Waiting for Harsh EU Response!
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Iran Confirms Death of Social Media Activist Held on Security Charges[^] Like with the Saudi's, time for you to do some sanctioning.
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Iran rejects criticism of its human rights record by international human rights bodies as politically motivated and based on a lack of understanding of Islamic laws.
I believe they're correct. If we better understood islamic law we'd realize why it is indeed heroic to shoot a pregnant woman at a bus stop!
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Iran Confirms Death of Social Media Activist Held on Security Charges[^] Like with the Saudi's, time for you to do some sanctioning.
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Iran rejects criticism of its human rights record by international human rights bodies as politically motivated and based on a lack of understanding of Islamic laws.
I believe they're correct. If we better understood islamic law we'd realize why it is indeed heroic to shoot a pregnant woman at a bus stop!
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
The EU cannot be harsh on Iran, in a similar way the US cannot be harsh on SA. Russia and China will also keep buying Iranian oil, regardless of US sanctions.
W∴ Balboos wrote:
If we better understood islamic law
..Islam is just the way to rally the people; here we have our own nonsense - the social unrest in France is now being attributed to "Russian meddling". It is as religious and nonsensical as any cult, and serves the same purpose. The difference being of course that Islam in itself has a limited lifespan :)
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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The EU cannot be harsh on Iran, in a similar way the US cannot be harsh on SA. Russia and China will also keep buying Iranian oil, regardless of US sanctions.
W∴ Balboos wrote:
If we better understood islamic law
..Islam is just the way to rally the people; here we have our own nonsense - the social unrest in France is now being attributed to "Russian meddling". It is as religious and nonsensical as any cult, and serves the same purpose. The difference being of course that Islam in itself has a limited lifespan :)
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
that Islam in itself has a limited lifespan
It has been around for thousands of years over a thousand years. How is that limited? Perhaps I missed a joke or something, but I don't see Islam going away for another 1000 years or so. :confused:
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
that Islam in itself has a limited lifespan
It has been around for thousands of years over a thousand years. How is that limited? Perhaps I missed a joke or something, but I don't see Islam going away for another 1000 years or so. :confused:
Slacker007 wrote:
It has been around for thousands of years. How is that limited?
That something has been around for a long time is not an argument in any form; slavery has been around for a long time, doesn't mean it is a bad idea. Religion, or better, the belief in fairy-tales and nonsense from thousands of years ago cannot be combined with rational educated people. Belief in fantasy-people that live in the clouds will disappear, sooner or later.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Slacker007 wrote:
It has been around for thousands of years. How is that limited?
That something has been around for a long time is not an argument in any form; slavery has been around for a long time, doesn't mean it is a bad idea. Religion, or better, the belief in fairy-tales and nonsense from thousands of years ago cannot be combined with rational educated people. Belief in fantasy-people that live in the clouds will disappear, sooner or later.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
I hear you but I honestly don't think Islam will go away any time soon. Not in our lifetime, and not in a thousand lifetimes, unfortunately.
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I hear you but I honestly don't think Islam will go away any time soon. Not in our lifetime, and not in a thousand lifetimes, unfortunately.
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The EU cannot be harsh on Iran, in a similar way the US cannot be harsh on SA. Russia and China will also keep buying Iranian oil, regardless of US sanctions.
W∴ Balboos wrote:
If we better understood islamic law
..Islam is just the way to rally the people; here we have our own nonsense - the social unrest in France is now being attributed to "Russian meddling". It is as religious and nonsensical as any cult, and serves the same purpose. The difference being of course that Islam in itself has a limited lifespan :)
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
here we have our own nonsense
That, alas, is a given (except for me, the one and only true Gold Standard). What can be do is, much like an errant pet, training. In this case, international coddling should be replace by a rather serious smack on the nose with a rolled newspaper. The adherents appear to not fear to lose their lives and either they must be given said fear or (more likely) an alternative target be found. [Perhaps convince them that the "seventy two" virgins are all males?] More seriously, holding their leaders personally (and lethally) accountable would aid in how they vent their frustration. It's one thing to send others out to do - it's quite another to keep looking up because you know there's a drone with your name on it.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Slacker007 wrote:
It has been around for thousands of years. How is that limited?
