Day 2
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There's an article on the BBC I'm finding puzzling Why is Canada running out of marijuana? - BBC News[^] Since legalising the sale of weed in Canada it looks like supplies are running out. The article talks about shops getting their supplies from government warehouses and provincial suppliers.
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"But obviously, when there's literally none there, it doesn't matter how big you are, there's just none there. If the government warehouse is empty, it's empty. There's nothing you can do."
I was led to believe that the product would be supplied by people who previously sold the product illegally, that they'd simply legitimise, that they already had the supply lines, the distribution, they'd just get the relevant licenses and start supplying the shops. Was that information wrong?
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
That explains why we haven't seen Centrist for a while now. He was our resident Canadian that first broke the news story. Apparently he's been too busy since. :laugh:
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F-ES Sitecore wrote:
It looks like previously-illegal dealers aren't supplying the product, but that the product is only being supplied by a sanctioned government supplier. Who could ever have predicated that....?
I'd guess someone who didn't insist that it is a commodity like everything else :)
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
Here is the black and white evidence that you were wrong. Are you going to be man enough to admit it?
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Here is the black and white evidence that you were wrong. Are you going to be man enough to admit it?
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It was a simple question that required a simple answer. I knew you would dodge it rather than answer it, just like I knew you were wrong when you said the supply would be handled by dealers. And you were wrong . Fact. :thumbsup:
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There's an article on the BBC I'm finding puzzling Why is Canada running out of marijuana? - BBC News[^] Since legalising the sale of weed in Canada it looks like supplies are running out. The article talks about shops getting their supplies from government warehouses and provincial suppliers.
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"But obviously, when there's literally none there, it doesn't matter how big you are, there's just none there. If the government warehouse is empty, it's empty. There's nothing you can do."
I was led to believe that the product would be supplied by people who previously sold the product illegally, that they'd simply legitimise, that they already had the supply lines, the distribution, they'd just get the relevant licenses and start supplying the shops. Was that information wrong?
I don't know much about it, but I would have thought any suppliers would have to become a registered business. And with a product such as this, I expect there would be more strict regulations on being able to sell it. My point being, maybe the dealers just haven't got the licence to sell it yet?
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It was a simple question that required a simple answer. I knew you would dodge it rather than answer it, just like I knew you were wrong when you said the supply would be handled by dealers. And you were wrong . Fact. :thumbsup:
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
And you were wrong . Fact. :thumbsup:
Ehr, no, it isn't; government isn't farming, just having a hand in controlled distribution. That's what I said would happen. Also nice to see you dancing for a single data-point you thought you had, and ignoring all the incorrect statements you already made :)
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I don't know much about it, but I would have thought any suppliers would have to become a registered business. And with a product such as this, I expect there would be more strict regulations on being able to sell it. My point being, maybe the dealers just haven't got the licence to sell it yet?
More likely that there was not enough stock to supply, now that it's legal. Takes a few weeks to grow a decent plant.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I don't know much about it, but I would have thought any suppliers would have to become a registered business. And with a product such as this, I expect there would be more strict regulations on being able to sell it. My point being, maybe the dealers just haven't got the licence to sell it yet?
You're 100% correct, it's obviously that's how it works, right? However some people think differently, they thought the shops would be supplied by drug dealers that used to operate illegally but have now become legit. What's sad is that even when shown the evidence that they are wrong they refuse to admit it.
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F-ES Sitecore wrote:
And you were wrong . Fact. :thumbsup:
Ehr, no, it isn't; government isn't farming, just having a hand in controlled distribution. That's what I said would happen. Also nice to see you dancing for a single data-point you thought you had, and ignoring all the incorrect statements you already made :)
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
You said I was wrong about those thing, but you said I was wrong about this too. I've just proven to you that just because you say something is wrong doesn't make it so. Something else you'll simply never admit so there is little point in engaging with you.
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There's an article on the BBC I'm finding puzzling Why is Canada running out of marijuana? - BBC News[^] Since legalising the sale of weed in Canada it looks like supplies are running out. The article talks about shops getting their supplies from government warehouses and provincial suppliers.
Quote:
"But obviously, when there's literally none there, it doesn't matter how big you are, there's just none there. If the government warehouse is empty, it's empty. There's nothing you can do."
I was led to believe that the product would be supplied by people who previously sold the product illegally, that they'd simply legitimise, that they already had the supply lines, the distribution, they'd just get the relevant licenses and start supplying the shops. Was that information wrong?
Yes it's wrong, in Ontario it is sold only through the government website. Canada Post just so happened to go on strike exactly at this moment, so there are still major disruption of deliveries. That's the reason why I never even bothered to try it. It will go on sale in the LCBO (government liquor stores) in April next year, then I will buy some. [Ontario government cannabis store](https://ocs.ca/#/verify-age)
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F-ES Sitecore wrote:
That explains why we haven't seen Centrist for a while now. He was our resident Canadian that first broke the news story. Apparently he's been too busy since. :laugh:
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
ZurdoDev wrote:
That explains why we haven't seen Centrist for a while now
Centrist here.
