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  • D DRHuff

    F-ES Sitecore wrote:

    as what you are doing is unprofessional

    Why? How is it different than leaving a job you are in to take a better job? How long should he have to work at the first job before he could take a different/better job somewhere else? 1 week? 3 months? At least in this position the company hasn't had to do a bunch of paperwork for in-processing a new employee and a bunch of training. They probably still have the ability to reach out to their other applicants if it has only been a short time since he accepted. Aren't all jobs accepted on the unspoken premise of "I will work for you until something better comes along."? I will agree that it is awkward and inconvenient for the the parties involved but I do not view it as unprofessional.

    Socialism is the Axe Body Spray of political ideologies: It never does what it claims to do, but people too young to know better keep buying it anyway. (Glenn Reynolds)

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    loctrice
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    This is an interesting take. I don't disagree when it's phrased this way. Also almost every job here is "at will" so it can be terminated instantly by either party for no reason at all.

    Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine

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    • D DRHuff

      F-ES Sitecore wrote:

      as what you are doing is unprofessional

      Why? How is it different than leaving a job you are in to take a better job? How long should he have to work at the first job before he could take a different/better job somewhere else? 1 week? 3 months? At least in this position the company hasn't had to do a bunch of paperwork for in-processing a new employee and a bunch of training. They probably still have the ability to reach out to their other applicants if it has only been a short time since he accepted. Aren't all jobs accepted on the unspoken premise of "I will work for you until something better comes along."? I will agree that it is awkward and inconvenient for the the parties involved but I do not view it as unprofessional.

      Socialism is the Axe Body Spray of political ideologies: It never does what it claims to do, but people too young to know better keep buying it anyway. (Glenn Reynolds)

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      littleGreenDude
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      You must have heard the saying that "A man is only as good as his word." He has made a commitment to the first company. Breaking that commitment makes him at best.. a liar. So, yes it is definitely unprofessional. Try testing that approach on your wife. "Honey, I'm with you until something better comes along." - let us know how that goes?

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      • L littleGreenDude

        You must have heard the saying that "A man is only as good as his word." He has made a commitment to the first company. Breaking that commitment makes him at best.. a liar. So, yes it is definitely unprofessional. Try testing that approach on your wife. "Honey, I'm with you until something better comes along." - let us know how that goes?

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        loctrice
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        This is actually more like breaking off an engagement than disrespecting your wife.

        Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine

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        • D DRHuff

          F-ES Sitecore wrote:

          as what you are doing is unprofessional

          Why? How is it different than leaving a job you are in to take a better job? How long should he have to work at the first job before he could take a different/better job somewhere else? 1 week? 3 months? At least in this position the company hasn't had to do a bunch of paperwork for in-processing a new employee and a bunch of training. They probably still have the ability to reach out to their other applicants if it has only been a short time since he accepted. Aren't all jobs accepted on the unspoken premise of "I will work for you until something better comes along."? I will agree that it is awkward and inconvenient for the the parties involved but I do not view it as unprofessional.

          Socialism is the Axe Body Spray of political ideologies: It never does what it claims to do, but people too young to know better keep buying it anyway. (Glenn Reynolds)

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          F ES Sitecore
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          It is different to leaving a current job because when you do that the company has got some value from your work, and you need to give a notice period which gives them a chance to replace you, and that notice period also means you have fully complied with your legal and moral duty to the company. Accepting a job offer and then declining it puts the company in a bad situation for many reasons. For one they may be banking on the fact that you are starting, and now they have to re-start the hiring process. They might have spent money on advertising, on agency fees etc which has gone to waste. If you are waiting on another offer to come through then you should tell the company that you need to wait, not accept it while you wait and see if the other offer comes through.

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          • L loctrice

            I recently accepted an offer from company A. I didn't have time to wait for company B as the offer would expire. Sure enough company B made me an offer that I can't refuse. I'm comfortable with my decision, but I don't know a good/professional way to tell company A that I've reconsidered. You can find things like resignation letter examples on line, but I don't see any examples of this. Ideas? Suggestions?

            Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine

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            musefan
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            Dear Company A, I have made the decision to decline your job offer and will no longer be joining you at this time. I have recently been offered an alternative role with another organisation which is much more suited to my current situation. I apologise for any inconvenience this may have caused you and I thank you for your time and interest. Best Regards, Me --- Basically just keep it short and to the point. It is good to mention the other offer as it reduces their need to come back with follow up questions (which they likely will if you don't say anything), which you don't want. If they are professional enough then you will get a short "we are sorry but all the best" reply. Otherwise you might get a short and ungrateful one... either way, you shouldn't need to take any further action with them.

