But her emails!
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I seem to recall (although I could be mistaken) you defending HRC's use of a personal e-mail server and the FBI's lackluster investigation. If so... it's hypocrisy now as you mock Ivanka. As for Ivanka's hypocrisy... if she criticized HRC's e-mail usage (or the FBI's mock investigation) and yet did the same then - absolutely, she's a hypocrite. If the WH or the right leaning media defend Ivanka then - absolutely, they'd be hypocrites.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
seem to recall (although I could be mistaken) you defending HRC's use of a personal e-mail server
NEVER! I would not even have supported her.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
If so... it's hypocrisy now as you mock Ivanka.
Even if I was supporting HRC, it is very hypocrite on the Trump's part to do the same team when they spent so much time decrying it. If I were him, I would be pissed off at my daughter for doing exactly that. The hypocrisy is on her, and on his father if he does not take action. The law is very clear on this, if what I read is true.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
If the WH or the right leaning media defend Ivanka then - absolutely, they'd be hypocr
Indeed.
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[Lock her up!](https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/20/politics/ivanka-trump-email/index.html) ;P ;P ;P
I can hardly wait for the extensive investigations by the Republican controlled Senate Intelligence committee to investigate Ivanka, Jared Kushner, Steve Bannon, Reince Priebus, Gary Cohn, and Stephen Miller for their user of private email. Oh, wait. That won't happen. It was always bullshit. Then there is Il Douche himself, revealing classified info directly to the Russian ambassador and his constant use of an insecure iPhone. He really is a national security risk.
Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne
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[Lock her up!](https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/20/politics/ivanka-trump-email/index.html) ;P ;P ;P
FFS she is a blonde trophy wife, what do you expect. Besides there is a vast difference between the first lady organising her family and the secretary of state doing official business.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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FFS she is a blonde trophy wife, what do you expect. Besides there is a vast difference between the first lady organising her family and the secretary of state doing official business.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
Mycroft Holmes wrote:
FFS she is a blonde trophy wife, what do you expect.
That is Melania. Ivana was the first wife and Ivanka (the one mentioned here) is Donaldo's eldest daughter and up there in the inner circle of his power brokers.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Mycroft Holmes wrote:
FFS she is a blonde trophy wife, what do you expect.
That is Melania. Ivana was the first wife and Ivanka (the one mentioned here) is Donaldo's eldest daughter and up there in the inner circle of his power brokers.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
:-O shows what I know about US politics.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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:-O shows what I know about US politics.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
DBH there are a lot of women in Trumps life, I can't keep track of them either. :)
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[Lock her up!](https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/20/politics/ivanka-trump-email/index.html) ;P ;P ;P
What is she doing in any position of government anyway, has that actually been clarified? I don't think your dad being president necessarily qualifies you to work on government business. There's so much nepotism in American politics (on all sides, your ex-husband once being president doesn't make you qualified either, neither for your son and so on).
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I can hardly wait for the extensive investigations by the Republican controlled Senate Intelligence committee to investigate Ivanka, Jared Kushner, Steve Bannon, Reince Priebus, Gary Cohn, and Stephen Miller for their user of private email. Oh, wait. That won't happen. It was always bullshit. Then there is Il Douche himself, revealing classified info directly to the Russian ambassador and his constant use of an insecure iPhone. He really is a national security risk.
Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne
Stop pretending you care about national security. Two years ago you didn't.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor
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Stop pretending you care about national security. Two years ago you didn't.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor
This entire thread is cancer.
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What is she doing in any position of government anyway, has that actually been clarified? I don't think your dad being president necessarily qualifies you to work on government business. There's so much nepotism in American politics (on all sides, your ex-husband once being president doesn't make you qualified either, neither for your son and so on).
She's been doing quite a bit with GEN Kelly (WH Chief of Staff), and does actually have an official, if bureaucratic, role as a Presidential aide.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
seem to recall (although I could be mistaken) you defending HRC's use of a personal e-mail server
NEVER! I would not even have supported her.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
If so... it's hypocrisy now as you mock Ivanka.
Even if I was supporting HRC, it is very hypocrite on the Trump's part to do the same team when they spent so much time decrying it. If I were him, I would be pissed off at my daughter for doing exactly that. The hypocrisy is on her, and on his father if he does not take action. The law is very clear on this, if what I read is true.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
If the WH or the right leaning media defend Ivanka then - absolutely, they'd be hypocr
Indeed.
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What is she doing in any position of government anyway, has that actually been clarified? I don't think your dad being president necessarily qualifies you to work on government business. There's so much nepotism in American politics (on all sides, your ex-husband once being president doesn't make you qualified either, neither for your son and so on).
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
your dad being president necessarily qualifies you to work on government business.
There is a word for that.
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What is she doing in any position of government anyway, has that actually been clarified? I don't think your dad being president necessarily qualifies you to work on government business. There's so much nepotism in American politics (on all sides, your ex-husband once being president doesn't make you qualified either, neither for your son and so on).
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
I don't think your dad being president necessarily qualifies you to work on government business.