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There's an article on the BBC I'm finding puzzling Why is Canada running out of marijuana? - BBC News[^] Since legalising the sale of weed in Canada it looks like supplies are running out. The article talks about shops getting their supplies from government warehouses and provincial suppliers.
Quote:
"But obviously, when there's literally none there, it doesn't matter how big you are, there's just none there. If the government warehouse is empty, it's empty. There's nothing you can do."
I was led to believe that the product would be supplied by people who previously sold the product illegally, that they'd simply legitimise, that they already had the supply lines, the distribution, they'd just get the relevant licenses and start supplying the shops. Was that information wrong?
Victim of its success. Cannabis user had to turn back to the black market. A company in the city where I live is planning to multiply by ten its production in the short term.
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There's an article on the BBC I'm finding puzzling Why is Canada running out of marijuana? - BBC News[^] Since legalising the sale of weed in Canada it looks like supplies are running out. The article talks about shops getting their supplies from government warehouses and provincial suppliers.
Quote:
"But obviously, when there's literally none there, it doesn't matter how big you are, there's just none there. If the government warehouse is empty, it's empty. There's nothing you can do."
I was led to believe that the product would be supplied by people who previously sold the product illegally, that they'd simply legitimise, that they already had the supply lines, the distribution, they'd just get the relevant licenses and start supplying the shops. Was that information wrong?
I am guessing from a market value standpoint if the suppliers limit the supply they can push the price up.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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ZurdoDev wrote:
That explains why we haven't seen Centrist for a while now
Centrist here.
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There's an article on the BBC I'm finding puzzling Why is Canada running out of marijuana? - BBC News[^] Since legalising the sale of weed in Canada it looks like supplies are running out. The article talks about shops getting their supplies from government warehouses and provincial suppliers.
Quote:
"But obviously, when there's literally none there, it doesn't matter how big you are, there's just none there. If the government warehouse is empty, it's empty. There's nothing you can do."
I was led to believe that the product would be supplied by people who previously sold the product illegally, that they'd simply legitimise, that they already had the supply lines, the distribution, they'd just get the relevant licenses and start supplying the shops. Was that information wrong?
There goes my plan to fly into Toronto rather than NYC! I will have to break my journey in Amsterdam to console myself!:suss: :-O :thumbsup:
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You said I was wrong about those thing, but you said I was wrong about this too. I've just proven to you that just because you say something is wrong doesn't make it so. Something else you'll simply never admit so there is little point in engaging with you.
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
I've just proven to you that just because you say something is wrong doesn't make it so.
First of all, you did not prove that. Second, I never claimed, nor did anyone here believe that things are true because "Eddy said so". Turd, it's another sofist strategy; but pointing out that one has been wrong in the past does not mean that all statements are "wrong".
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
there is little point in engaging with you.
Yet you devoted an entire thread, simply to try and catch me on a semantic "wrong" :)
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I am guessing from a market value standpoint if the suppliers limit the supply they can push the price up.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
For that they would have to work together, which is forbidden in most countries. In a country with few growers, where demand explodes, there has to be imported from another country (imagine that) or wait for a new harvest.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
the plant is grown by civil servants
Grown by civil servants, no. But given some of the actions of government, they are definitely smoking it! :)
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The only supplier mentioned in the article is the government. It implies that if they can't get the commodity from the government they can't get any. No mention that "local dealers" have ran out of supplies too. It looks like previously-illegal dealers aren't supplying the product, but that the product is only being supplied by a sanctioned government supplier. Who could ever have predicated that....?
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
It looks like previously-illegal dealers aren't supplying the product, but that the product is only being supplied by a sanctioned government supplier. Who could ever have predicated that....?
Surely the sanctioned supplier is a lot cheaper end price than the original illegal supplies. A hell of a lot more middle men taking a cut. So would have thought the old supply lines went out of business as soon as it was legal. So not too hard to predict
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There's an article on the BBC I'm finding puzzling Why is Canada running out of marijuana? - BBC News[^] Since legalising the sale of weed in Canada it looks like supplies are running out. The article talks about shops getting their supplies from government warehouses and provincial suppliers.
Quote:
"But obviously, when there's literally none there, it doesn't matter how big you are, there's just none there. If the government warehouse is empty, it's empty. There's nothing you can do."
I was led to believe that the product would be supplied by people who previously sold the product illegally, that they'd simply legitimise, that they already had the supply lines, the distribution, they'd just get the relevant licenses and start supplying the shops. Was that information wrong?
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
I was led to believe that the product would be supplied by people who previously sold the product illegally,
Not sure where that came from and it doesn't really have much to do with the shortage regardless. Since it is legal more people buy it. However everything opened at once. And that included production facilities. And all those have to be licensed. Since weed is a crop it takes time to grow. Moreover there was certain to be inefficiencies as the growers need to figure out how to grow it and the actual demand (more crops require more money to be spent up front.) I also doubt the illegal providers were growing it themselves, for the most part. More likely they were importing it from other places. So no support there. But even so they would need to be licensed. Also didn't look at it but I wouldn't be surprised if those with convictions were excluded so that would cut down that by quite a bit.
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
getting their supplies from government warehouses
Rather certain that is a local variant. In one province only the government sells it. And presumably grows it. Others do not do that.