That something has been around for a long time is not an argument in any form; slavery has been around for a long time, doesn't mean it is a bad idea. Religion, or better, the belief in fairy-tales and nonsense from thousands of years ago cannot be combined with rational educated people. Belief in fantasy-people that live in the clouds will disappear, sooner or later.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
here we have our own nonsense
That, alas, is a given (except for me, the one and only true Gold Standard). What can be do is, much like an errant pet, training. In this case, international coddling should be replace by a rather serious smack on the nose with a rolled newspaper. The adherents appear to not fear to lose their lives and either they must be given said fear or (more likely) an alternative target be found. [Perhaps convince them that the "seventy two" virgins are all males?] More seriously, holding their leaders personally (and lethally) accountable would aid in how they vent their frustration. It's one thing to send others out to do - it's quite another to keep looking up because you know there's a drone with your name on it.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
W∴ Balboos wrote:
The adherents appear to not fear to lose their lives
If your life is a lousy one and you seriously believe you can become a martyr, then it is hardly a threat to kill them. Anyone who thinks he/she can kill in the name of their God should be sent to see Him directly :thumbsup: --edit Looked at a Trump-speech after reading this post. The difference is "yuuge" :thumbsup:
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Slacker007 wrote:
It has been around for thousands of years. How is that limited?
That something has been around for a long time is not an argument in any form; slavery has been around for a long time, doesn't mean it is a bad idea. Religion, or better, the belief in fairy-tales and nonsense from thousands of years ago cannot be combined with rational educated people. Belief in fantasy-people that live in the clouds will disappear, sooner or later.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
That something is a good idea doesn't mean it will last. Rational educated people don't seem to breed fast enough to replace themselves and are quickly emptying Europe of Europeans - what replaces them won't look much like Europe. And hoping that you can convert enough of the newcomers to your rational view given the history of integration in Europe is certainly not rational!
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Iran Confirms Death of Social Media Activist Held on Security Charges[^] Like with the Saudi's, time for you to do some sanctioning.
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Iran rejects criticism of its human rights record by international human rights bodies as politically motivated and based on a lack of understanding of Islamic laws.
I believe they're correct. If we better understood islamic law we'd realize why it is indeed heroic to shoot a pregnant woman at a bus stop!
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
CAGW (DAGW, whatever you like to call it) is a crock, but I wish we could get off oil and ring fence these cunts and kick them back to the stone age where they belong.
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That something is a good idea doesn't mean it will last. Rational educated people don't seem to breed fast enough to replace themselves and are quickly emptying Europe of Europeans - what replaces them won't look much like Europe. And hoping that you can convert enough of the newcomers to your rational view given the history of integration in Europe is certainly not rational!
DRHuff wrote:
Rational educated people don't seem to breed fast enough to replace themselves
Something they are proud of.
DRHuff wrote:
what replaces them won't look much like Europe
That's how it is supposed to work; if Europeans can't adapt, they'll be replaced by something that does.
DRHuff wrote:
And hoping that you can convert enough of the newcomers to your rational view given the history of integration in Europe is certainly not rational!
I do not need to convert anyone; it may take a few centuries, but all religions will eventually be replaced.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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CAGW (DAGW, whatever you like to call it) is a crock, but I wish we could get off oil and ring fence these cunts and kick them back to the stone age where they belong.
Well, 2030 is the deadline [https://www.wired.com/2016/10/german-auto-industry-finally-maybe-done-gas/\](https://www.wired.com/2016/10/german-auto-industry-finally-maybe-done-gas/)
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The Bundesrat, which represents German states at the federal level, voted to ban all diesel and gasoline cars by 2030. Yes, in just 14 years, the country wants all new cars to be emissions-free.
