You've been demoted!
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Then you are very brave. Look what some primates are capable of doing despite a few million years of evolution. That's nothing compared to the crazy things some AI might be capable of doing without that small advantage.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
But breaking a computer is much more safe than breaking the head of a primate...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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But breaking a computer is much more safe than breaking the head of a primate...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
As long as you really break the computer and leave the monitor alone. Why does everyone whack the monitor when they don't like what the computer is up to?
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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But breaking a computer is much more safe than breaking the head of a primate...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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Was some thoughts to AI doing development, according to Gartner it's going to be "AI Driven Development" Guess that means the humans do the work, and AI will be the boss.
Hahahahaa :D The Perils Of Trade With Machine Learning: "One Pin Drop Can Make You Lose 20 Years Of Returns" | Zero Hedge[^]
machines programmed to find a pattern within the noise of the market will always do so... even when there is no actual pattern at all.
With the Google AI still translating Turkey (the meat) to Turkey (the country), I am not expecting to see an AI in the workplace very soon.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Hahahahaa :D The Perils Of Trade With Machine Learning: "One Pin Drop Can Make You Lose 20 Years Of Returns" | Zero Hedge[^]
machines programmed to find a pattern within the noise of the market will always do so... even when there is no actual pattern at all.
With the Google AI still translating Turkey (the meat) to Turkey (the country), I am not expecting to see an AI in the workplace very soon.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
machines programmed to find a pattern within the noise of the market will always do so... even when there is no actual pattern at all.
. . . and amongst us meat-bags, we have conspiracy theories and those that embrace them.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
machines programmed to find a pattern within the noise of the market will always do so... even when there is no actual pattern at all.
. . . and amongst us meat-bags, we have conspiracy theories and those that embrace them.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
W∴ Balboos wrote:
. . . and amongst us meat-bags, we have conspiracy theories and those that embrace them.
I do not see the link with conspiracies? Thing is; while AI's may be used to make weather-predictions more accurate, they lack this thing called common sense. It has no way of verifying its conclusions, and stands and falls with correct assumptions on the data.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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W∴ Balboos wrote:
. . . and amongst us meat-bags, we have conspiracy theories and those that embrace them.
I do not see the link with conspiracies? Thing is; while AI's may be used to make weather-predictions more accurate, they lack this thing called common sense. It has no way of verifying its conclusions, and stands and falls with correct assumptions on the data.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
If you look for a pattern you'll find one (I thought that association would be clearer as you did post that concept in a large font).
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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If you look for a pattern you'll find one (I thought that association would be clearer as you did post that concept in a large font).
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Let me illustrate: The anti-vaccination movement. As is usual for such things, they cannot differentiate between the "The Three C's": Coincidence, Correlation, and Cause and Effect. So a claim is made that vaccinations cause autism (E Pluribus Unum) An increase in autism is cited. The children (most likely) had been vaccinated. Correlation! The fact that (1) Autism is now the autism spectrum and they encompass not only true victims of the malady but anyone who'll pay a shrink to diagnose their code with some version (and thus get gov't aid). So, broadening the diagnosis realm caused an "increase". The fact that study after study finds their beliefs wrong . . . and they will just blame it on a conspiracy between the "Big Pharma" and government. And go on finding evidence to prove it. And ignoring anything that disproves it. In polite terms, it's termed as "cherry picking data". There are always those who want to believe. Basically, a method to blame someone else for your woes.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Let me illustrate: The anti-vaccination movement. As is usual for such things, they cannot differentiate between the "The Three C's": Coincidence, Correlation, and Cause and Effect. So a claim is made that vaccinations cause autism (E Pluribus Unum) An increase in autism is cited. The children (most likely) had been vaccinated. Correlation! The fact that (1) Autism is now the autism spectrum and they encompass not only true victims of the malady but anyone who'll pay a shrink to diagnose their code with some version (and thus get gov't aid). So, broadening the diagnosis realm caused an "increase". The fact that study after study finds their beliefs wrong . . . and they will just blame it on a conspiracy between the "Big Pharma" and government. And go on finding evidence to prove it. And ignoring anything that disproves it. In polite terms, it's termed as "cherry picking data". There are always those who want to believe. Basically, a method to blame someone else for your woes.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
W∴ Balboos wrote:
The fact that study after study finds their beliefs wrong . . . and they will just blame it on a conspiracy between the "Big Pharma" and government. And go on finding evidence to prove it. And ignoring anything that disproves it.
