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  • P Paul Watson

    Jeremy Falcon wrote: I mean, would you rather hear Matrix Reloaded or watch it? While people are visual by nature that is an unfair comparison. It should be "Would you rather watch the Matrix or listen to Bach #9*." Many people will choose Bach #9 :) * I may have that wrong, but you get the point

    Paul Watson
    Bluegrass
    Cape Town, South Africa

    Vivek Rajan wrote (about the Matrix): I assume they are using low colors because they want faster rendering using cheaper hardware... ...Cmon - atleast use 256 colors...

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    Jeremy Falcon
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    Paul Watson wrote: but you get the point I see what you are saying. Some people may enjoy using their sense of hearing over or just as much as sight. And, I agree with that. The point I was trying to make is that our perception would be confined in this instance – just like it is in the client/coder situation. That’s why I stuck with only referring to a movie. They only know what they see on the screen. They aren’t given the choice of understanding it any other way because they do not know the jargon involved. Jeremy Falcon

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    • P Paul Watson

      Jeremy Falcon wrote: I mean, would you rather hear Matrix Reloaded or watch it? While people are visual by nature that is an unfair comparison. It should be "Would you rather watch the Matrix or listen to Bach #9*." Many people will choose Bach #9 :) * I may have that wrong, but you get the point

      Paul Watson
      Bluegrass
      Cape Town, South Africa

      Vivek Rajan wrote (about the Matrix): I assume they are using low colors because they want faster rendering using cheaper hardware... ...Cmon - atleast use 256 colors...

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      John Honan
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      Paul Watson wrote: Vivek Rajan wrote (about the Matrix): I assume they are using low colors because they want faster rendering using cheaper hardware... ...Cmon - atleast use 256 colors... :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: John www.silveronion.com[^]

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      • J John Honan

        Paul Watson wrote: Vivek Rajan wrote (about the Matrix): I assume they are using low colors because they want faster rendering using cheaper hardware... ...Cmon - atleast use 256 colors... :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: John www.silveronion.com[^]

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        Paul Watson
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        John Honan wrote: :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: I could not let it pass by. Vivek, if you are reading this and feel a bit offended then just tell me and I will pull the sig. I don't mean to ridicule you in anyway, I just thought the statement was funny (in a good humoured way.)

        Paul Watson
        Bluegrass
        Cape Town, South Africa

        Vivek Rajan wrote (about the Matrix): I assume they are using low colors because they want faster rendering using cheaper hardware... ...Cmon - atleast use 256 colors...

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          Paul Watson wrote: but you get the point I see what you are saying. Some people may enjoy using their sense of hearing over or just as much as sight. And, I agree with that. The point I was trying to make is that our perception would be confined in this instance – just like it is in the client/coder situation. That’s why I stuck with only referring to a movie. They only know what they see on the screen. They aren’t given the choice of understanding it any other way because they do not know the jargon involved. Jeremy Falcon

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          Paul Watson
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          Jeremy Falcon wrote: They aren’t given the choice of understanding it any other way because they do not know the jargon involved. Good point and quite true. Just on the general topic I find the biggest problem with users and software is they don't experiment. They are afraid that any click they do wrong will destroy the system, delete unrecoverable data. When I get a new app I go wild with it. I click everything, I try everything, I throw caution to the wind. I learn a lot that way. If I am afraid of something terrible going wrong then a backup is the solution. Users must be shown that experimenting is perfectly fine and there is nothing to be afraid of.

          Paul Watson
          Bluegrass
          Cape Town, South Africa

          Vivek Rajan wrote (about the Matrix): I assume they are using low colors because they want faster rendering using cheaper hardware... ...Cmon - atleast use 256 colors...

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          • P Paul Watson

            John Honan wrote: :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: I could not let it pass by. Vivek, if you are reading this and feel a bit offended then just tell me and I will pull the sig. I don't mean to ridicule you in anyway, I just thought the statement was funny (in a good humoured way.)

            Paul Watson
            Bluegrass
            Cape Town, South Africa

            Vivek Rajan wrote (about the Matrix): I assume they are using low colors because they want faster rendering using cheaper hardware... ...Cmon - atleast use 256 colors...

