Backpropagation does not correlate to the brain
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Davies said:
The brain is the one example we have of truly intelligent computation
He must know people that I don't know. But he's giving a straw-man argument. No-one ever said that backpropagation mimics the brain (or if they did, they were misinformed). Nothing we do in AI mimics the brain; none of the AI methodologies -- not even his Holy Grail neural networks, which a lot of poorly informed people have declared as mimicking the brain. The brain works with what is easiest defined as "highly compressed and merged 3D movies with smells and other sensory records attached". We don't have anything of artifice that can even come close to processing brain-level quantities of such data feeds -- Hell, we don't even have data of that kind, let alone the capacity to process it! So he's just talking the usual "what I'm doing is perfect, and what everyone who doesn't do what I'm doing is inferior!" bollocks.
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Davies said:
The brain is the one example we have of truly intelligent computation
He must know people that I don't know. But he's giving a straw-man argument. No-one ever said that backpropagation mimics the brain (or if they did, they were misinformed). Nothing we do in AI mimics the brain; none of the AI methodologies -- not even his Holy Grail neural networks, which a lot of poorly informed people have declared as mimicking the brain. The brain works with what is easiest defined as "highly compressed and merged 3D movies with smells and other sensory records attached". We don't have anything of artifice that can even come close to processing brain-level quantities of such data feeds -- Hell, we don't even have data of that kind, let alone the capacity to process it! So he's just talking the usual "what I'm doing is perfect, and what everyone who doesn't do what I'm doing is inferior!" bollocks.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Agreed. If it was about natural intelligence he might have a point.
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Davies said:
The brain is the one example we have of truly intelligent computation
He must know people that I don't know. But he's giving a straw-man argument. No-one ever said that backpropagation mimics the brain (or if they did, they were misinformed). Nothing we do in AI mimics the brain; none of the AI methodologies -- not even his Holy Grail neural networks, which a lot of poorly informed people have declared as mimicking the brain. The brain works with what is easiest defined as "highly compressed and merged 3D movies with smells and other sensory records attached". We don't have anything of artifice that can even come close to processing brain-level quantities of such data feeds -- Hell, we don't even have data of that kind, let alone the capacity to process it! So he's just talking the usual "what I'm doing is perfect, and what everyone who doesn't do what I'm doing is inferior!" bollocks.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Mark_Wallace wrote:
No-one ever said that backpropagation mimics the brain (or if they did, they were misinformed).
"Deep learning" implies actual learning. If it is measuring successes and keeping score, than I'd have to agree that learning is not the most ideal term to use. --edit I'm not seeking you out, before you get that idea. You simply had a good argument that I wanted to reply to :thumbsup:
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