There will always be people who prefer to (religiously) "believe" something, over verifying. Some people here don't get their flu-shot because "you can still get the flu". While technically true, it is a very unhelpfull argument. It also may not help that the Netherlands ordered 5 million flu-vaccines for an avian flu pandemic that never happened. Both government and big pharma are doing their utter best to keep their image up.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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W∴ Balboos wrote:
The fact that study after study finds their beliefs wrong . . . and they will just blame it on a conspiracy between the "Big Pharma" and government. And go on finding evidence to prove it. And ignoring anything that disproves it.
There will always be people who prefer to (religiously) "believe" something, over verifying. Some people here don't get their flu-shot because "you can still get the flu". While technically true, it is a very unhelpfull argument. It also may not help that the Netherlands ordered 5 million flu-vaccines for an avian flu pandemic that never happened. Both government and big pharma are doing their utter best to keep their image up.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
A deviation in the subject - the Flu Vaccine. A difference between it and those I intended to address: the Flu vaccine is a transient hit-or-miss effort. Anywhere from 15% effective (last year) to 80%. Actually, they target, implicitly, 50%; it's a moving target and the vaccine needs to be prepared in advance, so it's guesswork to some extent - hopefully educated guesses. Those I mean to address are such as tetanus, polio, smallpox, diphtheria &etc., which provide very long term and even lifetime immunity, and do so with very predictable extremely high reliability. Those rejecting these are relying on herd-immunity, which will eventually fail if they become successful in their boycott vaccination campaigns. They just don't realize how bad things were before vaccinations. Darwin Awards, anyone? For a flu shot - you're taking your chances - but will (almost) certainly recover. And, indeed, there are "conspiracies" with some vaccines - there was an attempt to force the very costly HPV vaccine on the public (in US) - which fortunately didn't succeed. There is certainly a driving force for lobbying politicians to get your latest development into the (very) profitable category. If Ebola broke out in US, I'd be in the front of the line for immunization.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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A deviation in the subject - the Flu Vaccine. A difference between it and those I intended to address: the Flu vaccine is a transient hit-or-miss effort. Anywhere from 15% effective (last year) to 80%. Actually, they target, implicitly, 50%; it's a moving target and the vaccine needs to be prepared in advance, so it's guesswork to some extent - hopefully educated guesses. Those I mean to address are such as tetanus, polio, smallpox, diphtheria &etc., which provide very long term and even lifetime immunity, and do so with very predictable extremely high reliability. Those rejecting these are relying on herd-immunity, which will eventually fail if they become successful in their boycott vaccination campaigns. They just don't realize how bad things were before vaccinations. Darwin Awards, anyone? For a flu shot - you're taking your chances - but will (almost) certainly recover. And, indeed, there are "conspiracies" with some vaccines - there was an attempt to force the very costly HPV vaccine on the public (in US) - which fortunately didn't succeed. There is certainly a driving force for lobbying politicians to get your latest development into the (very) profitable category. If Ebola broke out in US, I'd be in the front of the line for immunization.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
W∴ Balboos wrote:
Those I mean to address are such as tetanus, polio, smallpox, diphtheria &etc., which provide very long term and even lifetime immunity, and do so with very predictable extremely high reliability. Those rejecting these are relying on herd-immunity, which will eventually fail if they become successful in their boycott vaccination campaigns. They just don't realize how bad things were before vaccinations. Darwin Awards, anyone?
The health of the group should be of more concern than the individual freedom to choose.
W∴ Balboos wrote:
And, indeed, there are "conspiracies" with some vaccines
Yes, but one rotten apple doesn't mean the entire industry is like that.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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W∴ Balboos wrote:
Those I mean to address are such as tetanus, polio, smallpox, diphtheria &etc., which provide very long term and even lifetime immunity, and do so with very predictable extremely high reliability. Those rejecting these are relying on herd-immunity, which will eventually fail if they become successful in their boycott vaccination campaigns. They just don't realize how bad things were before vaccinations. Darwin Awards, anyone?
The health of the group should be of more concern than the individual freedom to choose.
W∴ Balboos wrote:
And, indeed, there are "conspiracies" with some vaccines
Yes, but one rotten apple doesn't mean the entire industry is like that.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Yes, but one rotten apple doesn't mean the entire industry is like that.
Well, we're sort of in agreement on this. I don't give the industry a break - but the vaccine concept, yes. The expression is often "Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.".
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
The health of the group should be of more concern than the individual freedom to choose.
