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  • C Chris Maunder

    I often regret that we moved to TFS but saving that big $7 a month over GitHub was, strangely, enough to keep me there. I think I can pony up $7 a month not to be locked out of my own code. Which is such a ridiculous statement to have to make.

    cheers Chris Maunder

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    Last of the big spenders, you! :laugh: No, that's stupid - TFS is run by people who are supposed to be "Cloud aware", and who certainly should know exactly what you - and I, and all 13, 718, 609 other members - want, need, and expect of a source control system. And they can't keep it up*? Not a good reflection on Azure really, considering how they see TFS as a stepping stone to Azure DevOps. * Fnnr, fnnr - added to keep MM amused.

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    • C Chris Maunder

      I often regret that we moved to TFS but saving that big $7 a month over GitHub was, strangely, enough to keep me there. I think I can pony up $7 a month not to be locked out of my own code. Which is such a ridiculous statement to have to make.

      cheers Chris Maunder

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      PIEBALDconsult
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      Only seven dollars a month to get an occasional day off? Where do I sign up? (We're using TFS and not having trouble. --Yet-- We're being forced to move to a centralized enterprise TFS, then all heck will break out I'm sure.)

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        Last of the big spenders, you! :laugh: No, that's stupid - TFS is run by people who are supposed to be "Cloud aware", and who certainly should know exactly what you - and I, and all 13, 718, 609 other members - want, need, and expect of a source control system. And they can't keep it up*? Not a good reflection on Azure really, considering how they see TFS as a stepping stone to Azure DevOps. * Fnnr, fnnr - added to keep MM amused.

        Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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        Marc Clifton
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        OriginalGriff wrote:

        and all 13, 718, 609 other members - want, need, and expect of a source control system.

        Well, as 7.289368769093135e-8 of that, that's why I use GitHub. :-D

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        • C Chris Maunder

          I often regret that we moved to TFS but saving that big $7 a month over GitHub was, strangely, enough to keep me there. I think I can pony up $7 a month not to be locked out of my own code. Which is such a ridiculous statement to have to make.

          cheers Chris Maunder

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          How much are you actually saving? Are you paying for license to host your own server? Are you paying for Microsoft to provide you TFS? Either of those options seem like they would cost more than $7/mo (particularly licensing TFS, which [I just looked up](https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/team-services/tfs-pricing/), ranging between $45 to $250 / month, but you can never a straight answer from Microsoft on how much something costs, given the options listed just on that page.

          Latest Article - A Concise Overview of Threads Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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            OriginalGriff wrote:

            and all 13, 718, 609 other members - want, need, and expect of a source control system.

            Well, as 7.289368769093135e-8 of that, that's why I use GitHub. :-D

            Latest Article - A Concise Overview of Threads Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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            I too.

            Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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            • C Chris Maunder

              I often regret that we moved to TFS but saving that big $7 a month over GitHub was, strangely, enough to keep me there. I think I can pony up $7 a month not to be locked out of my own code. Which is such a ridiculous statement to have to make.

              cheers Chris Maunder

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              Matthew Dennis
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              And didn't Microsoft buy GitHub ??? :(

              "Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."

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                And didn't Microsoft buy GitHub ??? :(

                "Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."

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                Regrettably, yes ...

                Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  I often regret that we moved to TFS but saving that big $7 a month over GitHub was, strangely, enough to keep me there. I think I can pony up $7 a month not to be locked out of my own code. Which is such a ridiculous statement to have to make.

                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                  Chris Maunder wrote:

                  I think I can pony up $7 a month not to be locked out of my own code.

                  I've always called this situation "companies taking your data hostage" and this really makes it seem true. :laugh: Well, we may as well laugh, because if it isn't funny, it's quite bad. :sigh:

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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    How much are you actually saving? Are you paying for license to host your own server? Are you paying for Microsoft to provide you TFS? Either of those options seem like they would cost more than $7/mo (particularly licensing TFS, which [I just looked up](https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/team-services/tfs-pricing/), ranging between $45 to $250 / month, but you can never a straight answer from Microsoft on how much something costs, given the options listed just on that page.

                    Latest Article - A Concise Overview of Threads Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                    The fact that it was down for us for the second day in a row has already negated a years worth of ‘savings’

                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      I often regret that we moved to TFS but saving that big $7 a month over GitHub was, strangely, enough to keep me there. I think I can pony up $7 a month not to be locked out of my own code. Which is such a ridiculous statement to have to make.

                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                      I'm sure we work in vastly different ways. I've been able to use TFS's offline mode for a few days in the past, and when going back online, it just "did the right thing" on its own to reconsolidate everything it had detected had been changed since.

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        I often regret that we moved to TFS but saving that big $7 a month over GitHub was, strangely, enough to keep me there. I think I can pony up $7 a month not to be locked out of my own code. Which is such a ridiculous statement to have to make.

                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                        You can always have your own TFS server.

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          I often regret that we moved to TFS but saving that big $7 a month over GitHub was, strangely, enough to keep me there. I think I can pony up $7 a month not to be locked out of my own code. Which is such a ridiculous statement to have to make.

                          cheers Chris Maunder

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                          Ron Anders
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                          And y'all still dig the cloud huh. Ok.

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                          • C Chris Maunder

                            I often regret that we moved to TFS but saving that big $7 a month over GitHub was, strangely, enough to keep me there. I think I can pony up $7 a month not to be locked out of my own code. Which is such a ridiculous statement to have to make.

                            cheers Chris Maunder

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                            RickZeeland
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                            We use our own local Gitea GIT server now, but I still have fond memories of my Visual Sourcesafe days :-\

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                            • D dandy72

                              I'm sure we work in vastly different ways. I've been able to use TFS's offline mode for a few days in the past, and when going back online, it just "did the right thing" on its own to reconsolidate everything it had detected had been changed since.

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                              Chris Maunder
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                              The issue for us is Matthew and I are both make some extensive changes to the code in tandem and so we are constantly checking in and syncing our changes to ensure everything's dovetailing nicely. Something like this is a bit of a buzz kill because now our changes build up as commits and then when it comes back online the chances of conflicts (or worse: one of us going down the wrong path) is higher.

                              cheers Chris Maunder

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                                I'm sure we work in vastly different ways. I've been able to use TFS's offline mode for a few days in the past, and when going back online, it just "did the right thing" on its own to reconsolidate everything it had detected had been changed since.

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                                Dan Neely
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                                I think the real issue is being centralized. If Bitbucket ever went down for a few days, my coworkers and I could push back and forth to each others repos to keep in sync with each other as needed. (Or someone who enjoys the ops part of devops, could set up a temporary shared remote for us all to work off of until things got fixed.)

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                                • C Chris Maunder

                                  I often regret that we moved to TFS but saving that big $7 a month over GitHub was, strangely, enough to keep me there. I think I can pony up $7 a month not to be locked out of my own code. Which is such a ridiculous statement to have to make.

                                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                                  Odd that there's no mention of it on their Twitter feed, but the blog suggests[^] it's all better as of 19:46 UTC. :)


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                                  • C Chris Maunder

                                    The fact that it was down for us for the second day in a row has already negated a years worth of ‘savings’

                                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                                    Did you get the "no privilege" error?  If so, did a simple re-connect fix the issue?  I experienced a couple of hiccups yesterday, but nothing that prevented me from continuing to work. /ravi

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                                      Did you get the "no privilege" error?  If so, did a simple re-connect fix the issue?  I experienced a couple of hiccups yesterday, but nothing that prevented me from continuing to work. /ravi

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                                      Chris Maunder
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                                      It was the full "Service is down" page.

                                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                                      • C Chris Maunder

                                        I often regret that we moved to TFS but saving that big $7 a month over GitHub was, strangely, enough to keep me there. I think I can pony up $7 a month not to be locked out of my own code. Which is such a ridiculous statement to have to make.

                                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                                        Strange. I have never faced any down-time with TFS after these many years use. Been an user of it, ever since TFS-online was released. Or it could be just a coincidence. That they go down at middle of the night and patch up & get going before we wake up. :)

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                                        • M Matthew Dennis

                                          And didn't Microsoft buy GitHub ??? :(

                                          "Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."

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                                          Jorgen Andersson
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                                          So, stop relying on centralized services. Git works decentralized. We're using Mercurial at my job, it's filebased, if you want it centralized you just put a repo on the fileserver and access it via VPN if needed. But you don't even need a server, just start the builtin webserver. Or in worst case, put the repo on a memorystick and pass it around. Not that I recommend it, mind you.:~

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