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            • F F ES Sitecore

              It is different to leaving a current job because when you do that the company has got some value from your work, and you need to give a notice period which gives them a chance to replace you, and that notice period also means you have fully complied with your legal and moral duty to the company. Accepting a job offer and then declining it puts the company in a bad situation for many reasons. For one they may be banking on the fact that you are starting, and now they have to re-start the hiring process. They might have spent money on advertising, on agency fees etc which has gone to waste. If you are waiting on another offer to come through then you should tell the company that you need to wait, not accept it while you wait and see if the other offer comes through.

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              loctrice
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              I'm not sure where you live but everything here is "at will". There's no legal obligation at all and the moral obligation only seems to apply to the employee not the business. I've seen someone walked out of many jobs with no notice at all, and I've seen people rage quit and storm out. This company knew I was interviewing with other companies. I think that's why they put a very short time limit on the offer they extended.

              Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine

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              • L loctrice

                I recently accepted an offer from company A. I didn't have time to wait for company B as the offer would expire. Sure enough company B made me an offer that I can't refuse. I'm comfortable with my decision, but I don't know a good/professional way to tell company A that I've reconsidered. You can find things like resignation letter examples on line, but I don't see any examples of this. Ideas? Suggestions?

                Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine

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                W Balboos GHB
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                A couple score years ago, I had the same situation with graduate schools. Penn State accepted me and I accepted. Then Northwestern accepted me. A far better option in the field. My research advisor/mentor, who even had ties to Penn State, when asked what to do said "Northwestern - no question". And pointed out I really didn't owe anything to either. I took his advise - but such decisions still cause no small discomfort.

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                • L loctrice

                  I recently accepted an offer from company A. I didn't have time to wait for company B as the offer would expire. Sure enough company B made me an offer that I can't refuse. I'm comfortable with my decision, but I don't know a good/professional way to tell company A that I've reconsidered. You can find things like resignation letter examples on line, but I don't see any examples of this. Ideas? Suggestions?

                  Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine

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                  den2k88
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                  Any way works. I accepted A and I'm really repenting a lot.

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                  • L loctrice

                    I recently accepted an offer from company A. I didn't have time to wait for company B as the offer would expire. Sure enough company B made me an offer that I can't refuse. I'm comfortable with my decision, but I don't know a good/professional way to tell company A that I've reconsidered. You can find things like resignation letter examples on line, but I don't see any examples of this. Ideas? Suggestions?

                    Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine

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                    PIEBALDconsult
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                    "the offer would expire." Not sure I would have accepted an offer that had an expiration date in the first place. Sounds unprofessional and disrespectful to me. Just as consumers are advised to walk away from deals that are "only good today". And you would wind up working with a bunch of colleagues who had also fallen for the same bad sales technique.

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                    • L loctrice

                      I recently accepted an offer from company A. I didn't have time to wait for company B as the offer would expire. Sure enough company B made me an offer that I can't refuse. I'm comfortable with my decision, but I don't know a good/professional way to tell company A that I've reconsidered. You can find things like resignation letter examples on line, but I don't see any examples of this. Ideas? Suggestions?

                      Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine

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                      patbob
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                      Use the example letter musefan posted and take the job with Company B. Since Company A switched jobs and compensation on you, it sounds like they didn't really want you anyway, but thought you might be desperate enough to take whatever they offered. Even their counter offer sounds like they are not terribly interested in having you work for them. I can't imagine that would have been a good working relationship anyway.

                      I live in Oregon, and I'm an engineer.

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                      • P PIEBALDconsult

                        "the offer would expire." Not sure I would have accepted an offer that had an expiration date in the first place. Sounds unprofessional and disrespectful to me. Just as consumers are advised to walk away from deals that are "only good today". And you would wind up working with a bunch of colleagues who had also fallen for the same bad sales technique.

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                        Well, the company can't wait around forever for someone to accept an offer, especially if it's an urgent open position.

