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  • R raddevus

    While you're waiting on his next book, try his, The Annotated Turing: A Guided Tour Through Alan Turing's Historic Paper on Computability and the Turing Machine[^] I'm no mathematician, but I found that it stimulated a lot of thoughts and was extremely interesting. It made me think about math and computing in ways that nothing else has.

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    Thanks I'll keep it in mind. Right now I've got 4 books in the queue!

    Everyone has a photographic memory; some just don't have film. Steven Wright

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    • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

      Thanks I'll keep it in mind. Right now I've got 4 books in the queue!

      Everyone has a photographic memory; some just don't have film. Steven Wright

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      raddevus
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      Mike Hankey wrote:

      Right now I've got 4 books in the queue!

      :thumbsup: I know what you mean. I've got a couple myself. :)

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      • R raddevus

        Mike Hankey wrote:

        Right now I've got 4 books in the queue!

        :thumbsup: I know what you mean. I've got a couple myself. :)

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        I just finished TCP/IP Guide[^] a couple of days ago so I'm letting my brain rest for a while and let it sink in!

        Everyone has a photographic memory; some just don't have film. Steven Wright

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        • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

          I just finished TCP/IP Guide[^] a couple of days ago so I'm letting my brain rest for a while and let it sink in!

          Everyone has a photographic memory; some just don't have film. Steven Wright

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          Mike Hankey wrote:

          I'm letting my brain rest for a while and let it sink in

          Phew...I guess. That is a big book at over 1500 pages.

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          • R raddevus

            Mike Hankey wrote:

            I'm letting my brain rest for a while and let it sink in

            Phew...I guess. That is a big book at over 1500 pages.

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            My goal was 50-100 pages/day so you can see how long it took.

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            • I Infosys Irvine

              Guess it is a good time, and maybe should have left earlier. Windows and Microsoft appear to be in a sharp decline...Balmer destroyed the company, or at lead it to continue being a leader in the computer industry.

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              Steven Sinofsky is the real person that started the Microsoft decline, but Balmer was the guy that put him in charge and took too long before firing him.

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                My goal was 50-100 pages/day so you can see how long it took.

                Everyone has a photographic memory; some just don't have film. Steven Wright

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                Mike Hankey wrote:

                My goal was 50-100 pages/day

                I'm impressed and inspired. 50-100 pages a day is a great goal. Also, I'm impressed that you know that you must set a goal otherwise we all just slip into not doing the task. I'm also inspired to try to read 50 pages of my tech book (Programming ASP.NET Core, Programming ASP.NET Core [^] ) per day. It's shorter so it'll take far less time.

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                • R raddevus

                  Mike Hankey wrote:

                  My goal was 50-100 pages/day

                  I'm impressed and inspired. 50-100 pages a day is a great goal. Also, I'm impressed that you know that you must set a goal otherwise we all just slip into not doing the task. I'm also inspired to try to read 50 pages of my tech book (Programming ASP.NET Core, Programming ASP.NET Core [^] ) per day. It's shorter so it'll take far less time.

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                  Since I retired, several years ago now I set 3 goals that I want to accomplish every day. Not just programming, I'm avid outdoorsman but it's too hot in the summer here in Florida to hike. A lot of people that slow down after retirement and sit in front of the idiot box die within a year, those that stay active last a little longer. So far I'm still looking at the green side!

                  Everyone has a photographic memory; some just don't have film. Steven Wright

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                  • R Ravi Bhavnani

                    From his FB post: "Effective today, I have resigned my employment at Microsoft, concluding an engaging and delightful 4½ years as part of the Xamarin documentation team. I will miss my co-workers immensely, and I hope to keep in touch with them on Facebook. Simultaneously, I am retiring from my 34-year career of writing, speaking, and thinking about programming and APIs. This career has taken me from assembly language MS-DOS utilities in the back pages of "PC Magazine"; to many years of C, C++, and C# Windows code in books and in articles in "MSJ" and "MSDN Magazine"; to cross-platform mobile development in C#. It's been a wonderful journey that I hope has benefited the developer community as much as it has been personally rewarding to me. I am making these decisions so that I can shift my full attention to a long-term project to write several books on various milestones in the historical foundations of computing, of which "The Annotated Turing" was the first and "Computer of the Tides" will (I hope) be the second. And who knows? Perhaps my best and most enduring work is yet to come!" /ravi

                    My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                    I learned to program Windows with his Programming Windows 3.0 book. Unfortunately, I wasn't so impressed with many of his later books. (To the point where I recommended against his early .NET books. Perhaps they improved after .NET 2.0.)

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                    • D Dewey

                      Steven Sinofsky is the real person that started the Microsoft decline, but Balmer was the guy that put him in charge and took too long before firing him.

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                      Infosys Irvine
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                      Thanks for the input :). I still remember Balmer bragging that Windows 8 could run HTML 5 natively. Tell be again why I need an OS and not just a browser. That is Chrome.

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                      • J Joe Woodbury

                        I learned to program Windows with his Programming Windows 3.0 book. Unfortunately, I wasn't so impressed with many of his later books. (To the point where I recommended against his early .NET books. Perhaps they improved after .NET 2.0.)

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                        I also was disappointed with his .NET books, Joe

                        «... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12

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                          Steven Sinofsky is the real person that started the Microsoft decline, but Balmer was the guy that put him in charge and took too long before firing him.

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                          re Sinofsky and Ballmer: I would rather fault the asylum administration for hiring insane psychiatrists, and for confusing clients with inmates :wtf:

                          «... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12

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                          • R raddevus

                            While you're waiting on his next book, try his, The Annotated Turing: A Guided Tour Through Alan Turing's Historic Paper on Computability and the Turing Machine[^] I'm no mathematician, but I found that it stimulated a lot of thoughts and was extremely interesting. It made me think about math and computing in ways that nothing else has.

