Not Amazon's Fault, Blame US Postal Service
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I ordered a FireStick on amazon late in the day on friday. It said it would be delivered Sunday. Sunday I checked on the delivery and it said it as "out for delivery". Was busy and didn't check again for a while. The status said, "the package was left on your porch near your door". I looked and it wasn't there. I'd been outside (in the front) all day. There was no reason for the post person to walk to the door. We have large mailboxes on our street that are accessible by mail truck. We are way at the end of a court / dead-end so we had no traffic. So, I guessed the Sunday delivery person left it at the wrong house. I looked around, drove down our road and tried to check other people's porches. Nothing. The Failure of The WEB AGAIN!!! (Note: I'm talking about individual web sites having crappy interfaces and functionality -- but it is because it is on purpose, because the sites don't want to provide functionality) So I decided to report it. I just wanted to let the us postal service know that, "hey, they delivered it to the wrong house, please do something". The automated phone message goes on for about 15 minutes about the North Carolina flooding and why you may not have received a package and then after that it tells you " we are not open right now". :mad: I go online to report it. Takes about 15 minutes on the us postal service web site to find out a way to report a missing package. I put in the tracking number and it says,"The package did not have insurance on it so you cannot report this package." :mad::mad::mad::mad: What?!? I cannot even tell you that you delivered it to the wrong address?!? I wish the US postal service would go out of business. This never would've happened with UPS or Fedex. I reported it to Amazon but they didn't really understand either. They just said, "If you don't get it by October 1 then we'll send you another." I don't understand this at all. I used to think (in my youthful naivete) that the postal service had gravitas and packages and letters sent through it were something very important. Now the attitude is, "well, you are lucky if you received it. If you didn't then well, it happens. Sorry about your luck." :| EDIT - CLOSING THE LOOP I got home today after work and the package was in my mailbox. It seems to just be the way the process works. :| They mark the pkg as delivered, of course, even though it hasn't been delivered yet, it will be delivered in the future. X|
raddevus wrote:
This never would've happened with UPS or Fedex.
Actually, FedEx is way worse. I've had many, many problems with them. It seems like it would be easy to have a GPS in the vehicle such that when the driver marks it as delivered, it records the GPS coordinates. Shouldn't be too hard. But I have seen several times that it says it was delivered only to have it show up the next day. Not sure why, but I'd give it a day, especially since there is very little delivery on Sundays anyway.
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That's not the half of it. I've received a lot of other people's mail. I am sure some of my mail went somewhere else. I have even gotten a neighbor's medications before. What can you expect from a organization that shifted most of their postal delivery positions from full-time to part-time. What's worse, when I questioned on of the mail carriers about it, he just told me to throw wrongly-delivered mail away, because...that's what they do to envelops marked return to sender. :doh:
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Thanks for sharing. It's good to commiserate about this whole mail service thing.
Foothill wrote:
What's worse, when I questioned on of the mail carriers about it, he just told me to throw wrongly-delivered mail away, because...that's what they do to envelops marked return to sender
This shocks me because it should...but it does not shock me in the present day because I know the mail service is 💩💩💩💩💩💩
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Happens to me a lot.
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raddevus wrote:
This never would've happened with UPS or Fedex.
Actually, FedEx is way worse. I've had many, many problems with them. It seems like it would be easy to have a GPS in the vehicle such that when the driver marks it as delivered, it records the GPS coordinates. Shouldn't be too hard. But I have seen several times that it says it was delivered only to have it show up the next day. Not sure why, but I'd give it a day, especially since there is very little delivery on Sundays anyway.
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â€011111100010‬ wrote:
Actually, FedEx is way worse. I've had many, many problems with them.
Interesting.
â€011111100010‬ wrote:
I'd give it a day, especially since there is very little delivery on Sundays anyway.
I agree. I'm hoping it does just show up and it seems to be what will happen, it's just weird that they gave the message "it was left on your porch". In the past, I had the mail carrier mark it as "the item was too large for the mailbox and couldn't be left". Then, the next day, the item was placed in the mailbox. It was a very small item. :|
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â€011111100010‬ wrote:
Actually, FedEx is way worse. I've had many, many problems with them.
Interesting.
â€011111100010‬ wrote:
I'd give it a day, especially since there is very little delivery on Sundays anyway.
