Mosque shooting,
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New Zealand shooting video: Gunman shoots people dead at mosque | Daily Mail Online[^] Sick bastard. He was Australian, he deliberately chose NZ because it was peaceful in order to drag it into the chaos other countries are in. I can see this escalating, each side upping the game.
Almost every liberal news outlet here in the States is blaming Trump for this. Go see for yourself. Fucking retards, all of them. The shooter's manifesto states directly, that he wanted to cause a civil war in the U.S. by his mass murder deeds.
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Almost every liberal news outlet here in the States is blaming Trump for this. Go see for yourself. Fucking retards, all of them. The shooter's manifesto states directly, that he wanted to cause a civil war in the U.S. by his mass murder deeds.
Slacker007 wrote:
blaming Trump for this
[New Zealand mosques' attack suspect praised Trump in manifesto | News | Al Jazeera](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/03/zealand-mosques-attack-suspect-praised-trump-manifesto-190315100143150.html) They are not very far from the truth.
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Slacker007 wrote:
blaming Trump for this
[New Zealand mosques' attack suspect praised Trump in manifesto | News | Al Jazeera](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/03/zealand-mosques-attack-suspect-praised-trump-manifesto-190315100143150.html) They are not very far from the truth.
You're smarter than this, aren't you? If the moron had praised you - would you be to blame? :rolleyes:
The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.
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You're smarter than this, aren't you? If the moron had praised you - would you be to blame? :rolleyes:
The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.
I don't spend my time on Twitter writing racist, anti-immigrant comments like Trump does. When someone like Trump has a big audience, at some point someone takes the matter in his own hand and acts. Another example: [Mail bomb suspect appeared to be fervent Trump supporter - POLITICO](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/26/suspicious-package-cory-booker-942400)
Mike Mullikin wrote:
You're smarter than this, aren't you?
Enough to realize what danger this guy represents.
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I don't spend my time on Twitter writing racist, anti-immigrant comments like Trump does. When someone like Trump has a big audience, at some point someone takes the matter in his own hand and acts. Another example: [Mail bomb suspect appeared to be fervent Trump supporter - POLITICO](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/26/suspicious-package-cory-booker-942400)
Mike Mullikin wrote:
You're smarter than this, aren't you?
Enough to realize what danger this guy represents.
Quote me some examples of these racist and anti-immigrant* tweets please. *Please don't conflate illegal aliens to anti-immigrant
The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.
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Quote me some examples of these racist and anti-immigrant* tweets please. *Please don't conflate illegal aliens to anti-immigrant
The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.
I would like to, but it requires some time. Will you act like the other idiot who is never satisfied and disregard the examples I give? Do your own research, or don't do it, I don't care.
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I would like to, but it requires some time. Will you act like the other idiot who is never satisfied and disregard the examples I give? Do your own research, or don't do it, I don't care.
Very Large Brain wrote:
Do your own research, or don't do it, I don't care.
So you got nothing. Figures. :rolleyes:
The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.
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Very Large Brain wrote:
Do your own research, or don't do it, I don't care.
So you got nothing. Figures. :rolleyes:
The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
So you got nothing
Oh no, there are a lot. I just don't not want to waste my time on something you will disregard. You don't believe it? Fine. Like I care.
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
So you got nothing
Oh no, there are a lot. I just don't not want to waste my time on something you will disregard. You don't believe it? Fine. Like I care.
You mean like you're disregarding the fact that Trump is not to blame for some other moron's actions regardless of his praise for Trump. It's the same when some other moron does despicable things "in the name of God". Does that mean God is to blame? Of course not. If so, then neither is Trump to blame. And yeah, I know you don't believe in God. Or at least profess not to believe...
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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New Zealand shooting video: Gunman shoots people dead at mosque | Daily Mail Online[^] Sick bastard. He was Australian, he deliberately chose NZ because it was peaceful in order to drag it into the chaos other countries are in. I can see this escalating, each side upping the game.