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                            The Essential Turing: Seminal Writings in Computing, Logic, Philosophy, Artificial Intelligence, and Artificial Life: Plus The Secrets of Enigma edited by Jack Copeland You can find a downloadable pdf on several academic sites. Paperback: 622 pages Publisher: Clarendon Press; 1 edition (November 18, 2004) Language: English ISBN-10: 0198250800 ISBN-13: 978-0198250807 is also good

                            «... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12

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                              The Essential Turing: Seminal Writings in Computing, Logic, Philosophy, Artificial Intelligence, and Artificial Life: Plus The Secrets of Enigma edited by Jack Copeland You can find a downloadable pdf on several academic sites. Paperback: 622 pages Publisher: Clarendon Press; 1 edition (November 18, 2004) Language: English ISBN-10: 0198250800 ISBN-13: 978-0198250807 is also good

                              «... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12

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                              raddevus
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                              Interesting, I will take a look. Thanks! :thumbsup:

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                              • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                                Since I retired, several years ago now I set 3 goals that I want to accomplish every day. Not just programming, I'm avid outdoorsman but it's too hot in the summer here in Florida to hike. A lot of people that slow down after retirement and sit in front of the idiot box die within a year, those that stay active last a little longer. So far I'm still looking at the green side!

                                Everyone has a photographic memory; some just don't have film. Steven Wright

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                                raddevus
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                                Very smart! And very encouraging to keep in mind. :thumbsup:

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                                • R Ravi Bhavnani

                                  From his FB post: "Effective today, I have resigned my employment at Microsoft, concluding an engaging and delightful 4½ years as part of the Xamarin documentation team. I will miss my co-workers immensely, and I hope to keep in touch with them on Facebook. Simultaneously, I am retiring from my 34-year career of writing, speaking, and thinking about programming and APIs. This career has taken me from assembly language MS-DOS utilities in the back pages of "PC Magazine"; to many years of C, C++, and C# Windows code in books and in articles in "MSJ" and "MSDN Magazine"; to cross-platform mobile development in C#. It's been a wonderful journey that I hope has benefited the developer community as much as it has been personally rewarding to me. I am making these decisions so that I can shift my full attention to a long-term project to write several books on various milestones in the historical foundations of computing, of which "The Annotated Turing" was the first and "Computer of the Tides" will (I hope) be the second. And who knows? Perhaps my best and most enduring work is yet to come!" /ravi

                                  My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                                  OH NO....

                                  Caveat Emptor. "Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long

                                  We are in the beginning of a mass extinction. - Greta Thunberg

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                                  • R Ravi Bhavnani

                                    From his FB post: "Effective today, I have resigned my employment at Microsoft, concluding an engaging and delightful 4½ years as part of the Xamarin documentation team. I will miss my co-workers immensely, and I hope to keep in touch with them on Facebook. Simultaneously, I am retiring from my 34-year career of writing, speaking, and thinking about programming and APIs. This career has taken me from assembly language MS-DOS utilities in the back pages of "PC Magazine"; to many years of C, C++, and C# Windows code in books and in articles in "MSJ" and "MSDN Magazine"; to cross-platform mobile development in C#. It's been a wonderful journey that I hope has benefited the developer community as much as it has been personally rewarding to me. I am making these decisions so that I can shift my full attention to a long-term project to write several books on various milestones in the historical foundations of computing, of which "The Annotated Turing" was the first and "Computer of the Tides" will (I hope) be the second. And who knows? Perhaps my best and most enduring work is yet to come!" /ravi

                                    My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                                    Wow! In some weird way, this sounds like the end of an era, to me. Wish him the best. :java:

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                                    • R Ravi Bhavnani

                                      From his FB post: "Effective today, I have resigned my employment at Microsoft, concluding an engaging and delightful 4½ years as part of the Xamarin documentation team. I will miss my co-workers immensely, and I hope to keep in touch with them on Facebook. Simultaneously, I am retiring from my 34-year career of writing, speaking, and thinking about programming and APIs. This career has taken me from assembly language MS-DOS utilities in the back pages of "PC Magazine"; to many years of C, C++, and C# Windows code in books and in articles in "MSJ" and "MSDN Magazine"; to cross-platform mobile development in C#. It's been a wonderful journey that I hope has benefited the developer community as much as it has been personally rewarding to me. I am making these decisions so that I can shift my full attention to a long-term project to write several books on various milestones in the historical foundations of computing, of which "The Annotated Turing" was the first and "Computer of the Tides" will (I hope) be the second. And who knows? Perhaps my best and most enduring work is yet to come!" /ravi

                                      My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                                      Ron Anders
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                                      Somewhere around here is the Petzold C for Windows book. Back in the 3.0 / 3.1 days. Thanks a ton Chuck. :thumbsup:

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                                        I also was disappointed with his .NET books, Joe

                                        «... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12

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                                        raddevus
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                                        I agree with this too. He often got into the weeds with all that graphics programming stuff in the .NET books. They weren't like Programming Windows 3.0 where he just set out the details of Windows programming and explained everything so clearly. I really enjoyed his early stuff and his book, Code: The Hidden Language of Computers.

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                                        • R Ron Anders

                                          Somewhere around here is the Petzold C for Windows book. Back in the 3.0 / 3.1 days. Thanks a ton Chuck. :thumbsup:

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                                          Ravi Bhavnani
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                                          Yep, that's what made me choose between Mac and Windows in 1994!  I literally had 2 sets of manuals in front of me: The Apple Developer's Toolkit and Programming Windows with Visual C++, and decided to go with Windows after reading portions of both.  Never looked back, although I'd be willing to embrace iOS after I master Android. /ravi

                                          My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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