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If you could live forever, would you want to?

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  • D den2k88

    If I can retain my physical health and my mental health then I would live for at least a thousand years. There's so much to learn and see...

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    dandy72
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    ...yet there still won't be enough time to meet deadlines.

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    • L Leng Vang

      I get your point. Coding is my hobby and I too passed up on management offer. The idea of going to work and just talk to people, sitting through mind numbing meetings after meetings and writing reports is not my idea of fun. For retirement, as the way economy is going, most of us would not be able to retire. Social Security may be dried up by the time we get to call it permanent vacation. I will work until I dropped dead on my keyboard. :laugh:

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      dandy72
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      Leng Vang wrote:

      For retirement, as the way economy is going, most of us would not be able to retire. Social Security may be dried up by the time we get to call it permanent vacation.

      I've *always* taken for granted this is actually going to be the case. If there's anything left, don't want it to live on, I want it purely as a bonus. I have some retired acquaintances who are living miserably (no other way to put it) with whatever the government decides they're allowed. I don't want that for me.

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      • L Leng Vang

        Monetary concept may not live pass the next 100 years. ;)

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        dandy72
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        So we'll do things purely "...in pursuit of higher goals"? Yeah, as much as I like Star Trek's optimism, Gene Roddenberry dropped the ball on that one. This ain't happening.

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        • F Forogar

          Assuming a new medical breakthrough allowed you to live as long as you like, barring accidents and murders, how long would be long enough? What problems, apart from having to deal with Y10K issues (still probably in COBOL) do you see coming up?

          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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          Mark_Wallace
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          Only if I get to choose who else can join the club.

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          • F Forogar

            I still dream of having my own library at home - and the time to read every single book at my leisure. The library is possible, the leisure time less so - unless I live a loooong time. A physicist friend of mine set up a Faraday Cage around his den (aka basement) so that when his friends came around to talk and play cards or board games they wouldn't ever be interrupted by their cell phones going off. Eventually, as smartphones became ubiquitous they noticed that they couldn't check things with google, etc. and kept running upstairs to get a signal rather than just doing without the answer instantaneously. I was the only one apart from him that didn't do this so we ended up getting new, older friends instead. The young ones couldn't take it! :cool:

            - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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            Forogar wrote:

            A physicist friend of mine set up a Faraday Cage around his den (aka basement) so that when his friends came around to talk and play cards or board games they wouldn't ever be interrupted by their cell phones going off.

            I have been considering something similar, but never learned enough about signal propagation to know how to do it properly. How realistic is it to make a successful shield? The elevator at my workplace has a steel ceiling, steel walls, steel door, and I assume there is steel in the floor as well. It is a closed box of steel. I am not sure how good the grounding of the steel is. Even without grounding, I would expect at least some weakening of the mobile signals, but the signal indicator is at top of the scale all the time, even with the elevator going down to the basement. So what does it take to make an effective shield against the signals? Is an ungrounded shield completely worthless - is that why the steel box elevator does "nothing" to weaken the signals? Is a mesh better than solid steel plates? If it is: Should the mesh size be selected according to the frequency? Cellular phones use a good handful of frequency bands, so do you need different meshes for each band? Maybe we are wasted in this country: We expect excellent mobile coverage everywhere, from deep sub-basements to wilderness mountain plains a hundred kilometers away from any signs of civilization. We expect capacity to be unlimited, and signal strength to be at top of the scale, everywhere. Maybe successful shielding is possible at some desolate mountain farm in an area where no mountain hiker ever goes (i.e. noone needs to update their FB profile with their most recent mountain climbing achievements). But how realistic is it to shiels cellular signals in a rural area?

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            • F Forogar

              Assuming a new medical breakthrough allowed you to live as long as you like, barring accidents and murders, how long would be long enough? What problems, apart from having to deal with Y10K issues (still probably in COBOL) do you see coming up?

              - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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              Abbas A Ali
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              Depends on so many things... But given everything else remains the same, I'd wanna be alive as long as someone I love or care about is around. As soon as no one is, I'd rather stop being alive!

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              • F Forogar

                Assuming a new medical breakthrough allowed you to live as long as you like, barring accidents and murders, how long would be long enough? What problems, apart from having to deal with Y10K issues (still probably in COBOL) do you see coming up?

                - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                Member 9167057
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                I'd say, after 3 or so thousand years, you'd have seen all there is (new tech is fine & dandy but in the grand picture, everything develops in a spiral, not a straight line) so life would become rather boring.

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                • L Lost User

                  If I put 10K in an index fund at let's say 5% annually, what would that be in 1000 years?

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                  MKJCP
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                  In the long, long, run common rate of return assumptions just wont pan out. Story made short: Two descendents of two men find a 2000 year old scroll that is a document of one shekel loan at 8% annually between their ancestors, never paid back. The one descendent decides to make good to the other on the ancient debt only to find that the cost of the compounded interest is a ball of gold bigger than the sun.