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Well, 2030 is the deadline [https://www.wired.com/2016/10/german-auto-industry-finally-maybe-done-gas/\](https://www.wired.com/2016/10/german-auto-industry-finally-maybe-done-gas/)
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The Bundesrat, which represents German states at the federal level, voted to ban all diesel and gasoline cars by 2030. Yes, in just 14 years, the country wants all new cars to be emissions-free.
I like electric, if only it was good enough, and right now it isnt. In the mean time... Genetically engineered algae that produce high levels of sugars. [^]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2863401/ Genetically engineered yeast that can take this to 20% alcohol. Distil this into alcohol. Fiat and WV have been making 100% alcohol cars for the Brazilian market for decades. We can switch to it overnight. It transports like petrol, is clean, can produce more power (supports a higher compression ratio) and is safe.
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CAGW (DAGW, whatever you like to call it) is a crock, but I wish we could get off oil and ring fence these cunts and kick them back to the stone age where they belong.
Don't know what the acronym(s) stand for. None the less, if you note in my bio, it's "in real life . . . chemist". Even when oil was $3/bbl I was against burning it as fuel.* It's a valuable raw material and burning it is really stupid. It's damn hard to un-burn! A more modern twist to this is that the products made (from what wasn't burned) are themselves a pollution problem. They can be reused very efficiently. Solar? Wind? Geothermal? They're good where they can be implemented, but there's still a need for central power (for the rest of us) and nuclear power is the way to go. It would also probably prevent many of the global and proxy wars. * In later years, I worked in a "coal research" facility. Let me assure you that the stuff is filthy and belongs in the ground. It pollutes to such a high degree and on so many levels that it's daunting. It's an environmental disaster even before they burn it (I've seen strip-mines and the result of subsidence on homes). And of course, black lung.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Don't know what the acronym(s) stand for. None the less, if you note in my bio, it's "in real life . . . chemist". Even when oil was $3/bbl I was against burning it as fuel.* It's a valuable raw material and burning it is really stupid. It's damn hard to un-burn! A more modern twist to this is that the products made (from what wasn't burned) are themselves a pollution problem. They can be reused very efficiently. Solar? Wind? Geothermal? They're good where they can be implemented, but there's still a need for central power (for the rest of us) and nuclear power is the way to go. It would also probably prevent many of the global and proxy wars. * In later years, I worked in a "coal research" facility. Let me assure you that the stuff is filthy and belongs in the ground. It pollutes to such a high degree and on so many levels that it's daunting. It's an environmental disaster even before they burn it (I've seen strip-mines and the result of subsidence on homes). And of course, black lung.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
Catastrophic, Dangerous, etc Nuclear failed to deliver the promise though, and ended up more expensive than coal and gas. And of course doesnt work for cars...
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Catastrophic, Dangerous, etc Nuclear failed to deliver the promise though, and ended up more expensive than coal and gas. And of course doesnt work for cars...
Munchies_Matt wrote:
And of course doesnt work for cars...
Just how do you plan on charging those electric cars? As for dangerous - only because greedy businesses (or even greedier countries, like Japan) don't do proper maintenance of the plant and, the eventual spent fuel. That could be solved rather easily by making those responsible for disaster personally criminally liable for negligence. If you look at the "nuclear disasters" to date, they all have the hand of ignorance and greed in them. Three Mile Island? Poorly trained operators kept over-riding warnings as false alarms. Hiring idiots has since become illegal. Fukishima ? Besides a bad location, they Japanese basically cheaped out on waste disposal: using temporary storage as what amounted to permanent storage. Chernobyl? Poor construction and safety because the (Soviet) government had no actual accountability. I find it hysterical the Germany is getting rid of all of their nuclear power plants - which ultimately means replacing them with . . . fossil fuels! In case it comes to mind - using Hydrogen for fuel . . . where are you going to get it? Virtually all of they hydrogen on earth has already been burned. It's called "water". Unburning it will require energy - electric power in particular for electrolysis - and you may as well save a step (and added inefficiency) by just using electricity directly where it's needed.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
And of course doesnt work for cars...