Logically, I agree. The problem, as always, is implementation. Near-first-person anecdote: Mrs. Wife teaches. One of the districts mandates flu shot or where face mask. This was true for several years. They did supply the flu shot, at least. This year, she told me she got her flu shot - and also the mandatory requirement is gone. Public schools in the USA, depending upon your state, require any number of the basic immunization (the serious diseases, mentioned early, and usually measles, chickenpox (rubella), and some others). This has proven an incredible health benefit. The herd has few carriers. The flu, because of the forced "crowds" of a school, makes sense . . . except it was only the teachers! So - the health of the group concept is good for the serious killing/crippling pathogens. For the lesser evils, such as the flu, it should be a matter of choice. The only others at risk, after all, are others without the vaccination. An argument can be made for "so what's the difference", and I will preemptively answer it's a personnel gut feeling about risk/reward
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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AI, not AU, otherwise you will soon be bragging of having made the Kessel Run in less than 2475180 AU (= 12 parsec).
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
CodeWraith wrote:
having made the Kessel Run in less than 2475180 AU (= 12 parsec)
Having survived a screening of the Solo movie without serious mental damage, I can attest that they found a interesting way to explain that line from the original. SPOILERS BELOW Kessel is a planet inside a large magnetic storm and there is only one mapped route to make it through without serious risk called the Kessel Run. The length of the route varied over time but it was much longer than 12 parsecs. In the movie, Han had to pilot the Falcon off of the route and through the storm; emerging after only traveling ~12 parsecs. It was one of the better parts of the movie, IMHO, and became the source of the bragging rights.
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); }
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Yes, but one rotten apple doesn't mean the entire industry is like that.
Well, we're sort of in agreement on this. I don't give the industry a break - but the vaccine concept, yes. The expression is often "Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.".
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
The health of the group should be of more concern than the individual freedom to choose.
Logically, I agree. The problem, as always, is implementation. Near-first-person anecdote: Mrs. Wife teaches. One of the districts mandates flu shot or where face mask. This was true for several years. They did supply the flu shot, at least. This year, she told me she got her flu shot - and also the mandatory requirement is gone. Public schools in the USA, depending upon your state, require any number of the basic immunization (the serious diseases, mentioned early, and usually measles, chickenpox (rubella), and some others). This has proven an incredible health benefit. The herd has few carriers. The flu, because of the forced "crowds" of a school, makes sense . . . except it was only the teachers! So - the health of the group concept is good for the serious killing/crippling pathogens. For the lesser evils, such as the flu, it should be a matter of choice. The only others at risk, after all, are others without the vaccination. An argument can be made for "so what's the difference", and I will preemptively answer it's a personnel gut feeling about risk/reward
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
W∴ Balboos wrote:
the health of the group concept is good for the serious killing/crippling pathogens. For the lesser evils, such as the flu, it should be a matter of choice.
:thumbsup:
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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As long as you really break the computer and leave the monitor alone. Why does everyone whack the monitor when they don't like what the computer is up to?
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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So artificial intelligence is really better than natural stupidity?
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
I think it's a misnomer. Should be Artificial Stupidity. We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
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Was some thoughts to AI doing development, according to Gartner it's going to be "AI Driven Development" Guess that means the humans do the work, and AI will be the boss.
Many, many years ago, when I was doing my first internship in a big company, we got a new manager who in the first meeting told us that "in the next couple of years CASE (Computer-aided software engineering) tools will make software developers redundant and that we should focus in other aspect of IT if we wanted to stay in the field. users will be able to model their requirements and the tools will write the software for then.". Even though I was 20, I was smart enough to understand how stupid this guy was, that CASE tools were a fad and started searching for a new job that same day. Within 2 months I was out of there. 24 years later, me and several millions around the world still have a decent paying job developing software. Thinking that, in the near future, AI "something" will be able to replace humans in such a complex stuff as developing software fall withing the same realm of stupidity IMHO.
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Was some thoughts to AI doing development, according to Gartner it's going to be "AI Driven Development" Guess that means the humans do the work, and AI will be the boss.
Right, so AI will replace software engineers and developers!?!? And exactly who is going to tell this brilliant AI what to develop? Brilliant technical management who can't even figure out how do to a time estimate properly? Oh I forgot... The AI will have results immediately so no need to tell it anything...
Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
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If AI will take over management it may be an improvement... :)
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
This makes me want to use current chat bot tech to handle most of my interruptions as a developer. Slack might already have a plug in for this. sales: "Do you have a minute?" Bot as Me: "Don't know, what is it you need?" sales: actual request that could have been asked first time. Bot: "Did you ask support yet?" sales: "yes, they said to ask you." auto - check if support ticket raised. if not raise one. auto - check my heart rate for measure of intensity in work. Bot: "I will be with you in 10 minutes." sales: no response because. 9 min later auto : notification on computer of just the important details. 1 min more: Me: check email from support that they fixed issue. Me: forward support email to sales person. Me: back to day job.