FTFY
Socialism is the Axe Body Spray of political ideologies: It never does what it claims to do, but people too young to know better keep buying it anyway. (Glenn Reynolds)
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Stop pretending you care about national security. Two years ago you didn't.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor
It looks like you woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.
Nathan Minier wrote:
Stop pretending you care about national security.
When Cadet Bonespurs revealed classified information to the Russian ambassador, he probably got some people killed and he definitely made it less likely that foreign intelligence services would cooperate with the US, knowing that our idiot president* might at any time reveal their sources and methods. That is a real threat to our national security. As far as him blabbing to Sean Hannity on an unsecure phone while the Russians and Chinese listen in, it is theoretically possible that they might learn something but, for once, Il Douche's ignorance and incompetence makes it unlikely he knows anything worthwhile to the Russians or Chinese.
Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne
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Why? Clinton already proved that you can be criminally negligent, intentionally damage national security, actively impede an investigation, a be a generally cover your evil, criminal, tracks and no responsibility will be assigned to you, provided that you have the correct last name. But yes, if anything classified hit that server she is 100% responsible and should go to prison for at least a decade, just like your precious idol was and should have done.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor
Nathan Minier wrote:
you can be criminally negligent, intentionally damage national security, actively impede an investigation, a be a generally cover your evil, criminal, tracks and no responsibility will be assigned to you, provided that you have the correct last name.
That's a good description of how I perceive a lot of the world's "top" politicians. (can't say I'm fed up with politics, or a "Wutbürger", yet I'm astonished of how many people still give them their votes - And that's "alternative" parties counted in, too).
I only have a signature in order to let @DalekDave follow my posts.
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Very Large Brain wrote:
NEVER! I would not even have supported her.
Then I apologize. :rose: :beer:
Very Large Brain wrote:
The law is very clear on this, if what I read is true.
Not sure it is. Otherwise HRC would likely be incarcerated.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
Then I apologize. [Rose] [beer]
No harm done! I find Americans very polarized. Either for Trump or for HRC. I don't like either of them. Here in Canada we have 4 major parties and any of them could win an election. At the last election, I voted for neither of them, although I was glad to see Harper ousted.
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It looks like you woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.
Nathan Minier wrote:
Stop pretending you care about national security.
When Cadet Bonespurs revealed classified information to the Russian ambassador, he probably got some people killed and he definitely made it less likely that foreign intelligence services would cooperate with the US, knowing that our idiot president* might at any time reveal their sources and methods. That is a real threat to our national security. As far as him blabbing to Sean Hannity on an unsecure phone while the Russians and Chinese listen in, it is theoretically possible that they might learn something but, for once, Il Douche's ignorance and incompetence makes it unlikely he knows anything worthwhile to the Russians or Chinese.
Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne
I think was he was getting at was that you don't care about Clinton's potential security breaches, only Trumps. In other words, like most people on the left the only way they can present an argument is if they are being massive hypocrites. When discussing these ideas in your safe-space echo-chambers that flies as you're all willing to ignore the same uncomfortable truths, but unfortunately when you try those arguments on normal people all they see is your hypocrisy and rather lackluster points.
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I think was he was getting at was that you don't care about Clinton's potential security breaches, only Trumps. In other words, like most people on the left the only way they can present an argument is if they are being massive hypocrites. When discussing these ideas in your safe-space echo-chambers that flies as you're all willing to ignore the same uncomfortable truths, but unfortunately when you try those arguments on normal people all they see is your hypocrisy and rather lackluster points.
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
only Trumps
Only tRump openly revealed classified information to the Russian ambassador. Only tRump is using an unsecure phone that is likely being intercepted. I really don't care about Ivanka. The hypocrisy is on the right. After screaming about Clinton for years, they have no interest in investigating the numerous breaches in email protocol by various executive branch players. And ad-homs are always a loser. It just makes you look weak.
Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne
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F-ES Sitecore wrote:
only Trumps
Only tRump openly revealed classified information to the Russian ambassador. Only tRump is using an unsecure phone that is likely being intercepted. I really don't care about Ivanka. The hypocrisy is on the right. After screaming about Clinton for years, they have no interest in investigating the numerous breaches in email protocol by various executive branch players. And ad-homs are always a loser. It just makes you look weak.
Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne
Thanks for verifying everything I said :thumbsup: BTW if you want to throw around accusations of "ad hominem" then at least learn what it is. You're using it the same way the left use "racist", "bigot", "Nazi" etc; just a slur to try and shut down what people are saying. You might think it works, but I'm afraid it doesn't.
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Thanks for verifying everything I said :thumbsup: BTW if you want to throw around accusations of "ad hominem" then at least learn what it is. You're using it the same way the left use "racist", "bigot", "Nazi" etc; just a slur to try and shut down what people are saying. You might think it works, but I'm afraid it doesn't.
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
Thanks for verifying everything I said
Since you didn't say this: "The hypocrisy is on the right." You're just wrong.
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
learn what it is.
It's what you wrote.
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
shut down what people are saying.
You haven't said anything So, I'll wait...
Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne