Win10 Fluent Design: All the cool kids
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While we are having a rant... I very much dislike sites that require you to sign-up before you can even read the article! It sounded interesting too, oh well...
musefan wrote:
very much dislike sites that require you to sign-up before you can even read the article!
Oh, yeah, computerworld can be like that. Here's what I do. Create an account using mailinator.com. Just type in any name and any @mailinator.com Then you are signed up. And you can see any email they might send you at @mailinator.com. It's a public inbox.
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Reading this article (Introducing Fluent, Windows 10’s modern UI approach | InfoWorld[^]) I came upon this sentence.
article said:
One of Fluent’s nicer features is the Reveal tool that illuminates the borders around an object, showing quickly which screen elements allow interaction, lighting up as you mouse over or tab into an active field
That sentence seems completely out of place because it says "as you mouse over or tab" but those functions are completely gone when a person is using a pad/phone (touch device). But, Fluent Design has been driven by the fact that Microsoft is running toward pad/phone (touch devices) even though Microsoft doesn't have a phone and barely has a pad device. :confused: Microsoft Wants To Be The Cool Kid Too It's honestly as if Microsoft is just trying to be like the cool kids even though everyone knows they're not. Hey, Microsoft, just be Microsoft, ok? :rolleyes: And to further my rant, here's what microsoft says about their new design:
Microsoft docs*:
UWP helps by automatically adjusting UI elements so that they're legible and easy to interact with on all devices and screen sizes.
But that really isn't true. Things are too big on a desktop and take up too much space. Everything is targeted toward smaller touch devices. *Introduction to Universal Windows Platform (UWP) app design (Windows apps) - UWP app developer | Microsoft Docs[^] ** More info on Reveal : Reveal Focus - UWP app developer | Microsoft Docs[^]
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Infoworthless is certainly developing an inflated view of its contents value. They're pretty close to the last site whose advertiscum I'd help by giving any information to.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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Lopatir wrote:
ms will get the design right, and soon after [mastadon] it up again. w10 itself is just one current example.
:thumbsup: Production releases are for testing, of course. :rolleyes:
Sounds exactly correct...for reference, see: New Windows 10 1809 bug: Zip data-loss flaw is months old but Microsoft missed it | ZDNet[^] This, after they fixed the previous bug in that update that simply deleted user files. Oh well, updates seem to be MS's kryptonite :)
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To continue reading this article register now
Infoworthless is certainly developing an inflated view of its contents value. They're pretty close to the last site whose advertiscum I'd help by giving any information to.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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Reading this article (Introducing Fluent, Windows 10’s modern UI approach | InfoWorld[^]) I came upon this sentence.
article said:
One of Fluent’s nicer features is the Reveal tool that illuminates the borders around an object, showing quickly which screen elements allow interaction, lighting up as you mouse over or tab into an active field
That sentence seems completely out of place because it says "as you mouse over or tab" but those functions are completely gone when a person is using a pad/phone (touch device). But, Fluent Design has been driven by the fact that Microsoft is running toward pad/phone (touch devices) even though Microsoft doesn't have a phone and barely has a pad device. :confused: Microsoft Wants To Be The Cool Kid Too It's honestly as if Microsoft is just trying to be like the cool kids even though everyone knows they're not. Hey, Microsoft, just be Microsoft, ok? :rolleyes: And to further my rant, here's what microsoft says about their new design:
Microsoft docs*:
UWP helps by automatically adjusting UI elements so that they're legible and easy to interact with on all devices and screen sizes.
But that really isn't true. Things are too big on a desktop and take up too much space. Everything is targeted toward smaller touch devices. *Introduction to Universal Windows Platform (UWP) app design (Windows apps) - UWP app developer | Microsoft Docs[^] ** More info on Reveal : Reveal Focus - UWP app developer | Microsoft Docs[^]
:elephant:ing up interfaces is the latest and greatest trend. Hulu++: (for streaming) sucks so hard it hurts - I'd cut my subscription now if it were not for Mrs WIfe's need for a few shows I've not yet otherwise sourced. It wants to make my TV into a cellphone and shoves "trending" in my face. I don't care what's trending. If I did, I'd find the link and click it. Meanwhile, they no longer seem to keep up-to-date with TV series, which was the reason I selected them to begin with. Huge numbers of subscribers have complained and all they receive are empty platitudes.* Ubuntu: I loaded 16.04 on my Intel Nuc (it was the Intel Certified version). It, too, seems to be trending more and more into a cell-phone look-and-feel. I'm not using it on an :elephant:ing cell phone.