Just how do you plan on charging those electric cars? As for dangerous - only because greedy businesses (or even greedier countries, like Japan) don't do proper maintenance of the plant and, the eventual spent fuel. That could be solved rather easily by making those responsible for disaster personally criminally liable for negligence. If you look at the "nuclear disasters" to date, they all have the hand of ignorance and greed in them. Three Mile Island? Poorly trained operators kept over-riding warnings as false alarms. Hiring idiots has since become illegal. Fukishima ? Besides a bad location, they Japanese basically cheaped out on waste disposal: using temporary storage as what amounted to permanent storage. Chernobyl? Poor construction and safety because the (Soviet) government had no actual accountability. I find it hysterical the Germany is getting rid of all of their nuclear power plants - which ultimately means replacing them with . . . fossil fuels! In case it comes to mind - using Hydrogen for fuel . . . where are you going to get it? Virtually all of they hydrogen on earth has already been burned. It's called "water". Unburning it will require energy - electric power in particular for electrolysis - and you may as well save a step (and added inefficiency) by just using electricity directly where it's needed.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
Electric doesnt work for cars yet, too unreliable, slow to charge, limited range. It just cant deliver what petrol or alcohol can. The cost of nuclear is without accidents though, just the price per kilowatt, it actually is higher than coal or gas due to the complexity of processing the fuel.
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Electric doesnt work for cars yet, too unreliable, slow to charge, limited range. It just cant deliver what petrol or alcohol can. The cost of nuclear is without accidents though, just the price per kilowatt, it actually is higher than coal or gas due to the complexity of processing the fuel.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
Electric doesnt work for cars yet, too unreliable, slow to charge, limited range. It just cant deliver what petrol or alcohol can.
The range is limited - but most drives are rather short. Tesla sales would seem to prove you wrong. The one parked outside my office window (not mine, alas) has a rather happy owner. As for the cost of nuclear? It is not as cheap as hydro=electric, but I live in a fossil fuel supplied area and I assure you, having amongst the highest electric rates in the USA, it is not more expensive than nuclear. Furthermore, nuclear generated electricity is stably priced as it doesn't need refueling very often and thus rather immune to price fluctuations from market speculators and wars and stuff. The processing of the fuel - technology available in the 1940's - isn't not that complex. Using breeder reactors it becomes even easier and availability of fuel increases tremendously. (From 0.72 % U235 of natural abundance). We'd hardly have to mine the stuff in that case.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
Electric doesnt work for cars yet, too unreliable, slow to charge, limited range. It just cant deliver what petrol or alcohol can.
The range is limited - but most drives are rather short. Tesla sales would seem to prove you wrong. The one parked outside my office window (not mine, alas) has a rather happy owner. As for the cost of nuclear? It is not as cheap as hydro=electric, but I live in a fossil fuel supplied area and I assure you, having amongst the highest electric rates in the USA, it is not more expensive than nuclear. Furthermore, nuclear generated electricity is stably priced as it doesn't need refueling very often and thus rather immune to price fluctuations from market speculators and wars and stuff. The processing of the fuel - technology available in the 1940's - isn't not that complex. Using breeder reactors it becomes even easier and availability of fuel increases tremendously. (From 0.72 % U235 of natural abundance). We'd hardly have to mine the stuff in that case.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
You probably have green taxes on your coal supplied electricity pushing the price up. But I havent been keeping up with the prices, perhaps nuclear has come down (my understanding is based on prices I saw probably 20 years ago). THe question is how well does an electric car do in 20 years? Can it still hold a charge? New batteries every 7 years could be a major problem, and I believe it is.