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    realJSOP
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    Man, they are proud of their stuff... Eeeet 'spensive Lucy. I was playing with their Theme Builder. It doesn't provide anything close to an exhaustive theming experience (colors only, and not even all of them), and some of the results are just plain weird, especially if you want to setup a dark theme. Progress Sass Theme Builder[^] BTW, "Progress" is a STUPID f*ckin name...

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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      Man, they are proud of their stuff... Eeeet 'spensive Lucy. I was playing with their Theme Builder. It doesn't provide anything close to an exhaustive theming experience (colors only, and not even all of them), and some of the results are just plain weird, especially if you want to setup a dark theme. Progress Sass Theme Builder[^] BTW, "Progress" is a STUPID f*ckin name...

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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      kmoorevs
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      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

      Man, they are proud of their stuff

      Currently trying out DevExpress, also proud of their stuff, but very impressed so far. :)

      "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

        Man, they are proud of their stuff

        Currently trying out DevExpress, also proud of their stuff, but very impressed so far. :)

        "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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        Jorgen Andersson
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        They also have impressive support. Or at least had when I used to use them.

        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

          Man, they are proud of their stuff

          Currently trying out DevExpress, also proud of their stuff, but very impressed so far. :)

          "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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          realJSOP
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          Our shop uses Telerik, so there's no hope of changing to something else. :/

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

            Man, they are proud of their stuff

            Currently trying out DevExpress, also proud of their stuff, but very impressed so far. :)

            "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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            Bert Mitton
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            I've used DevExpress for almost a year now... very happy with their product, and support is quite responsive. Minor updates monthly, with 2 majors each year. I've been really glad we pulled the trigger on this one, and if I had to do it again, I wouldn't hesitate.

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              Man, they are proud of their stuff... Eeeet 'spensive Lucy. I was playing with their Theme Builder. It doesn't provide anything close to an exhaustive theming experience (colors only, and not even all of them), and some of the results are just plain weird, especially if you want to setup a dark theme. Progress Sass Theme Builder[^] BTW, "Progress" is a STUPID f*ckin name...

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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              Mark_Wallace
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              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

              BTW, "Progress" is a STUPID f*ckin name...

              It's to make it harder to search for it on the net -- they're following ms' example, and making the UX as uncomfortable and as time-wasting as possible.

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                I've used DevExpress for almost a year now... very happy with their product, and support is quite responsive. Minor updates monthly, with 2 majors each year. I've been really glad we pulled the trigger on this one, and if I had to do it again, I wouldn't hesitate.

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                kmoorevs
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                :thumbsup: Thanks for the input! There is certainly no shortage of videos and code samples for their components. I'm finding the gridview (asp.net) to be fantastic, just having added exports for excel formats in a matter of minutes...worked the first time. :) Very nice indeed!

                "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                  Man, they are proud of their stuff... Eeeet 'spensive Lucy. I was playing with their Theme Builder. It doesn't provide anything close to an exhaustive theming experience (colors only, and not even all of them), and some of the results are just plain weird, especially if you want to setup a dark theme. Progress Sass Theme Builder[^] BTW, "Progress" is a STUPID f*ckin name...

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  Mycroft Holmes
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                  And they want to control your entire development environment with their dashboard thingy. As a now semi retired single developer their stuff is way too expensive to use and their Xamarin tool box did not seem to offer much over the standard controls.

                  Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP

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                    And they want to control your entire development environment with their dashboard thingy. As a now semi retired single developer their stuff is way too expensive to use and their Xamarin tool box did not seem to offer much over the standard controls.

                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP

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                    realJSOP
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                    I created a “telerick ui mvc5 app” and then “configured” it. That caused over 100 “culture” .js files to be added to my project - without being asked first.

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                      Man, they are proud of their stuff... Eeeet 'spensive Lucy. I was playing with their Theme Builder. It doesn't provide anything close to an exhaustive theming experience (colors only, and not even all of them), and some of the results are just plain weird, especially if you want to setup a dark theme. Progress Sass Theme Builder[^] BTW, "Progress" is a STUPID f*ckin name...

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                      -----
                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                      -----
                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                      Lost User
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                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                      It doesn't provide anything close to an exhaustive theming experience (colors only, and not even all of them), and some of the results are just plain weird, especially if you want to setup a dark theme.

                      Like any of the managers would ever notice; it's not like they're interested in functionality. Try the Telerik or DevExpress stuff on a Windows that is set to "high contrast" for visually impaired users, and choose a bit larger font. Still, they make a lot of money with making non-standard stuff that is popular somewhere.

                      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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