Piano vs Keyboard, any experience here?
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My son likes to learn playing piano. Now, my old piano does not fits his Apartment and therefore I suggested him to use a Keyboard to start. In my opinion it is ok to start with a Keyboard instead of a piano, but maybe I'm wrong. Any suggestions? :-O St. Louis Blues: Trick and Alderighi at Ragtime Extravaganza 2016 - YouTube[^] Jörg Hegemann - Boogie Woogie - YouTube[^] Boogie Woogie Piano - YouTube[^]
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My son likes to learn playing piano. Now, my old piano does not fits his Apartment and therefore I suggested him to use a Keyboard to start. In my opinion it is ok to start with a Keyboard instead of a piano, but maybe I'm wrong. Any suggestions? :-O St. Louis Blues: Trick and Alderighi at Ragtime Extravaganza 2016 - YouTube[^] Jörg Hegemann - Boogie Woogie - YouTube[^] Boogie Woogie Piano - YouTube[^]
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
A piano key weights much more than a keyboard key. An important aspect of learning how to play involves doing finger exercises to strengthen one's fingers. Practicing those exercises in a keyboard won't be as efficient, and will have an impact in the agility of your son's fingers. That doesn't mean he can't be virtuoso with a keyboard, but it'll be harder. So I would advise against it. However, I also live in an apartment, so I understand the dilemma. A good compromise (and what I did) is to buy a small electric piano that fits nicely in your living room. Plus, you can wear headphones, should the neighbors complain. The sound won't be as neat as with a normal piano, though. Just make sure that the weight of the keys are close enough to those of a normal piano. Should you decide for the keyboard, make sure that it has at least seven octaves. The common keyboards have five octaves, making it impossible to play most of the common classical pieces. I did learn in one of those, and it was very frustrating. Seven octaves will cover almost every easy and medium level pieces, and a great deal of the advanced ones.
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My son likes to learn playing piano. Now, my old piano does not fits his Apartment and therefore I suggested him to use a Keyboard to start. In my opinion it is ok to start with a Keyboard instead of a piano, but maybe I'm wrong. Any suggestions? :-O St. Louis Blues: Trick and Alderighi at Ragtime Extravaganza 2016 - YouTube[^] Jörg Hegemann - Boogie Woogie - YouTube[^] Boogie Woogie Piano - YouTube[^]
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
The one I have is considered to be a digital piano with semi-weighted keys and I think it feels very close to a real piano. I don't think it's even made any more but I like it. It is an Ensoniq Avista. I would recommend a digital piano for learning in an apartment environment.
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A piano key weights much more than a keyboard key. An important aspect of learning how to play involves doing finger exercises to strengthen one's fingers. Practicing those exercises in a keyboard won't be as efficient, and will have an impact in the agility of your son's fingers. That doesn't mean he can't be virtuoso with a keyboard, but it'll be harder. So I would advise against it. However, I also live in an apartment, so I understand the dilemma. A good compromise (and what I did) is to buy a small electric piano that fits nicely in your living room. Plus, you can wear headphones, should the neighbors complain. The sound won't be as neat as with a normal piano, though. Just make sure that the weight of the keys are close enough to those of a normal piano. Should you decide for the keyboard, make sure that it has at least seven octaves. The common keyboards have five octaves, making it impossible to play most of the common classical pieces. I did learn in one of those, and it was very frustrating. Seven octaves will cover almost every easy and medium level pieces, and a great deal of the advanced ones.
THANK YOU thousand times! You explained it very very good! Now, because of the circumstances he most probably needs to decides for a Keyboard... and I have to give away my old piano :( Seven octaves: yep, that was my "biggest" worry, but I googled sevreal and found also several with with 88 keys. So for this we are one the safe side. Thank you very much again. Bruno [Edit] "Just make sure that the weight of the keys are close enough to those of a normal piano" Do you have a Suggestion for a specific brand/model (yahama, roland, ...)? Thank you again.
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
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My son likes to learn playing piano. Now, my old piano does not fits his Apartment and therefore I suggested him to use a Keyboard to start. In my opinion it is ok to start with a Keyboard instead of a piano, but maybe I'm wrong. Any suggestions? :-O St. Louis Blues: Trick and Alderighi at Ragtime Extravaganza 2016 - YouTube[^] Jörg Hegemann - Boogie Woogie - YouTube[^] Boogie Woogie Piano - YouTube[^]
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I mostly agree with Fernando's reply, but just wanted to add a few things. A digital piano (keyboard) is definitely the way to go, but I'd strongly encourage a full 88 key model with weighted keys. It will never need tuning, and has other advantages over an old piano such as MIDI ports which can be used to drive a virtual keyboard/synthesizer on a computer, or to work with learning software...lot's of possibilities. I bought a really nice Yamaha as described for about $450 a few years ago, the prices will be lowest through the holiday season. Good luck! :)
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The one I have is considered to be a digital piano with semi-weighted keys and I think it feels very close to a real piano. I don't think it's even made any more but I like it. It is an Ensoniq Avista. I would recommend a digital piano for learning in an apartment environment.
