Linux Weekend - After Action Report
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It was a struggle, but I got my two OpenMediaVault machines stood up and initially configured. One is a media server and has six analog hard drives for a total of 11.5 terabytes. The second box is for network-wide backups and has four analog hard drives for a total of four terabytes. Before installing OMV, I had to take all my NTFS media drives, copy them to a temp drive, re-partition/format the media drive, and copy the media files back to the newly partitioned drive. This took THREE DAYS (probably because the temp drive was a USB drive). The OMV struggles involved the motherboard BIOS settings. I fought those issues all day yesterday. Any distro I installed would boot fine, but OMV kept saying that all the drives failed the soft reset. I must have rebooted the machines 100 times in the process of getting it resolved. I think I figured out what to do with my extra RaspBerry Pi - using it as a network monitor. I haven't decided what software to use yet, but right now, Pandora FMS[^] is looking pretty good (they even have a Pi image). Tonight, I'll be configuring my HTPC box to get files from the OMV media server. I also started writing a Linux migration article for like-minded individuals. It includes everything from minimal hardware specs to dealing with configuring OMV, and handy command line items so you don't have to go googling it like I had to.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
It was a struggle, but I got my two OpenMediaVault machines stood up and initially configured. One is a media server and has six analog hard drives for a total of 11.5 terabytes. The second box is for network-wide backups and has four analog hard drives for a total of four terabytes. Before installing OMV, I had to take all my NTFS media drives, copy them to a temp drive, re-partition/format the media drive, and copy the media files back to the newly partitioned drive. This took THREE DAYS (probably because the temp drive was a USB drive). The OMV struggles involved the motherboard BIOS settings. I fought those issues all day yesterday. Any distro I installed would boot fine, but OMV kept saying that all the drives failed the soft reset. I must have rebooted the machines 100 times in the process of getting it resolved. I think I figured out what to do with my extra RaspBerry Pi - using it as a network monitor. I haven't decided what software to use yet, but right now, Pandora FMS[^] is looking pretty good (they even have a Pi image). Tonight, I'll be configuring my HTPC box to get files from the OMV media server. I also started writing a Linux migration article for like-minded individuals. It includes everything from minimal hardware specs to dealing with configuring OMV, and handy command line items so you don't have to go googling it like I had to.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
11.5 terabytes
That's ... a lot !
Wait till I start replacing the 2tb drives with 4tb drives. :)
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
It was a struggle, but I got my two OpenMediaVault machines stood up and initially configured. One is a media server and has six analog hard drives for a total of 11.5 terabytes. The second box is for network-wide backups and has four analog hard drives for a total of four terabytes. Before installing OMV, I had to take all my NTFS media drives, copy them to a temp drive, re-partition/format the media drive, and copy the media files back to the newly partitioned drive. This took THREE DAYS (probably because the temp drive was a USB drive). The OMV struggles involved the motherboard BIOS settings. I fought those issues all day yesterday. Any distro I installed would boot fine, but OMV kept saying that all the drives failed the soft reset. I must have rebooted the machines 100 times in the process of getting it resolved. I think I figured out what to do with my extra RaspBerry Pi - using it as a network monitor. I haven't decided what software to use yet, but right now, Pandora FMS[^] is looking pretty good (they even have a Pi image). Tonight, I'll be configuring my HTPC box to get files from the OMV media server. I also started writing a Linux migration article for like-minded individuals. It includes everything from minimal hardware specs to dealing with configuring OMV, and handy command line items so you don't have to go googling it like I had to.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013This is what it says on the openmediavault website:
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It is a simple and easy to use out-of-the-box solution that will allow everyone to install and administrate a Network Attached Storage without deeper knowledge.
:laugh:
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This is what it says on the openmediavault website:
Quote:
It is a simple and easy to use out-of-the-box solution that will allow everyone to install and administrate a Network Attached Storage without deeper knowledge.