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                        • L loctrice

                          I recently accepted an offer from company A. I didn't have time to wait for company B as the offer would expire. Sure enough company B made me an offer that I can't refuse. I'm comfortable with my decision, but I don't know a good/professional way to tell company A that I've reconsidered. You can find things like resignation letter examples on line, but I don't see any examples of this. Ideas? Suggestions?

                          Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine

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                          realJSOP
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                          I've found that a carefully worded hand-written note usually does the trick. Don't forget to include the phrase, "IT SUCKS TO BE YOU! LMFAO", at the end.

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                          • P patbob

                            Use the example letter musefan posted and take the job with Company B. Since Company A switched jobs and compensation on you, it sounds like they didn't really want you anyway, but thought you might be desperate enough to take whatever they offered. Even their counter offer sounds like they are not terribly interested in having you work for them. I can't imagine that would have been a good working relationship anyway.

                            I live in Oregon, and I'm an engineer.

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                            loctrice
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                            I don't think they thought I was desperate. They knew I was talking with other companies, and had at least one offer. I think at least a good part of it was corporate limitations since it's such a large company. I mean I think they tried their best offer because they knew I wasn't desperate.

                            Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine

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                              I don't think they thought I was desperate. They knew I was talking with other companies, and had at least one offer. I think at least a good part of it was corporate limitations since it's such a large company. I mean I think they tried their best offer because they knew I wasn't desperate.

                              Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine

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                              My mistake, I read the counter offer story and thought it was part of your saga, which indicated the second company wasn't as interested and they seemed.. but that's not your dilemma. Well, Company A did their best, but it sounds like someone you'd rather work for made a better offer. My advice still stands, accept the offer from Company B and respectfully bow out from Company A.

                              I live in Oregon, and I'm an engineer.

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                              • J Jacquers

                                Well, the company can't wait around forever for someone to accept an offer, especially if it's an urgent open position.

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                                jeron1
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                                Agreed, there must be some reasonable timeframe for an applicant to accept or decline an offer.

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                                • M musefan

                                  Dear Company A, I have made the decision to decline your job offer and will no longer be joining you at this time. I have recently been offered an alternative role with another organisation which is much more suited to my current situation. I apologise for any inconvenience this may have caused you and I thank you for your time and interest. Best Regards, Me --- Basically just keep it short and to the point. It is good to mention the other offer as it reduces their need to come back with follow up questions (which they likely will if you don't say anything), which you don't want. If they are professional enough then you will get a short "we are sorry but all the best" reply. Otherwise you might get a short and ungrateful one... either way, you shouldn't need to take any further action with them.

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                                  Kevin McFarlane
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                                  Nice. :thumbsup: This happens a lot. It's the nature of job-hunting. If you've had two interviews, and one makes you an offer, and you're under pressure to say yes or no then you should say yes. You can't assume the other will be an offer, so if you don't accept the first you might end up with nothing. In practice it's the agency (if any) that gets upset (and might call you unprofessional) rather than the client, for understandable reasons. But that's life. As I was once told, if you don't look after yourself, no-one else will. Harsh, but true.

                                  Kevin

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                                  • L loctrice

                                    I recently accepted an offer from company A. I didn't have time to wait for company B as the offer would expire. Sure enough company B made me an offer that I can't refuse. I'm comfortable with my decision, but I don't know a good/professional way to tell company A that I've reconsidered. You can find things like resignation letter examples on line, but I don't see any examples of this. Ideas? Suggestions?

                                    Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine

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                                    Chris Maunder
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                                    Just be direct and honest. Stuff happens and as an employer myself I would want to know ASAP so I can get back to other candidates who I may have passed over in favour of you. Maybe they still have a chance.

                                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                                      I wonder what position in the A-Team he would have gotten...

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                                      Murdock, has to be Murdock...

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                                        I wonder what position in the A-Team he would have gotten...

                                        I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                                        It doesn't matter - the plan didn't come together!

                                        Socialism is the Axe Body Spray of political ideologies: It never does what it claims to do, but people too young to know better keep buying it anyway. (Glenn Reynolds)

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                                        • L loctrice

                                          I recently accepted an offer from company A. I didn't have time to wait for company B as the offer would expire. Sure enough company B made me an offer that I can't refuse. I'm comfortable with my decision, but I don't know a good/professional way to tell company A that I've reconsidered. You can find things like resignation letter examples on line, but I don't see any examples of this. Ideas? Suggestions?

                                          Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine

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                                          ...some family trouble...u have to do something else...hope ya understand tank u

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