrade to SSD. :thumbsup: Thank you to those who suggested this. What impresses me most is how much faster web browsing is, I guess caching all those images to the HDD really slowed things down. With that said, I have managed to stumble on to an issue When the drive arrived, I jumped on CNET read a step by step article on upgrading your HDD to SSD, downloaded the recommended tool, plugged in the SSD to the USB and cloned the HDD to the SSD. Removed the HDD and installed the SSD. Crossed my fingers and restarted the machine. Much to my elation, it booted quickly, windows started faster and life was good. :) Hey wait a minute. Not so fast. What's this? I bought a 1TB SSD and when I look at the drive properties it says 500GB. It shows the other 500GB as un-partitioned space, which makes no sense for an SSD. 500GB was the size of my HDD. Apparently the shareware tool caused this during the clone process. Moral of the story - "you get what you pay for", or "if it is free it is for me, except when it comes to shareware" Has anybody else run on to this? Am I hosed at this point and have to go back to ground zero and start the process all over again? Or is there some way to claim the un-partitioned space?

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                                        matblue25
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                                        Glad it worked. There are lots of partition managers out there. You can use the diskpart command line tool (not very user friendly) or the Windows disk management tool (right click “This PC” then select Manage). Make sure you have a complete backup before messing with the partition. I’ve never had a problem with it but you never know.

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                                        • K Kirk 10389821

                                          I hope you did NOT by a CRUCIAL SSD. we will no longer install them. We have had 3 SSD Failures. ALL OF THEM CRUCIALS. Oh, they replaced 1 or 2 of them under warranty. Useless because by then, they were too small anyways, but we did it to extract our pound of flesh. 2 of them were FIRMWARE Problems THEY CREATED by having some leftover testing code in. We used them for too many hours, and triggered the code. We use ABC: Anything But Crucial. LOL We like the SanDisk ones, and have no problems. We replace every 3 years. Our machines are usually on 24x7.

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                                          After over 35 years of experience I seen EVERY brand of every component "screw-up". I've had problems with SanDisk SSD's - strangely slow R/W was one. Replaced with an APACER Armor - not a major SSD player - and it "screamed". So there you are?!?!

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