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                  • F Forogar

                    Assuming a new medical breakthrough allowed you to live as long as you like, barring accidents and murders, how long would be long enough? What problems, apart from having to deal with Y10K issues (still probably in COBOL) do you see coming up?

                    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                    Rollin Shultz
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                    On one hand I would love to develop skills for hundreds of years and truly master them, and on the other hand after being around already 64 years I have lost pets to old age and those times hurt.

                    Motto: Ask for help when needed, give help when asked, and remember where you came from.

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                    • F Forogar

                      Assuming a new medical breakthrough allowed you to live as long as you like, barring accidents and murders, how long would be long enough? What problems, apart from having to deal with Y10K issues (still probably in COBOL) do you see coming up?

                      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                      Slow Eddie
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                      Read Robert Heinlein's "Lazarus Long" series of books. They are a really great series on that topic.

                      I don't want to live forever. Just long enough to pay off all of my credit card debt.

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                      • F Forogar

                        Assuming a new medical breakthrough allowed you to live as long as you like, barring accidents and murders, how long would be long enough? What problems, apart from having to deal with Y10K issues (still probably in COBOL) do you see coming up?

                        - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                        Steve Naidamast
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                        Who really wants to live forever?

                        Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com

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                        • F Forogar

                          Assuming a new medical breakthrough allowed you to live as long as you like, barring accidents and murders, how long would be long enough? What problems, apart from having to deal with Y10K issues (still probably in COBOL) do you see coming up?

                          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                          sasadler
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                          If we're limited to the Earth, no. I would think the old proverb 'familiarity breeds contempt' would hold true. Eventually you'd have seen everything and pretty much done everything to do, so why stick around? Heh, everyone would be a know it all, and you know how hard it to be around them!

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                          • S Slow Eddie

                            Read Robert Heinlein's "Lazarus Long" series of books. They are a really great series on that topic.

                            I don't want to live forever. Just long enough to pay off all of my credit card debt.

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                            Forogar
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                            Apparently someone thinks a recommendation of a series on books that were first printed in the previous millennium is spam. That person obviously likes following rules slavishly. :doh: Good books, by the way. I've read all of them.

                            - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                            • S Slow Eddie

                              Read Robert Heinlein's "Lazarus Long" series of books. They are a really great series on that topic.

                              I don't want to live forever. Just long enough to pay off all of my credit card debt.

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                              sasadler
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                              The Honor Harrington series, by David Weber, also gets into the effects of longevity.

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                              • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                That depends. Does this treatment halt, or reverse, physical and mental decline? Or do we get to look forward to 900 years of senility, arthritis, and getting up ten times a night to pee? (Although I supposed getting up ten times a night is better than not getting up. :) ) Also, how much does it cost? If you're still paying off the cost of treatment as a quincentenarian, then it doesn't sound like a good deal. Even worse if you have to regularly repeat the treatment.


                                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                Daniel R Przybylski
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                                Now this person watches The Twilight Zone.

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                                • R Rage

                                  Well, I would sit back and watch the humanity go on destroying itself until it is not amusing anymore. So about ten years from now.

                                  Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                                  M chael Luna
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                                  It already stopped being amusing.

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                                  • F Forogar

                                    Assuming a new medical breakthrough allowed you to live as long as you like, barring accidents and murders, how long would be long enough? What problems, apart from having to deal with Y10K issues (still probably in COBOL) do you see coming up?

                                    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                    M chael Luna
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                                    Yesterday

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                                    • F Forogar

                                      Assuming a new medical breakthrough allowed you to live as long as you like, barring accidents and murders, how long would be long enough? What problems, apart from having to deal with Y10K issues (still probably in COBOL) do you see coming up?

                                      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                      Sucramsy
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                                      I'm already tired of being a responsible adult...

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                                      • F Forogar

                                        Assuming a new medical breakthrough allowed you to live as long as you like, barring accidents and murders, how long would be long enough? What problems, apart from having to deal with Y10K issues (still probably in COBOL) do you see coming up?

                                        - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                        Bruce Patin
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                                        It all depends on whether or not there is a purpose for continuing in this body. I am not my body.

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                                        • F Forogar

                                          Assuming a new medical breakthrough allowed you to live as long as you like, barring accidents and murders, how long would be long enough? What problems, apart from having to deal with Y10K issues (still probably in COBOL) do you see coming up?

                                          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                          Greg Lovekamp
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                                          I am financially planning to reach 80 though I honestly doubt that I'll make 24 more years: overweight, inactive, diabetic, etc. I have already thanked my doctor for achieving the goal I requested of him many years ago: keep me alive until my kids are adults. I pointed out the rest is just gravy to me; however, he contends that, like most, I will become greedy for more life as I get older. Time will tell, but any way you look at it, there are a LOT more years in the rearview mirror than ahead through the windshield, and I am fine with that. Tuesday, January 19, 2038, might be a concern for any 32-bit systems remaining. That's coming sooner than we might think, and heck, I might live to see it.

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