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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    They're kinda pricey compared to enclosures for normal SSDs. Expect to spend at least $30, and more often than not, $50-60. I have a Samsung 960 EVO 500gb still in the box because I don't have an enclosure yet.

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    Lost User
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    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

    They're kinda pricey compared to enclosures for normal SSDs. Expect to spend at least $30, and more often than not, $50-60. I have a Samsung 960 EVO 500gb still in the box because I don't have an enclosure yet.

    Got my mSATA/M2 to SATA/USB adapter for either AUD$20.00 or AUD25.00, the shop had them on the shelf.

    Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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    • M Mark_Wallace

      I'm beginning to see that -- and the fact that there are at least three different connector formats, so it's best to buy the cards first, and then the enclosures to match. You might be lucky on price, though, because it looks like this[^] could be right for your one (if you're willing to wait a few weeks for delivery).

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      The good thing about standards ... and so on. I had my university education learning networking from the first edition of the Tanenbaum book that expressed this lament, years before it became a commonly known adage. For those without access to the book: Tanenbaum made the remark to those very minor, yet very significant, differences between the HDLC link level protocol and IBMs SDLC line level protocol. Personal note: I decided to give up my belief in SCSI as a future standard when I had to pay aorund USD 60 for another SCSI cable for the ninth SCSI plug in my computer setups, and the guy behind the counter said "You are lucky - there are fourteen different SCSI plugs, all defined as 'standard'".

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        Mark_Wallace wrote:

        That depends on the SSD card. Some laptop ones don't use standard SATA connectors, and have to be mounted in the laptop[^].

        Don't you have an mSATA/M2 to USB adapter in your kit bag? I have one in my laptop bag at all times along with several other adapters that come in handy.

        Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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        Michael Martin wrote:

        Don't you have an mSATA/M2 to USB adapter in your kit bag?

        Not yet. Give it a couple of days.

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          Munchies_Matt wrote:

          ...but using the latest Hierens bot CD the SSD didnt show up in disk manager...

          If that was from within the XP in Hiren's it probably didn't have the drivers that enable your disk controller to be seen. Check out Sergei Strelec Sergei Strelec - Загрузочные диски[^], look for English version at the end of the description, click it and on the next page scroll down to Downloads, click MEGA, click the big red Download button and Bob's your mother's brother. Burn to USB and boot to Windows 10 environment so you should be able to see everything on modern hardware.

          Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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          Munchies_Matt
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          It is WIndows PE 10 on the latest Hierens (that works with UEFI), so the same as in your link. So perhaps the SSD is just cache, and not bootable disk. The BIOS only shows one boot option, 'Ubuntu', after that IPv4, and IPv6. Since I had Ubuntu instaled as the main OS(which had windows boot in grub, and the windows boot then gave me windows 10 or 7), and the BIOS cant find any MBR, it is the ubuntu one which is damaged, so I am looking at trying to repair it, but thanks for the tip

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            Munchies_Matt wrote:

            ...but using the latest Hierens bot CD the SSD didnt show up in disk manager...

            If that was from within the XP in Hiren's it probably didn't have the drivers that enable your disk controller to be seen. Check out Sergei Strelec Sergei Strelec - Загрузочные диски[^], look for English version at the end of the description, click it and on the next page scroll down to Downloads, click MEGA, click the big red Download button and Bob's your mother's brother. Burn to USB and boot to Windows 10 environment so you should be able to see everything on modern hardware.

            Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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            Hiren updated to Win10 too. Have a look: Hiren's BootCD PE[^]

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            Hiren’s BootCD PE (Preinstallation Environment) is a restored edition of Hiren’s BootCD based on Windows 10 PE x64

            only problem...

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            It is being developed for the new age computers, it supports UEFI booting and requires minimum 2 GB RAM.

            What I do like most... the old versions list Old Versions – Hiren's BootCD PE[^] Kudos for the people supporting the project.

            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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              Hiren updated to Win10 too. Have a look: Hiren's BootCD PE[^]

              Quote:

              Hiren’s BootCD PE (Preinstallation Environment) is a restored edition of Hiren’s BootCD based on Windows 10 PE x64

              only problem...