:laugh:
Yeah... right. It's not easy, nor intuitive. I found out how to "make it go" simply by chance. None of the media drives were mounted by default. This seems kinda bizarre to me, given that it's a NAS setup. They refer to drives/partitions as "devices", but don't really mention that anywhere (that I found). Until the partitions are mounted, you can't create shares, which makes sense, but as I said before, they don't mention that partitions are called "devices" in their app, and you must select a "device" to share. At this point, I have shares setup, but I don't yet know if it's enough, at least not until I try to get Kodi setup. I am on an adventure of discovery, and so far, resisting the urge to go back to windows. On a semi-related note, I still haven't GOTTEN wireless working on the older Acer laptops. I think I'm just gonna give up and get a USB wireless dongle and call it a day. I have to research the various dongle offerings and pick the one that presents the fewest problems in Linux. In the process of trying to get that working, I installed Linux Mint Cinnamon on the Laptops. I think I prefer that distro over Ubuntu because it's more Windows-like (and I suspect SWMBO will be happy about that).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
It was a struggle, but I got my two OpenMediaVault machines stood up and initially configured. One is a media server and has six analog hard drives for a total of 11.5 terabytes. The second box is for network-wide backups and has four analog hard drives for a total of four terabytes. Before installing OMV, I had to take all my NTFS media drives, copy them to a temp drive, re-partition/format the media drive, and copy the media files back to the newly partitioned drive. This took THREE DAYS (probably because the temp drive was a USB drive). The OMV struggles involved the motherboard BIOS settings. I fought those issues all day yesterday. Any distro I installed would boot fine, but OMV kept saying that all the drives failed the soft reset. I must have rebooted the machines 100 times in the process of getting it resolved. I think I figured out what to do with my extra RaspBerry Pi - using it as a network monitor. I haven't decided what software to use yet, but right now, Pandora FMS[^] is looking pretty good (they even have a Pi image). Tonight, I'll be configuring my HTPC box to get files from the OMV media server. I also started writing a Linux migration article for like-minded individuals. It includes everything from minimal hardware specs to dealing with configuring OMV, and handy command line items so you don't have to go googling it like I had to.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I also started writing a Linux migration article for like-minded individuals. It includes everything from minimal hardware specs to dealing with configuring OMV, and handy command line items so you don't have to go googling it like I had to.
Look forward to reading it.
I may not be that good looking, or athletic, or funny, or talented, or smart I forgot where I was going with this but I do know I love bacon!
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Wait till I start replacing the 2tb drives with 4tb drives. :)
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013I've switched to using 8TB drives for my backups. The existing 2TB and 5TB drives are now the "live" drives holding my collections. I have a catalog search program I wrote myself that allows searching selection and playing of any of the live media in most rooms in my house (I have a power-line network that goes everywhere). I now have 40TB of live disks and 40TB of backup disks.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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It was a struggle, but I got my two OpenMediaVault machines stood up and initially configured. One is a media server and has six analog hard drives for a total of 11.5 terabytes. The second box is for network-wide backups and has four analog hard drives for a total of four terabytes. Before installing OMV, I had to take all my NTFS media drives, copy them to a temp drive, re-partition/format the media drive, and copy the media files back to the newly partitioned drive. This took THREE DAYS (probably because the temp drive was a USB drive). The OMV struggles involved the motherboard BIOS settings. I fought those issues all day yesterday. Any distro I installed would boot fine, but OMV kept saying that all the drives failed the soft reset. I must have rebooted the machines 100 times in the process of getting it resolved. I think I figured out what to do with my extra RaspBerry Pi - using it as a network monitor. I haven't decided what software to use yet, but right now, Pandora FMS[^] is looking pretty good (they even have a Pi image). Tonight, I'll be configuring my HTPC box to get files from the OMV media server. I also started writing a Linux migration article for like-minded individuals. It includes everything from minimal hardware specs to dealing with configuring OMV, and handy command line items so you don't have to go googling it like I had to.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Yeah... right. It's not easy, nor intuitive. I found out how to "make it go" simply by chance. None of the media drives were mounted by default. This seems kinda bizarre to me, given that it's a NAS setup. They refer to drives/partitions as "devices", but don't really mention that anywhere (that I found). Until the partitions are mounted, you can't create shares, which makes sense, but as I said before, they don't mention that partitions are called "devices" in their app, and you must select a "device" to share. At this point, I have shares setup, but I don't yet know if it's enough, at least not until I try to get Kodi setup. I am on an adventure of discovery, and so far, resisting the urge to go back to windows. On a semi-related note, I still haven't GOTTEN wireless working on the older Acer laptops. I think I'm just gonna give up and get a USB wireless dongle and call it a day. I have to research the various dongle offerings and pick the one that presents the fewest problems in Linux. In the process of trying to get that working, I installed Linux Mint Cinnamon on the Laptops. I think I prefer that distro over Ubuntu because it's more Windows-like (and I suspect SWMBO will be happy about that).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Luckily those USB dongles, e.g. from TPlink, cost next to nothing ;)
