"Linux is better thought-out than Windows"
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...but if that's the case, some things are definitely falling through the cracks. On many distributions, if I try to shutdown the system at a command prompt (typically with "shutdown -P 0"), I'm told I have to run sudo and I'm prompted for a password. Great feature, you wouldn't want any dumbass you share your computer with to be able to bring it down without showing he's got at least *some* amount of authority. Yet that same user can select Shutdown from the UI, and it'll happily comply without prompting for anything else (or at most, a confirmation prompt). If this was some sort of oversight, it would've been addressed years ago, no?
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...but if that's the case, some things are definitely falling through the cracks. On many distributions, if I try to shutdown the system at a command prompt (typically with "shutdown -P 0"), I'm told I have to run sudo and I'm prompted for a password. Great feature, you wouldn't want any dumbass you share your computer with to be able to bring it down without showing he's got at least *some* amount of authority. Yet that same user can select Shutdown from the UI, and it'll happily comply without prompting for anything else (or at most, a confirmation prompt). If this was some sort of oversight, it would've been addressed years ago, no?
Does the UI shutdown do a graceful one?
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...but if that's the case, some things are definitely falling through the cracks. On many distributions, if I try to shutdown the system at a command prompt (typically with "shutdown -P 0"), I'm told I have to run sudo and I'm prompted for a password. Great feature, you wouldn't want any dumbass you share your computer with to be able to bring it down without showing he's got at least *some* amount of authority. Yet that same user can select Shutdown from the UI, and it'll happily comply without prompting for anything else (or at most, a confirmation prompt). If this was some sort of oversight, it would've been addressed years ago, no?
I think filling in a Sudoku is a nice playful touch :-\
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...but if that's the case, some things are definitely falling through the cracks. On many distributions, if I try to shutdown the system at a command prompt (typically with "shutdown -P 0"), I'm told I have to run sudo and I'm prompted for a password. Great feature, you wouldn't want any dumbass you share your computer with to be able to bring it down without showing he's got at least *some* amount of authority. Yet that same user can select Shutdown from the UI, and it'll happily comply without prompting for anything else (or at most, a confirmation prompt). If this was some sort of oversight, it would've been addressed years ago, no?
Both are still not proper Operating Systems. All flavors of Unix and DOS are just toys.
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...but if that's the case, some things are definitely falling through the cracks. On many distributions, if I try to shutdown the system at a command prompt (typically with "shutdown -P 0"), I'm told I have to run sudo and I'm prompted for a password. Great feature, you wouldn't want any dumbass you share your computer with to be able to bring it down without showing he's got at least *some* amount of authority. Yet that same user can select Shutdown from the UI, and it'll happily comply without prompting for anything else (or at most, a confirmation prompt). If this was some sort of oversight, it would've been addressed years ago, no?
Can't you just download the code and fix it ?
I'd rather be phishing!
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Both are still not proper Operating Systems. All flavors of Unix and DOS are just toys.
VMS Rocks!
I'm currently unsupervised, I know it freaks me out too! JaxCoder.com
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...but if that's the case, some things are definitely falling through the cracks. On many distributions, if I try to shutdown the system at a command prompt (typically with "shutdown -P 0"), I'm told I have to run sudo and I'm prompted for a password. Great feature, you wouldn't want any dumbass you share your computer with to be able to bring it down without showing he's got at least *some* amount of authority. Yet that same user can select Shutdown from the UI, and it'll happily comply without prompting for anything else (or at most, a confirmation prompt). If this was some sort of oversight, it would've been addressed years ago, no?
I guess they figured if you were coming from a Unix/Linux background that's the way it's always been and you should know what to expect. But if you're coming from windows you need all the help you can get...you know the GUI thing and all!
I'm currently unsupervised, I know it freaks me out too! JaxCoder.com
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Both are still not proper Operating Systems. All flavors of Unix and DOS are just toys.
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I guess they figured if you were coming from a Unix/Linux background that's the way it's always been and you should know what to expect. But if you're coming from windows you need all the help you can get...you know the GUI thing and all!
I'm currently unsupervised, I know it freaks me out too! JaxCoder.com
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Does the UI shutdown do a graceful one?
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Can't you just download the code and fix it ?
I'd rather be phishing!
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...but if that's the case, some things are definitely falling through the cracks. On many distributions, if I try to shutdown the system at a command prompt (typically with "shutdown -P 0"), I'm told I have to run sudo and I'm prompted for a password. Great feature, you wouldn't want any dumbass you share your computer with to be able to bring it down without showing he's got at least *some* amount of authority. Yet that same user can select Shutdown from the UI, and it'll happily comply without prompting for anything else (or at most, a confirmation prompt). If this was some sort of oversight, it would've been addressed years ago, no?
The big kids put themselves in the sudoers group. :laugh: Edit: then they type "sudo init 0" (shorter)
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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The big kids put themselves in the sudoers group. :laugh: Edit: then they type "sudo init 0" (shorter)
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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...but if that's the case, some things are definitely falling through the cracks. On many distributions, if I try to shutdown the system at a command prompt (typically with "shutdown -P 0"), I'm told I have to run sudo and I'm prompted for a password. Great feature, you wouldn't want any dumbass you share your computer with to be able to bring it down without showing he's got at least *some* amount of authority. Yet that same user can select Shutdown from the UI, and it'll happily comply without prompting for anything else (or at most, a confirmation prompt). If this was some sort of oversight, it would've been addressed years ago, no?
Seems a bit pointless, to me. I mean, why on Earth would anyone ever want to shut down a computer?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Seems a bit pointless, to me. I mean, why on Earth would anyone ever want to shut down a computer?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Two words: Memory leaks. The MicroVAX 3600 I managed while in college would crash on Tuesday unless I had rebooted it on Friday.
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VMS Rocks!
I'm currently unsupervised, I know it freaks me out too! JaxCoder.com
Hear, hear! /ravi
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Hear, hear! /ravi
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Spent many years on VAX machines, they were/are awesome!
I'm currently unsupervised, I know it freaks me out too! JaxCoder.com
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Two words: Memory leaks. The MicroVAX 3600 I managed while in college would crash on Tuesday unless I had rebooted it on Friday.
Hmm... when I worked at DEC, the uVAX II under my desk ran for months on end without a reboot. And when I did reboot it, it was to install an OS or tool upgrade. /ravi
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Hmm... when I worked at DEC, the uVAX II under my desk ran for months on end without a reboot. And when I did reboot it, it was to install an OS or tool upgrade. /ravi
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Indeed. And later I worked with AlphaServer systems that ran for years without even needing to have our product restarted. I fear the college was running some sub-par third-party software.
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...but if that's the case, some things are definitely falling through the cracks. On many distributions, if I try to shutdown the system at a command prompt (typically with "shutdown -P 0"), I'm told I have to run sudo and I'm prompted for a password. Great feature, you wouldn't want any dumbass you share your computer with to be able to bring it down without showing he's got at least *some* amount of authority. Yet that same user can select Shutdown from the UI, and it'll happily comply without prompting for anything else (or at most, a confirmation prompt). If this was some sort of oversight, it would've been addressed years ago, no?
I suspect if you run the UI remotely it will prompt for a password....
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