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  • Z ZurdoDev

    If you wanted the content on a paid site and found a way to get the content without paying, I think most would agree that is wrong. Why is ad-blocking any different?

    Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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    Basildane
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    Here are some points. You may not agree with them, that's ok with me. The Internet was not created to be an advertising platform for scumbags. The vast majority of websites are nothing but click-bait to try and attract people so they can push ads. If you created a website with the goal of pushing ads, then you should take it down. This is not what the web was designed for. Go away. Sites like these are just trash. I've been a network engineer since the 'net was telnet and gopher, and many servers didn't even have passwords. You could just log into them. That was before "marketing people" discovered that the Internet would be cheap way to exploit people. With VERY few exceptions, I have not seen any advertising since around 1999. Finally, the Internet was created for the free exchange of information. NOT MARKETING. I'm not saying that marketing should be illegal, I'm saying that your opinion that the Internet is a giant advertising platform is wrong. And we will fight it until our last breaths.

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      Because taking something you are not authorized to is not the same as refusing to accept things you do not want.

      "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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      ZurdoDev
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      Rick York wrote:

      you are not authorized to

      So, if a website explicitly said that you must accept ads, then you would use no adblocker?

      Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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      • B Basildane

        Here are some points. You may not agree with them, that's ok with me. The Internet was not created to be an advertising platform for scumbags. The vast majority of websites are nothing but click-bait to try and attract people so they can push ads. If you created a website with the goal of pushing ads, then you should take it down. This is not what the web was designed for. Go away. Sites like these are just trash. I've been a network engineer since the 'net was telnet and gopher, and many servers didn't even have passwords. You could just log into them. That was before "marketing people" discovered that the Internet would be cheap way to exploit people. With VERY few exceptions, I have not seen any advertising since around 1999. Finally, the Internet was created for the free exchange of information. NOT MARKETING. I'm not saying that marketing should be illegal, I'm saying that your opinion that the Internet is a giant advertising platform is wrong. And we will fight it until our last breaths.

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        ZurdoDev
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        Basildane wrote:

        the Internet was created for the free exchange of information. NOT MARKETING.

        And things evolve. Should everything on Amazon.com be free? :-D

        Basildane wrote:

        your opinion that the Internet is a giant advertising platform is wrong.

        Of course it's wrong. And it's not even my opinion. Why would you think it is?

        Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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        • B Basildane

          Here are some points. You may not agree with them, that's ok with me. The Internet was not created to be an advertising platform for scumbags. The vast majority of websites are nothing but click-bait to try and attract people so they can push ads. If you created a website with the goal of pushing ads, then you should take it down. This is not what the web was designed for. Go away. Sites like these are just trash. I've been a network engineer since the 'net was telnet and gopher, and many servers didn't even have passwords. You could just log into them. That was before "marketing people" discovered that the Internet would be cheap way to exploit people. With VERY few exceptions, I have not seen any advertising since around 1999. Finally, the Internet was created for the free exchange of information. NOT MARKETING. I'm not saying that marketing should be illegal, I'm saying that your opinion that the Internet is a giant advertising platform is wrong. And we will fight it until our last breaths.

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          dandy72
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          Basildane wrote:

          your opinion that the Internet is a giant advertising platform is wrong.

          Completely agree that it's not what it was created for, but denying it's what it turned into nonetheless sounds kinda naïve at this point.

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          • Z ZurdoDev

            Basildane wrote:

            the Internet was created for the free exchange of information. NOT MARKETING.

            And things evolve. Should everything on Amazon.com be free? :-D

            Basildane wrote:

            your opinion that the Internet is a giant advertising platform is wrong.

            Of course it's wrong. And it's not even my opinion. Why would you think it is?

            Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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            realJSOP
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            ZurdoDev wrote:

            Should everything on Amazon.com be free?

            Abso-f*cking-lutely!

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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              ZurdoDev wrote:

              Should everything on Amazon.com be free?

              Abso-f*cking-lutely!

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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              ZurdoDev
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              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

              Abso-f*cking-lutely!

              Are you sure? :-D

              Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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              • B Basildane

                Here are some points. You may not agree with them, that's ok with me. The Internet was not created to be an advertising platform for scumbags. The vast majority of websites are nothing but click-bait to try and attract people so they can push ads. If you created a website with the goal of pushing ads, then you should take it down. This is not what the web was designed for. Go away. Sites like these are just trash. I've been a network engineer since the 'net was telnet and gopher, and many servers didn't even have passwords. You could just log into them. That was before "marketing people" discovered that the Internet would be cheap way to exploit people. With VERY few exceptions, I have not seen any advertising since around 1999. Finally, the Internet was created for the free exchange of information. NOT MARKETING. I'm not saying that marketing should be illegal, I'm saying that your opinion that the Internet is a giant advertising platform is wrong. And we will fight it until our last breaths.

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                MarkTJohnson
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                Basildane wrote:

                Finally, the Internet was created for the free exchange of information. NOT MARKETING

                Marketing doesn't fall under free speech? So, you saw an advertisement, how were you harmed in that?

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                  Google (who make money from advertising) are proposing changes to their Chrome plug-in APIs to improve performance (not to block advertising; where they make their money). The proposed update is to make the web streams available to plug-ins (that might include ad-blockers) read-only so that plug-ins (that might include ad blockers) can no longer update the html that is in the browser. This change will greatly improve the performance of plug-ins (that might include ad-blockers) with the completely unintended consequence that some plug-ins (like ad-blockers) will stop working and will stop being able to block adverts (where google makes its money). 1 Gain majority market share 2 Don't be evil 3 ???? 4 Profit Manifest V3 - Google Docs[^]

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                  RickZeeland
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                  For anyone looking for an alternative to AdBlockPlus, here is a list: https://www.slant.co/topics/6946/~ad-blockers[^]

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                  • M MarkTJohnson

                    Basildane wrote:

                    Finally, the Internet was created for the free exchange of information. NOT MARKETING

                    Marketing doesn't fall under free speech? So, you saw an advertisement, how were you harmed in that?

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                    realJSOP
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                    Marketing isn't the "free exchange of ideas". And the internet wasn't invented to promote free speech.

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                    • R realJSOP

                      Solution - use your hosts file to redirect ad content urls to 0.0.0.0 I use the hosts file from this site: Blocking Unwanted Connections with a Hosts File[^]

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                      rnbergren
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                      love this. Thanks

                      To err is human to really mess up you need a computer

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                      • R realJSOP

                        Marketing isn't the "free exchange of ideas". And the internet wasn't invented to promote free speech.

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                        MarkTJohnson
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                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                        And the internet wasn't invented to promote free speech.

                        True. It was an US DoD idea. Created to defend free speech?

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                        • M MarkTJohnson

                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                          And the internet wasn't invented to promote free speech.

                          True. It was an US DoD idea. Created to defend free speech?

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                          realJSOP
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                          More like to alert the government when subversives (aka patriots) used it to criticise the government. :/

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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