Thank you very much for your Response. "Ensoniq Avista" is very new for me. Because of the background that I'm a Drummer I was searching for Roland. Need to check "Ensoniq Avista." Thank you, Bruno
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
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I mostly agree with Fernando's reply, but just wanted to add a few things. A digital piano (keyboard) is definitely the way to go, but I'd strongly encourage a full 88 key model with weighted keys. It will never need tuning, and has other advantages over an old piano such as MIDI ports which can be used to drive a virtual keyboard/synthesizer on a computer, or to work with learning software...lot's of possibilities. I bought a really nice Yamaha as described for about $450 a few years ago, the prices will be lowest through the holiday season. Good luck! :)
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Ahahhh, so you're cheating your bass with a Keyboard :laugh: "With weighted keys": What this means exactely? Thanks, Bruno
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They feel and play pretty much exactly like real piano keys.
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They feel and play pretty much exactly like real piano keys.
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Ahahhh, so you're cheating your bass with a Keyboard :laugh: "With weighted keys": What this means exactely? Thanks, Bruno
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Weighted keys feel much like playing a real piano with all the moving parts...like they have some weight to them and not just cheap plastic. I forgot to mention that the keys should also be velocity sensitive...most of the decent ones are. Yes I'm cheating on my bass! Thanks for remembering! Lately I've been playing bass lines on an acoustic guitar...put on Pandora Classic Rock and just play along. :)
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Now, that I'm playing myself piano, until now I never experienced a Keyboard which responds nearly the same as a conventional piano ;)
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A friend of mine has one with a full 88 weighted, velocity sensitive keys. Sadly, I can't remember the name on it, but it cost about $3,000, 20 years ago.
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My son likes to learn playing piano. Now, my old piano does not fits his Apartment and therefore I suggested him to use a Keyboard to start. In my opinion it is ok to start with a Keyboard instead of a piano, but maybe I'm wrong. Any suggestions? :-O St. Louis Blues: Trick and Alderighi at Ragtime Extravaganza 2016 - YouTube[^] Jörg Hegemann - Boogie Woogie - YouTube[^] Boogie Woogie Piano - YouTube[^]
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I bought myself a Casio CDP-130BKC5 together with a stand three few years ago and have been very happy with it - it's an 88 key piano. So I would definitely recommend either that particular piano or something similar.
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A friend of mine has one with a full 88 weighted, velocity sensitive keys. Sadly, I can't remember the name on it, but it cost about $3,000, 20 years ago.
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Dave Kreskowiak -
I bought myself a Casio CDP-130BKC5 together with a stand three few years ago and have been very happy with it - it's an 88 key piano. So I would definitely recommend either that particular piano or something similar.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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A friend of mine has one with a full 88 weighted, velocity sensitive keys. Sadly, I can't remember the name on it, but it cost about $3,000, 20 years ago.
Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
Dave Kreskowiak -
My son likes to learn playing piano. Now, my old piano does not fits his Apartment and therefore I suggested him to use a Keyboard to start. In my opinion it is ok to start with a Keyboard instead of a piano, but maybe I'm wrong. Any suggestions? :-O St. Louis Blues: Trick and Alderighi at Ragtime Extravaganza 2016 - YouTube[^] Jörg Hegemann - Boogie Woogie - YouTube[^] Boogie Woogie Piano - YouTube[^]
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
I'd recommend a MIDI keyboard (controller), with all 88 keys, connected to a computer. A good one will have weighted keys, and be pressure sensitive, and come with pedals. I use an older version of this[^] Studiologic controller and am very happy with it. A good one won't be cheap, but still way less than a piano (assuming you already have something to plug it into).
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I'd recommend a MIDI keyboard (controller), with all 88 keys, connected to a computer. A good one will have weighted keys, and be pressure sensitive, and come with pedals. I use an older version of this[^] Studiologic controller and am very happy with it. A good one won't be cheap, but still way less than a piano (assuming you already have something to plug it into).
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