Maybe all of this is just some insane race of everyone trying to be like MicroSloth and MicroSloth trying to commit suicide. The age of digital lemmings?
Windows: What could I say that hasn't been said. * I have a device that still has the older version - this crappy performance and brainless interface is no illusion. [edit]change "turn PC into laptop to what I meant: TV into cellphone[/edit]
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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musefan wrote:
very much dislike sites that require you to sign-up before you can even read the article!
Oh, yeah, computerworld can be like that. Here's what I do. Create an account using mailinator.com. Just type in any name and any @mailinator.com Then you are signed up. And you can see any email they might send you at @mailinator.com. It's a public inbox.
I have heard of this before but never really bothered to look into it. However, you explanation has convinced me to explore it further :thumbsup: I suppose it would be too much to expect the service will automatically respond to any "click here to confirm email" links? That would be awesome. Although, if it becomes too popular, sites will just block mailinator domains I guess. EDIT: Looks like that site already blocks mailinator.com
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Sorry about that...See this (The Lounge - using mailinator.com (public inbox)[^]) for a workaround. It's what I did and I forgot I had done that.
Even with a fake email, you're still creating a permanent tracking cookie for the bastards.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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Reading this article (Introducing Fluent, Windows 10’s modern UI approach | InfoWorld[^]) I came upon this sentence.
article said:
One of Fluent’s nicer features is the Reveal tool that illuminates the borders around an object, showing quickly which screen elements allow interaction, lighting up as you mouse over or tab into an active field
That sentence seems completely out of place because it says "as you mouse over or tab" but those functions are completely gone when a person is using a pad/phone (touch device). But, Fluent Design has been driven by the fact that Microsoft is running toward pad/phone (touch devices) even though Microsoft doesn't have a phone and barely has a pad device. :confused: Microsoft Wants To Be The Cool Kid Too It's honestly as if Microsoft is just trying to be like the cool kids even though everyone knows they're not. Hey, Microsoft, just be Microsoft, ok? :rolleyes: And to further my rant, here's what microsoft says about their new design:
Microsoft docs*:
UWP helps by automatically adjusting UI elements so that they're legible and easy to interact with on all devices and screen sizes.
But that really isn't true. Things are too big on a desktop and take up too much space. Everything is targeted toward smaller touch devices. *Introduction to Universal Windows Platform (UWP) app design (Windows apps) - UWP app developer | Microsoft Docs[^] ** More info on Reveal : Reveal Focus - UWP app developer | Microsoft Docs[^]
raddevus wrote:
Microsoft Wants To Be The Cool Kid Too
Did you notice, this has been happening for so long. Right after Windows 8, Windows Phone failure. They were sticking to a very strict "Metro/Modern" UI stuff, without ANY kind of coolness. Even it took them years to bring a transparent homescreen wallpaper for their phone. But I guess this is an evolution towards a sensible direction. Even their documentations used to look so dry but now they are putting up some cool pictures, images, drawings :). One example is the new Azure DevOps - What a shower of icons & toons. :-O
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:elephant:ing up interfaces is the latest and greatest trend. Hulu++: (for streaming) sucks so hard it hurts - I'd cut my subscription now if it were not for Mrs WIfe's need for a few shows I've not yet otherwise sourced. It wants to make my TV into a cellphone and shoves "trending" in my face. I don't care what's trending. If I did, I'd find the link and click it. Meanwhile, they no longer seem to keep up-to-date with TV series, which was the reason I selected them to begin with. Huge numbers of subscribers have complained and all they receive are empty platitudes.* Ubuntu: I loaded 16.04 on my Intel Nuc (it was the Intel Certified version). It, too, seems to be trending more and more into a cell-phone look-and-feel. I'm not using it on an :elephant:ing cell phone.
Maybe all of this is just some insane race of everyone trying to be like MicroSloth and MicroSloth trying to commit suicide. The age of digital lemmings?
Windows: What could I say that hasn't been said. * I have a device that still has the older version - this crappy performance and brainless interface is no illusion. [edit]change "turn PC into laptop to what I meant: TV into cellphone[/edit]
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
W∴ Balboos wrote:
Ubuntu: I loaded 16.04 on my Intel Nuc (it was the Intel Certified version). It, too, seems to be trending more and more into a cell-phone look-and-feel. I'm not using it on an [mastadon] ing cell phone.
