Your opinion: Steve Jobs or Bill Gates
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The question here is really vague, and possibly might be a bit sided on this forum. So, answer however you think, provide you input as to "Steve Jobs or Bill Gates" Be it: Who has provided more influence in the tech industry? Which was better a pong? Who was the better CEO? Who have helped the world better with their technology solutions? Who was smarter? Which looked better in a black turtleneck and blue jeans? ....
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The question here is really vague, and possibly might be a bit sided on this forum. So, answer however you think, provide you input as to "Steve Jobs or Bill Gates" Be it: Who has provided more influence in the tech industry? Which was better a pong? Who was the better CEO? Who have helped the world better with their technology solutions? Who was smarter? Which looked better in a black turtleneck and blue jeans? ....
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The question here is really vague, and possibly might be a bit sided on this forum. So, answer however you think, provide you input as to "Steve Jobs or Bill Gates" Be it: Who has provided more influence in the tech industry? Which was better a pong? Who was the better CEO? Who have helped the world better with their technology solutions? Who was smarter? Which looked better in a black turtleneck and blue jeans? ....
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The question here is really vague, and possibly might be a bit sided on this forum. So, answer however you think, provide you input as to "Steve Jobs or Bill Gates" Be it: Who has provided more influence in the tech industry? Which was better a pong? Who was the better CEO? Who have helped the world better with their technology solutions? Who was smarter? Which looked better in a black turtleneck and blue jeans? ....
Influence in the tech industry - Gates but Jobs in other industries such as communication and entertainment. Pong - Tie, they both sucked. CEO - Gates was a better traditional businessman. Helped the world with their solutions - Tie, both were instrumental in revolutionary changes in several industries. Smarter - Gates but Jobs was more visionary. Looked better in turtleneck and jeans - Jobs but then again I've never seen Gates dressed like that.
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The question here is really vague, and possibly might be a bit sided on this forum. So, answer however you think, provide you input as to "Steve Jobs or Bill Gates" Be it: Who has provided more influence in the tech industry? Which was better a pong? Who was the better CEO? Who have helped the world better with their technology solutions? Who was smarter? Which looked better in a black turtleneck and blue jeans? ....
One created an OS that is found on nearly every end-user system, the other tried to sell something similar to an OS for a niche. One is an actual programmer, the other was a salesman.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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The question here is really vague, and possibly might be a bit sided on this forum. So, answer however you think, provide you input as to "Steve Jobs or Bill Gates" Be it: Who has provided more influence in the tech industry? Which was better a pong? Who was the better CEO? Who have helped the world better with their technology solutions? Who was smarter? Which looked better in a black turtleneck and blue jeans? ....
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Influence in the tech industry - Gates but Jobs in other industries such as communication and entertainment. Pong - Tie, they both sucked. CEO - Gates was a better traditional businessman. Helped the world with their solutions - Tie, both were instrumental in revolutionary changes in several industries. Smarter - Gates but Jobs was more visionary. Looked better in turtleneck and jeans - Jobs but then again I've never seen Gates dressed like that.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
Helped the world with their solutions - Tie, both were instrumental in revolutionary changes in several ind
Wait. Do you know about the work Gates does for human relief efforts? You're not comparing Jobs creating a little music player / phone & music player to the work Gates has done outside of Microsoft, right? I thought the question was over-all. Maybe you were thinking just about Microsoft v Apple? Just curious. EDIT Okay, I see that the question was "helped the world with their technology solutions" so I'm sure you were comparing MS to Apple and that is all.
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Influence in the tech industry - Gates but Jobs in other industries such as communication and entertainment. Pong - Tie, they both sucked. CEO - Gates was a better traditional businessman. Helped the world with their solutions - Tie, both were instrumental in revolutionary changes in several industries. Smarter - Gates but Jobs was more visionary. Looked better in turtleneck and jeans - Jobs but then again I've never seen Gates dressed like that.
Seems about right.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
Smarter - Gates but Jobs was more visionary.
Yes. But also "visionary" shouldn't be underrated. Consider the position of Apple with Jobs, then without, then with, then without.
Kevin
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The question here is really vague, and possibly might be a bit sided on this forum. So, answer however you think, provide you input as to "Steve Jobs or Bill Gates" Be it: Who has provided more influence in the tech industry? Which was better a pong? Who was the better CEO? Who have helped the world better with their technology solutions? Who was smarter? Which looked better in a black turtleneck and blue jeans? ....
I think the black turtleneck winner is Jeff Goldblum. Though, of course a turtleneck is not a manly look. So I guess Bill would win by _not_ wearing one.
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One created an OS that is found on nearly every end-user system, the other tried to sell something similar to an OS for a niche. One is an actual programmer, the other was a salesman.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
the other tried to sell something similar to an OS for a niche
Are you Steve Wozniak in disguise? That's what he thought too.