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It was a struggle, but I got my two OpenMediaVault machines stood up and initially configured. One is a media server and has six analog hard drives for a total of 11.5 terabytes. The second box is for network-wide backups and has four analog hard drives for a total of four terabytes. Before installing OMV, I had to take all my NTFS media drives, copy them to a temp drive, re-partition/format the media drive, and copy the media files back to the newly partitioned drive. This took THREE DAYS (probably because the temp drive was a USB drive). The OMV struggles involved the motherboard BIOS settings. I fought those issues all day yesterday. Any distro I installed would boot fine, but OMV kept saying that all the drives failed the soft reset. I must have rebooted the machines 100 times in the process of getting it resolved. I think I figured out what to do with my extra RaspBerry Pi - using it as a network monitor. I haven't decided what software to use yet, but right now, Pandora FMS[^] is looking pretty good (they even have a Pi image). Tonight, I'll be configuring my HTPC box to get files from the OMV media server. I also started writing a Linux migration article for like-minded individuals. It includes everything from minimal hardware specs to dealing with configuring OMV, and handy command line items so you don't have to go googling it like I had to.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
I've switched to using 8TB drives for my backups. The existing 2TB and 5TB drives are now the "live" drives holding my collections. I have a catalog search program I wrote myself that allows searching selection and playing of any of the live media in most rooms in my house (I have a power-line network that goes everywhere). I now have 40TB of live disks and 40TB of backup disks.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
Forogar wrote:
I now have 40TB of live disks and 40TB of backup disks.
Holy crap on a cracker!
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
I have an Odroid HC2 running OMV, with a 10Tb Seagate HDD. For 10Tb, compact, power efficient and fast network storage. I will admit not very data safe, but everything is backed up to off-line hard-drives anyway.
I have too many drives to use a SBC for OMV. I wouldn't think a SBC would have enough oomph to support the requirements (certainly not a Pi anyway - 1gb RAM and USB 2.0 are not enough), but I've seen people saying they're doing it, so what do I know? I'm booting my Pis from usb, and I've read that things get weird when you have multiple USB storage devices when you're booting from USB. No personal experience, just heard stuff.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
I have too many drives to use a SBC for OMV. I wouldn't think a SBC would have enough oomph to support the requirements (certainly not a Pi anyway - 1gb RAM and USB 2.0 are not enough), but I've seen people saying they're doing it, so what do I know? I'm booting my Pis from usb, and I've read that things get weird when you have multiple USB storage devices when you're booting from USB. No personal experience, just heard stuff.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
The HC2 is based on the Odroid XU4, its basically a Rpi with extra everything. Gigabit Ethernet and USB 3 make it a great choice for OMV
It still doesn't have enough ports for the number of drives I have, and USB3 still doesn't match up to a direct SATA connection. I think Pis are severely lacking in hardware, but they want to keep the price low. I personally think that's false economy. They need to up their hardware game.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Yeah... right. It's not easy, nor intuitive. I found out how to "make it go" simply by chance. None of the media drives were mounted by default. This seems kinda bizarre to me, given that it's a NAS setup. They refer to drives/partitions as "devices", but don't really mention that anywhere (that I found). Until the partitions are mounted, you can't create shares, which makes sense, but as I said before, they don't mention that partitions are called "devices" in their app, and you must select a "device" to share. At this point, I have shares setup, but I don't yet know if it's enough, at least not until I try to get Kodi setup. I am on an adventure of discovery, and so far, resisting the urge to go back to windows. On a semi-related note, I still haven't GOTTEN wireless working on the older Acer laptops. I think I'm just gonna give up and get a USB wireless dongle and call it a day. I have to research the various dongle offerings and pick the one that presents the fewest problems in Linux. In the process of trying to get that working, I installed Linux Mint Cinnamon on the Laptops. I think I prefer that distro over Ubuntu because it's more Windows-like (and I suspect SWMBO will be happy about that).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Sorry if you've already mentioned this somewhere, but have you tried using Ndiswrapper to use Windows drivers for the wireless networking on your Acer laptops? I t's been a while since I've used ndiswraper, but it helped me out a couple of times in the past when I had a laptop with an obscure wireless card that didn't normally work under Linux, but that had a Windows driver available.