I don't even like the "modern" cell phone look on my cell phone... all I want is a phone, messages and a few other apps: whatsapp (free msg via wifi on travel), ridewithgps to keep myself honest and occasionally skype.) fur sure I don't need a friggin christmas tree. side comment 1: try lubuntu (minimal ubuntu, still traditional type window mgr) side comment 2: ridewithgps is like strava without the in-your-face social media shite.
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Did you read the first line of the Reveal Focus Doc you have linked at the bottom?
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Reveal Focus is a lighting effect for 10-foot experiences, such as Xbox One and television screens.
Last I used an Xbox or TV screen it seemed quite a bit different than a pad/phone. ;)
Jason Gleim wrote:
Last I used an Xbox or TV screen ...
... was at least 20 years ago. ;) (Nevermind that the XBox probably didn't exist then, I never used one.)
Latest Article - A Concise Overview of Threads Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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I have heard of this before but never really bothered to look into it. However, you explanation has convinced me to explore it further :thumbsup: I suppose it would be too much to expect the service will automatically respond to any "click here to confirm email" links? That would be awesome. Although, if it becomes too popular, sites will just block mailinator domains I guess. EDIT: Looks like that site already blocks mailinator.com
musefan wrote:
Looks like that site already blocks mailinator.com
Bummer, too bad they changed it. :sigh: I must've gotten in under the wire.
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Jason Gleim wrote:
Last I used an Xbox or TV screen ...
... was at least 20 years ago. ;) (Nevermind that the XBox probably didn't exist then, I never used one.)
Latest Article - A Concise Overview of Threads Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
Bah! Kids these days... don't know how good they have it. Back in my day.... :zzz:
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Reading this article (Introducing Fluent, Windows 10’s modern UI approach | InfoWorld[^]) I came upon this sentence.
article said:
One of Fluent’s nicer features is the Reveal tool that illuminates the borders around an object, showing quickly which screen elements allow interaction, lighting up as you mouse over or tab into an active field
That sentence seems completely out of place because it says "as you mouse over or tab" but those functions are completely gone when a person is using a pad/phone (touch device). But, Fluent Design has been driven by the fact that Microsoft is running toward pad/phone (touch devices) even though Microsoft doesn't have a phone and barely has a pad device. :confused: Microsoft Wants To Be The Cool Kid Too It's honestly as if Microsoft is just trying to be like the cool kids even though everyone knows they're not. Hey, Microsoft, just be Microsoft, ok? :rolleyes: And to further my rant, here's what microsoft says about their new design:
Microsoft docs*:
UWP helps by automatically adjusting UI elements so that they're legible and easy to interact with on all devices and screen sizes.
But that really isn't true. Things are too big on a desktop and take up too much space. Everything is targeted toward smaller touch devices. *Introduction to Universal Windows Platform (UWP) app design (Windows apps) - UWP app developer | Microsoft Docs[^] ** More info on Reveal : Reveal Focus - UWP app developer | Microsoft Docs[^]
A console window with auto-complete is what I think of when I hear "Fluent Design". :laugh:
Latest Article - A Concise Overview of Threads Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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Reading this article (Introducing Fluent, Windows 10’s modern UI approach | InfoWorld[^]) I came upon this sentence.
article said:
One of Fluent’s nicer features is the Reveal tool that illuminates the borders around an object, showing quickly which screen elements allow interaction, lighting up as you mouse over or tab into an active field
That sentence seems completely out of place because it says "as you mouse over or tab" but those functions are completely gone when a person is using a pad/phone (touch device). But, Fluent Design has been driven by the fact that Microsoft is running toward pad/phone (touch devices) even though Microsoft doesn't have a phone and barely has a pad device. :confused: Microsoft Wants To Be The Cool Kid Too It's honestly as if Microsoft is just trying to be like the cool kids even though everyone knows they're not. Hey, Microsoft, just be Microsoft, ok? :rolleyes: And to further my rant, here's what microsoft says about their new design:
Microsoft docs*:
UWP helps by automatically adjusting UI elements so that they're legible and easy to interact with on all devices and screen sizes.
But that really isn't true. Things are too big on a desktop and take up too much space. Everything is targeted toward smaller touch devices. *Introduction to Universal Windows Platform (UWP) app design (Windows apps) - UWP app developer | Microsoft Docs[^] ** More info on Reveal : Reveal Focus - UWP app developer | Microsoft Docs[^]
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W∴ Balboos wrote:
Ubuntu: I loaded 16.04 on my Intel Nuc (it was the Intel Certified version). It, too, seems to be trending more and more into a cell-phone look-and-feel. I'm not using it on an [mastadon] ing cell phone.