Wozniak:
...the Macintosh, which wasn't really a computer, just a program that looked like a computer and led to big problems later on;
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The question here is really vague, and possibly might be a bit sided on this forum. So, answer however you think, provide you input as to "Steve Jobs or Bill Gates" Be it: Who has provided more influence in the tech industry? Which was better a pong? Who was the better CEO? Who have helped the world better with their technology solutions? Who was smarter? Which looked better in a black turtleneck and blue jeans? ....
You missed out a crucial comparison...who could jump over a chair like a boss?
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The only company that closes their operating system to their own produced devices.That's all.
Umm... Aren't _most_ Operating Systems hardware-specific? Try running OpenVMS on an IBM system. If you're talking about only _consumer-grade_ Operating Systems, then I still don't see a problem.
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The question here is really vague, and possibly might be a bit sided on this forum. So, answer however you think, provide you input as to "Steve Jobs or Bill Gates" Be it: Who has provided more influence in the tech industry? Which was better a pong? Who was the better CEO? Who have helped the world better with their technology solutions? Who was smarter? Which looked better in a black turtleneck and blue jeans? ....
An interesting contrast: Bill Gates became a Billionaire in 1987 (age 32) from his work at the company (Microsoft) he cofounded, making him the youngest self-made billionaire in history. Steve Jobs became a Billionaire in 1995 (age 40) not from the company he founded but from Pixar. Just now reading this article for the first time and it is very good: How Steve Jobs Became a Billionaire[^] Some very interesting quotes from the article:
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“Steve doesn’t get Pixar,” Pam went on. “We’re artsy and creative. We’re like a family. We hug. And we’re not a top-down organization; everyone here has a voice.”
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“Steve is the guy who owns us—but he’s never been one of us,” Pam explained. “We’ve long felt unvalued, unappreciated. People worry that if he gets too close, he’ll ruin Pixar, and destroy our culture. And now, you’re the guy he has sent to whip us into shape.”
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“Plus,” Pam added, “He’s broken promises. And people are angry about that.”
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Umm... Aren't _most_ Operating Systems hardware-specific? Try running OpenVMS on an IBM system. If you're talking about only _consumer-grade_ Operating Systems, then I still don't see a problem.
There is no problem, Apple is very successful. I just don't like it. Consider Microsoft windows. The possibilities to build a machine that will run it are endless. Android is available on all kinds of different devices from thousands of vendors. Apple has two or three iPhones, two or three laptops and two or three desktops, very limited opportunities to customise them. That is why I never bought personally an Apple device and use them only because my work requires it. In other words, Apple is a hardware company first and I'm a software guy.
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There is no problem, Apple is very successful. I just don't like it. Consider Microsoft windows. The possibilities to build a machine that will run it are endless. Android is available on all kinds of different devices from thousands of vendors. Apple has two or three iPhones, two or three laptops and two or three desktops, very limited opportunities to customise them. That is why I never bought personally an Apple device and use them only because my work requires it. In other words, Apple is a hardware company first and I'm a software guy.
IBM is a hardware company. DEC was a hardware company -- Compaq and HP... hardware companies. Apple being a hardware company is not the issue.
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IBM is a hardware company. DEC was a hardware company -- Compaq and HP... hardware companies. Apple being a hardware company is not the issue.
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An interesting contrast: Bill Gates became a Billionaire in 1987 (age 32) from his work at the company (Microsoft) he cofounded, making him the youngest self-made billionaire in history. Steve Jobs became a Billionaire in 1995 (age 40) not from the company he founded but from Pixar. Just now reading this article for the first time and it is very good: How Steve Jobs Became a Billionaire[^] Some very interesting quotes from the article:
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“Steve doesn’t get Pixar,” Pam went on. “We’re artsy and creative. We’re like a family. We hug. And we’re not a top-down organization; everyone here has a voice.”
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“Steve is the guy who owns us—but he’s never been one of us,” Pam explained. “We’ve long felt unvalued, unappreciated. People worry that if he gets too close, he’ll ruin Pixar, and destroy our culture. And now, you’re the guy he has sent to whip us into shape.”
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“Plus,” Pam added, “He’s broken promises. And people are angry about that.”
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Not sure what you are trying to say. None of these companies have their own consumer operating system. We are comparing apples and Microsoft. The other ones are not even fruits if you know what I mean :)
Contrarywise, DEC developed most of the Operating Systems for their hardware (PDP, VAX, Alpha), as did IBM (mainframes) -- just not a consumer-grade OS. Those Operating Systems don't run on hardware it wasn't developed for and you can't just go to a store and buy parts to assemble a compatible system. On the other hand, there are rumors that HP may release a version of OpenVMS that runs natively on x86, but lacking that there are emulators.