I agree. I'm hoping it does just show up and it seems to be what will happen, it's just weird that they gave the message "it was left on your porch". In the past, I had the mail carrier mark it as "the item was too large for the mailbox and couldn't be left". Then, the next day, the item was placed in the mailbox. It was a very small item. :|
I don't know if it has changed, but USPS charged a delivery fee for delivering stamps. Even though they come to my house almost everyday. Ya, the post office is nutty.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
It'll arrive today.
I think you are correct. I think the "it was placed on the porch" was just a lie of some sort.:~ I don't understand it though. :confused:
raddevus wrote:
I think the "it was placed on the porch" was just a lie of some sort. I don't understand it though
This way, the carrier doesn't get dinged on their review for not delivering packages on time.
I live in Oregon, and I'm an engineer.
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raddevus wrote:
I think the "it was placed on the porch" was just a lie of some sort. I don't understand it though
This way, the carrier doesn't get dinged on their review for not delivering packages on time.
I live in Oregon, and I'm an engineer.
patbob wrote:
This way, the carrier doesn't get dinged on their review for not delivering packages on time.
Nailed it!! I do believe that is exactly the reason for this. It is completely Evil and part of the terrible bureaucracy that is created by the terrible mail system.
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patbob wrote:
This way, the carrier doesn't get dinged on their review for not delivering packages on time.
Nailed it!! I do believe that is exactly the reason for this. It is completely Evil and part of the terrible bureaucracy that is created by the terrible mail system.
raddevus wrote:
It is completely Evil and part of the terrible bureaucracy that is created by the terrible mail system
I agree it's evil, but not part of the mail system. If you create a metric and incentivize people to meet it, you get behavior change. Just maybe not the one you wanted :) [Obligatory Dilbert[^]]
I live in Oregon, and I'm an engineer.
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raddevus wrote:
This never would've happened with UPS or Fedex.
Actually, FedEx is way worse. I've had many, many problems with them. It seems like it would be easy to have a GPS in the vehicle such that when the driver marks it as delivered, it records the GPS coordinates. Shouldn't be too hard. But I have seen several times that it says it was delivered only to have it show up the next day. Not sure why, but I'd give it a day, especially since there is very little delivery on Sundays anyway.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
That's happened to me. The package was from Amazon UK and they use a service for deliveries in the USA that does not provide tracking information. Anyway, I checked on Amazon's (UK) site and it stated the package had been delivered when it hadn't. I promptly reported it to them as not being delivered and they started shipment of another of the same item. Then I found it in the box the next day. I tried to stop the new order but couldn't so I ended up with two copies of one movie. They blew it off as something that happens often.
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raddevus wrote:
It is completely Evil and part of the terrible bureaucracy that is created by the terrible mail system
I agree it's evil, but not part of the mail system. If you create a metric and incentivize people to meet it, you get behavior change. Just maybe not the one you wanted :) [Obligatory Dilbert[^]]
I live in Oregon, and I'm an engineer.
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I ordered a FireStick on amazon late in the day on friday. It said it would be delivered Sunday. Sunday I checked on the delivery and it said it as "out for delivery". Was busy and didn't check again for a while. The status said, "the package was left on your porch near your door". I looked and it wasn't there. I'd been outside (in the front) all day. There was no reason for the post person to walk to the door. We have large mailboxes on our street that are accessible by mail truck. We are way at the end of a court / dead-end so we had no traffic. So, I guessed the Sunday delivery person left it at the wrong house. I looked around, drove down our road and tried to check other people's porches. Nothing. The Failure of The WEB AGAIN!!! (Note: I'm talking about individual web sites having crappy interfaces and functionality -- but it is because it is on purpose, because the sites don't want to provide functionality) So I decided to report it. I just wanted to let the us postal service know that, "hey, they delivered it to the wrong house, please do something". The automated phone message goes on for about 15 minutes about the North Carolina flooding and why you may not have received a package and then after that it tells you " we are not open right now". :mad: I go online to report it. Takes about 15 minutes on the us postal service web site to find out a way to report a missing package. I put in the tracking number and it says,"The package did not have insurance on it so you cannot report this package." :mad::mad::mad::mad: What?!? I cannot even tell you that you delivered it to the wrong address?!? I wish the US postal service would go out of business. This never would've happened with UPS or Fedex. I reported it to Amazon but they didn't really understand either. They just said, "If you don't get it by October 1 then we'll send you another." I don't understand this at all. I used to think (in my youthful naivete) that the postal service had gravitas and packages and letters sent through it were something very important. Now the attitude is, "well, you are lucky if you received it. If you didn't then well, it happens. Sorry about your luck." :| EDIT - CLOSING THE LOOP I got home today after work and the package was in my mailbox. It seems to just be the way the process works. :| They mark the pkg as delivered, of course, even though it hasn't been delivered yet, it will be delivered in the future. X|
raddevus wrote:
that the postal service had gravitas and packages and letters sent through it were something very important.
No longer. That's what Facebook, Twitter, PInterest, etc. are now for. The really important stuff! :laugh:
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raddevus wrote:
I think the "it was placed on the porch" was just a lie of some sort. I don't understand it though
This way, the carrier doesn't get dinged on their review for not delivering packages on time.
I live in Oregon, and I'm an engineer.
I'va hsadthat happen to me, too. MY office window looks out on the porch, so I'm always aware of coming and going. so far Amazon has reshipped everything, so I got what I ordered and paid for. I hope they file complaints with the responsible idiots. Amazon has always done well. That reminds me of the joke when theyt went to 9 digit zip codes:that's enough for every man woman and child in the US to have thir own zip code, but that's easier than teaching their employees to read!! Most of my failed deliveries say it was shipped with UPS and arrived at a local transfer point and was then sent with USPS to be delivered and that's where it failed. Theey always say it was placed in the mailbox or on the p[orch, even when thast's impossible. It must be a builtin default in the tracking software! The scaery thing is I get job offers every day offering to pay ME to deliver Amazon packages. Now not even I wouls trust myself to do that!!
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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
It'll arrive today.
I think you are correct. I think the "it was placed on the porch" was just a lie of some sort.:~ I don't understand it though. :confused:
All my delivery messages have included a picture of the package, sitting at the door (although that just be FedEx, come to think about it)
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All my delivery messages have included a picture of the package, sitting at the door (although that just be FedEx, come to think about it)
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stoneyowl2 wrote:
picture of the package, sitting at the door
A picture of the package at the door? They don't do that for our packages. Sounds to me like someone's been having problems with being able to guarantee that the package was actually delivered like the database says it was.
I live in Oregon, and I'm an engineer.
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raddevus wrote:
It is completely Evil and part of the terrible bureaucracy that is created by the terrible mail system
I agree it's evil, but not part of the mail system. If you create a metric and incentivize people to meet it, you get behavior change. Just maybe not the one you wanted :) [Obligatory Dilbert[^]]
I live in Oregon, and I'm an engineer.
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raddevus wrote:
that the postal service had gravitas and packages and letters sent through it were something very important.
No longer. That's what Facebook, Twitter, PInterest, etc. are now for. The really important stuff! :laugh:
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I'va hsadthat happen to me, too. MY office window looks out on the porch, so I'm always aware of coming and going. so far Amazon has reshipped everything, so I got what I ordered and paid for. I hope they file complaints with the responsible idiots. Amazon has always done well. That reminds me of the joke when theyt went to 9 digit zip codes:that's enough for every man woman and child in the US to have thir own zip code, but that's easier than teaching their employees to read!! Most of my failed deliveries say it was shipped with UPS and arrived at a local transfer point and was then sent with USPS to be delivered and that's where it failed. Theey always say it was placed in the mailbox or on the p[orch, even when thast's impossible. It must be a builtin default in the tracking software! The scaery thing is I get job offers every day offering to pay ME to deliver Amazon packages. Now not even I wouls trust myself to do that!!
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Walt Fair, Jr. wrote:
always say it was placed in the mailbox or on the p[orch, even when thast's impossible. It must be a builtin default in the tracking software!
Yeah, it seems to be what it is. They just mark it as "delivered" even though it isn't delivered. It seems to be because they want to inform Amazon that it is delivered since it is a prime pkg that was supposed to be here then. Today, I got home and the package was in my mailbox. This is the craziest thing ever...to say the pkg is delivered but it is not. Completely and utterly ridiculous. :| Maybe restaurants should deliver your steak to you frozen and uncooked and tell you it is cooked. then you can come back the next day and it'll be actually cooked? :rolleyes:
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It'll arrive today.
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You were right. I got home today after work and the package was in my mailbox -- not on the porch of course.
Of course not.