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Sorry if you've already mentioned this somewhere, but have you tried using Ndiswrapper to use Windows drivers for the wireless networking on your Acer laptops? I t's been a while since I've used ndiswraper, but it helped me out a couple of times in the past when I had a laptop with an obscure wireless card that didn't normally work under Linux, but that had a Windows driver available.
It ain't that important to me. Besides, if I decide to change distros in the future, i'd probably have to do the ndiswrapper thing all over again, and I would prefer that all of this be really low impact. I'm essentially the laziest redneck you'll ever meet with regards to this kinda thing.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
It ain't that important to me. Besides, if I decide to change distros in the future, i'd probably have to do the ndiswrapper thing all over again, and I would prefer that all of this be really low impact. I'm essentially the laziest redneck you'll ever meet with regards to this kinda thing.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Fair enough! The ndiswrapper stuff is definitely a pain to have to re-do. I've had good luck with this wifi adapter under Linux: https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-TL-WN725N-Wireless-Adapter-Miniature/dp/B008IFXQFU[^ It's small enough that it barely even sticks out of the USB port. Range isn't quite as good as one that's bigger with a larger antenna, but for use around the house it's been more than good enough.
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It still doesn't have enough ports for the number of drives I have, and USB3 still doesn't match up to a direct SATA connection. I think Pis are severely lacking in hardware, but they want to keep the price low. I personally think that's false economy. They need to up their hardware game.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013the new generation of boards has independent pcie data output path (from the network or USB one) that can be adapted to a sata port. Of course they may not be able to handle multi large disks well or at all ...
Find more in V-NET: connects your resources anywhere[^].
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It was a struggle, but I got my two OpenMediaVault machines stood up and initially configured. One is a media server and has six analog hard drives for a total of 11.5 terabytes. The second box is for network-wide backups and has four analog hard drives for a total of four terabytes. Before installing OMV, I had to take all my NTFS media drives, copy them to a temp drive, re-partition/format the media drive, and copy the media files back to the newly partitioned drive. This took THREE DAYS (probably because the temp drive was a USB drive). The OMV struggles involved the motherboard BIOS settings. I fought those issues all day yesterday. Any distro I installed would boot fine, but OMV kept saying that all the drives failed the soft reset. I must have rebooted the machines 100 times in the process of getting it resolved. I think I figured out what to do with my extra RaspBerry Pi - using it as a network monitor. I haven't decided what software to use yet, but right now, Pandora FMS[^] is looking pretty good (they even have a Pi image). Tonight, I'll be configuring my HTPC box to get files from the OMV media server. I also started writing a Linux migration article for like-minded individuals. It includes everything from minimal hardware specs to dealing with configuring OMV, and handy command line items so you don't have to go googling it like I had to.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013So...what does OMV give you that Samba does not, anyway? That Pandora dealie looks more like a NOC syslog-type tool (like Solarwinds Orion) than a network security monitor. If you're looking for traffic monitoring, you should take a look at [Security Onion](https://securityonion.net/) or [ROCK NSM](https://rocknsm.io).
"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor
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So...what does OMV give you that Samba does not, anyway? That Pandora dealie looks more like a NOC syslog-type tool (like Solarwinds Orion) than a network security monitor. If you're looking for traffic monitoring, you should take a look at [Security Onion](https://securityonion.net/) or [ROCK NSM](https://rocknsm.io).
"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor
OMV is more than just a samba sharing mechanism. I just wanted to put my spare Pi to work, and I figured network monitoring would be cool. I have no real need for it.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