              Quote:

              It is being developed for the new age computers, it supports UEFI booting and requires minimum 2 GB RAM.

              What I do like most... the old versions list Old Versions – Hiren's BootCD PE[^] Kudos for the people supporting the project.

              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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              Nelek wrote:

              Hiren updated to Win10 too. Have a look: Hiren's BootCD PE[^]

              Thank you, I gave up checking a couple of years ago.

              Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                Nelek wrote:

                Hiren updated to Win10 too. Have a look: Hiren's BootCD PE[^]

                Thank you, I gave up checking a couple of years ago.

                Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                Nelek
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                You are welcome :)

                M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                • M Munchies_Matt

                  It is on UEFI boot, always has been, so that shouldnt be a problem. About the SDD dying, this is what I am tying to establish. If it is the main boot disk then it is odd that a solid state drive should fail.

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                  Plamen Dragiyski
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                  Did you install grub-efi-bin after the Ubuntu installation. The new boot type ignore device discovery and only search for the catalog inside the small UEFI partition. You can put that on your HDD or SSD, but it needs to be GPT, has bootable flag and a proper GUID. 512 MB is usually enough. UEFI multiboot is a pain, not because it is impossible, but it requires so many stuff to be done manually.

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                    It is on UEFI boot, always has been, so that shouldnt be a problem. About the SDD dying, this is what I am tying to establish. If it is the main boot disk then it is odd that a solid state drive should fail.

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                    Plamen Dragiyski
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                    Did you install grub-efi-bin after the Ubuntu installation. The new boot type ignore device discovery and only search for the catalog inside the small UEFI partition. You can put that on your HDD or SSD, but it needs to be GPT, has bootable flag and a proper GUID. 512 MB is usually enough. UEFI multiboot is a pain, not because it is impossible, but it requires so many stuff to be done manually.

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      You don't even need an enclosure - you can connect a SSD directly to any desktop that has a spare SATA port and power connector.

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                      obermd
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                      OriginalGriff wrote:

                      You don't even need an enclosure - you can connect a SSD directly to any desktop that has a spare SATA port and power connector.

                      Not in a Dell laptop. Dell uses the M.2 interface for their laptop SSDs.

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                        It is on UEFI boot, always has been, so that shouldnt be a problem. About the SDD dying, this is what I am tying to establish. If it is the main boot disk then it is odd that a solid state drive should fail.

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                        Kirk 10389821
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                        I have had Crucials DIE on me. SO they can go bad. In fact, the Crucial would BOOT and CRASH. They had a known bug where after X hours of usage, you were limited to like 10 minutes and it would shut down to protect itself. LMAO, not enough time to back it up... UGH, the pain! Overall, if you can see the drive in the BIOS, it is responding. If you are not seeing it in other Operating Systems, it "could" be the driver, or HOW the drive got formatted. Try booting some Backup Software and see what it sees.

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                          Did you install grub-efi-bin after the Ubuntu installation. The new boot type ignore device discovery and only search for the catalog inside the small UEFI partition. You can put that on your HDD or SSD, but it needs to be GPT, has bootable flag and a proper GUID. 512 MB is usually enough. UEFI multiboot is a pain, not because it is impossible, but it requires so many stuff to be done manually.

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                          Munchies_Matt
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                          There wasnt even an EFI partition left on the laptop. Seems there was oe on the SSD drive, but the entire drive (also had windows 10 on the c partition) got wiped. Christ knows how!

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                            I have had Crucials DIE on me. SO they can go bad. In fact, the Crucial would BOOT and CRASH. They had a known bug where after X hours of usage, you were limited to like 10 minutes and it would shut down to protect itself. LMAO, not enough time to back it up... UGH, the pain! Overall, if you can see the drive in the BIOS, it is responding. If you are not seeing it in other Operating Systems, it "could" be the driver, or HOW the drive got formatted. Try booting some Backup Software and see what it sees.

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                            Munchies_Matt
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                            Yeah, I booted with hierens and had a look with diskpart, the SSD had no partitions on it, it had got wiped. So either a banzai windows ip update or failing hardware. At least I know how to fix it now if it screws up again!

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