I don't even like the "modern" cell phone look on my cell phone... all I want is a phone, messages and a few other apps: whatsapp (free msg via wifi on travel), ridewithgps to keep myself honest and occasionally skype.) fur sure I don't need a friggin christmas tree. side comment 1: try lubuntu (minimal ubuntu, still traditional type window mgr) side comment 2: ridewithgps is like strava without the in-your-face social media shite.
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My cellphone is a flip-phone. I do not make or accept text's, either. As I explain it, I own my phone and not the other way around. ridewthgps seems like (when I googled it) a cellfauxn application - not relevant in my current reality. If/when I reload the system (more like when), I'll possibly just try another flavor of Linux, altogether. Either something very straight and raw or something focused on why I mainly got the NUC (a super flexible adaptable media box), so maybe Mint. Whatever it is, I'll shop more carefully, noting that the images of the interface are telling me more than just how pretty it looks. I already used it (as in VLC) to watch a video that was unaccountably rejected by my patriot media player.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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A console window with auto-complete is what I think of when I hear "Fluent Design". :laugh:
Latest Article - A Concise Overview of Threads Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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Brb, dropping everything and switching to xbox development. Putting green shades on divs and stuff.
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Reading this article (Introducing Fluent, Windows 10’s modern UI approach | InfoWorld[^]) I came upon this sentence.
article said:
One of Fluent’s nicer features is the Reveal tool that illuminates the borders around an object, showing quickly which screen elements allow interaction, lighting up as you mouse over or tab into an active field
That sentence seems completely out of place because it says "as you mouse over or tab" but those functions are completely gone when a person is using a pad/phone (touch device). But, Fluent Design has been driven by the fact that Microsoft is running toward pad/phone (touch devices) even though Microsoft doesn't have a phone and barely has a pad device. :confused: Microsoft Wants To Be The Cool Kid Too It's honestly as if Microsoft is just trying to be like the cool kids even though everyone knows they're not. Hey, Microsoft, just be Microsoft, ok? :rolleyes: And to further my rant, here's what microsoft says about their new design:
Microsoft docs*:
UWP helps by automatically adjusting UI elements so that they're legible and easy to interact with on all devices and screen sizes.
But that really isn't true. Things are too big on a desktop and take up too much space. Everything is targeted toward smaller touch devices. *Introduction to Universal Windows Platform (UWP) app design (Windows apps) - UWP app developer | Microsoft Docs[^] ** More info on Reveal : Reveal Focus - UWP app developer | Microsoft Docs[^]
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Jason Gleim wrote:
Last I used an Xbox or TV screen ...
... was at least 20 years ago. ;) (Nevermind that the XBox probably didn't exist then, I never used one.)
Latest Article - A Concise Overview of Threads Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
Black Friday. It's the only reason I have an Xbox at all. The Xbox S, specifically. While it can't play *games* at 4K, it does come with a 4K Blu-ray player. I made the CAD$230 purchase when standalone UHD players were still close to that price. The way I saw it, I bought a UHD player and got a console thrown in as a bonus.
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Reading this article (Introducing Fluent, Windows 10’s modern UI approach | InfoWorld[^]) I came upon this sentence.
article said:
One of Fluent’s nicer features is the Reveal tool that illuminates the borders around an object, showing quickly which screen elements allow interaction, lighting up as you mouse over or tab into an active field
That sentence seems completely out of place because it says "as you mouse over or tab" but those functions are completely gone when a person is using a pad/phone (touch device). But, Fluent Design has been driven by the fact that Microsoft is running toward pad/phone (touch devices) even though Microsoft doesn't have a phone and barely has a pad device. :confused: Microsoft Wants To Be The Cool Kid Too It's honestly as if Microsoft is just trying to be like the cool kids even though everyone knows they're not. Hey, Microsoft, just be Microsoft, ok? :rolleyes: And to further my rant, here's what microsoft says about their new design:
Microsoft docs*:
UWP helps by automatically adjusting UI elements so that they're legible and easy to interact with on all devices and screen sizes.
But that really isn't true. Things are too big on a desktop and take up too much space. Everything is targeted toward smaller touch devices. *Introduction to Universal Windows Platform (UWP) app design (Windows apps) - UWP app developer | Microsoft Docs[^] ** More info on Reveal : Reveal Focus - UWP app developer | Microsoft Docs[^]
Maybe they just copy pasted that from the apple dev website and forgot to change that part...fluent whatever nevermind...
Caveat Emptor. "Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