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            Tom Welch
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            I have been playing WAY TO MUCH Morrowind. I saw your post Vivek and my brain instantly read "Vivic". In fact, today I had that weird thing happen where every bush or shrub on the roadside made me think things like "Roobrush, Hackle-To Leaf, Heather, Kresh Weed". For those of you who don't understand any of this off topic blather consider yourself lucky. Morrowind[^] is crack for the socially inept (i.e. me).

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              Jeremy Falcon wrote: would you rather hear Matrix Reloaded or watch it? Neither. Matt Praise HIM - Unknown

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              Paul Watson
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              Matt Newman wrote: Neither. Your sig adequatley says all I want to say on the matter. ;)

              Paul Watson
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              Vivek Rajan wrote (about the Matrix): I assume they are using low colors because they want faster rendering using cheaper hardware... ...Cmon - atleast use 256 colors...

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              • P Paul Watson

                Matt Newman wrote: Neither. Your sig adequatley says all I want to say on the matter. ;)

                Paul Watson
                Bluegrass
                Cape Town, South Africa

                Vivek Rajan wrote (about the Matrix): I assume they are using low colors because they want faster rendering using cheaper hardware... ...Cmon - atleast use 256 colors...

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                Matt Newman
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                Paul Watson wrote: Your sig adequatley says all I want to say on the matter. Really? I can understand why. Matt BURN HIM! - David Wulff

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                • T Troy Marchand

                  Yeah, I agree with most of what was written. But this idea that non-technical people only look 'skin deep' is not only true for them, but I say it even applies for technical people as well. After more than 10 years in the component software business, I have to say that many clients get more caught up on things such as cool screen shots than the functionality of the components. Troy Marchand VP Product Development Dundas Software

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                  Troy Marchand wrote: But this idea that non-technical people only look 'skin deep' is not only true for them, but I say it even applies for technical people as well. True, although the technical people at least notice the rest. I love "slick" UIs, but I also want the program to get the job done. I tend to think of a software as poor quality if it has a "blah" UI, but I just may end up using it more than a different program with a slicker UI if it gets the job done better. I take to the one with the slick UI first, but I'll be turned off to it if it doesn't do its job. Good UIs make a big difference in the customer's satisfaction, so many companies make slick UI's and then skimp on the functionality. They figure the customers will go for the slick UI and then it will be too late by the time they find out how little it can do, or how hard it is to be productive with it. Then there are the people who make a really good program with a poor UI, and wonder why it doesn't sell well. Really, both aspects should be considered in the design. Right now I'm working on a collection of UI components that are both big on "eye candy" and intuitive/easy to use. :) It's a shame how many really good controls have no way of even changing the colors used to draw the control. :(

                  "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." - Jesus
                  "An eye for an eye only makes the whole world blind." - Mahatma Gandhi

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                  • T Tom Welch

                    I have been playing WAY TO MUCH Morrowind. I saw your post Vivek and my brain instantly read "Vivic". In fact, today I had that weird thing happen where every bush or shrub on the roadside made me think things like "Roobrush, Hackle-To Leaf, Heather, Kresh Weed". For those of you who don't understand any of this off topic blather consider yourself lucky. Morrowind[^] is crack for the socially inept (i.e. me).

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                    Paul Watson
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                    Tom Welch wrote: Morrowind[^] is crack for the socially inept Up until that bit I understood about three words in your entire post. But once you said that I went BING and realised "Ahhh, like CP is to me. Ok." :rolleyes:

                    Paul Watson
                    Bluegrass
                    Cape Town, South Africa

                    Vivek Rajan wrote (about the Matrix): I assume they are using low colors because they want faster rendering using cheaper hardware... ...Cmon - atleast use 256 colors...

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                    • J John Honan

                      For all you developers who've ever complained about customer expectations. :-D For all of you who've ever been stressed out with development deadlines. :~ For everyone who can't stand sitting through meetings with users. :rolleyes: You need to know The Iceberg Secret: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000356.html[^] John www.silveronion.com[^]

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                      ColinDavies
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                      A bit old but it still holds true. Regardz Colin J Davies

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