Sadly we all have our fundies and right wing nutters. Hopefully he won't reproduce and it may clean the gene pool slightly.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
So you got nothing
Oh no, there are a lot. I just don't not want to waste my time on something you will disregard. You don't believe it? Fine. Like I care.
It's really her fault: Chelsea Clinton Apologizes To Students Who Blame Her For NZ Attack | The Daily Caller[^]
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
So you got nothing
Oh no, there are a lot. I just don't not want to waste my time on something you will disregard. You don't believe it? Fine. Like I care.
People get radicalised for a number of reasons. To blame an individual is simplistic. You need to just look at the psychology of conspiracy believers. Whether it be antivaxers, flat earthers or whatever. They deliberately seek information that support their beliefs and ignores any information that does not support it. It is social media / internet that tends to fed these people twisted views. If anything blame that. Trump may be the biggest idiot president US has ever had, but you cannot just blame him as he will be one of many of these smidgens of facts that have twisted the thinking and actions of wayward individual with obvious mental issues. Let's not forget the poor victims.
A Fine is a Tax for doing something wrong A Tax is a Fine for doing something good.
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Slacker007 wrote:
blaming Trump for this
[New Zealand mosques' attack suspect praised Trump in manifesto | News | Al Jazeera](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/03/zealand-mosques-attack-suspect-praised-trump-manifesto-190315100143150.html) They are not very far from the truth.
But you cant blame Trump because some nut job thinks he is the messiah! Responsibility! Apportion it!
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I don't spend my time on Twitter writing racist, anti-immigrant comments like Trump does. When someone like Trump has a big audience, at some point someone takes the matter in his own hand and acts. Another example: [Mail bomb suspect appeared to be fervent Trump supporter - POLITICO](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/26/suspicious-package-cory-booker-942400)
Mike Mullikin wrote:
You're smarter than this, aren't you?
Enough to realize what danger this guy represents.
Very Large Brain wrote:
Twitter writing racist, anti-immigrant comments like Trump does
And yet you will fail to provide one single example of racism.
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I would like to, but it requires some time. Will you act like the other idiot who is never satisfied and disregard the examples I give? Do your own research, or don't do it, I don't care.
Already? You normally flap your arms about a bit more before running away.
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Sadly we all have our fundies and right wing nutters. Hopefully he won't reproduce and it may clean the gene pool slightly.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
The problem is that islam and the west do not get along, they dislike the others values, and islam explicitly forbids mixing with 'kaffir'. This means there is zero chance of integration, as blacks and whites have, particularly through music. Second and third generation islamic immigrants are often more extreme. This creates more separation, more distrust, and more enmity. The rise in the right, and far right, and whack jobs like this guy, is a reaction. The cause is islam. There are two immediate choices. Civil war in 20 to 30 years, or we buy the houses and businesses off muslims and deport them to their ancestral homes. This isnt a big problem, many retire there, and spend a lot of time there, and this is the fair way to do it. Of course this course is unlikely. A third possibility is that islam polices itself. Defines a line in their ethics which is compatible with western values, and writes a new koran, creating a new western islam, much as we did with christianity. This means Wahabi islam, halal meat, the burkah etc must be rejected by muslims. They must accept womens rights, homosexuals, and mix with jews and christians. Some have already made this transition, but not enough, and are chastised by the bulk of islam, so this is also very unlikely to happen. So it is civil war. This action in NZ is just the start.
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People get radicalised for a number of reasons. To blame an individual is simplistic. You need to just look at the psychology of conspiracy believers. Whether it be antivaxers, flat earthers or whatever. They deliberately seek information that support their beliefs and ignores any information that does not support it. It is social media / internet that tends to fed these people twisted views. If anything blame that. Trump may be the biggest idiot president US has ever had, but you cannot just blame him as he will be one of many of these smidgens of facts that have twisted the thinking and actions of wayward individual with obvious mental issues. Let's not forget the poor victims.
A Fine is a Tax for doing something wrong A Tax is a Fine for doing something good.
I am just blaming Trump. The shooter was also praising Brevik.
RossMW wrote:
Let's not forget the poor victims.
What about trying to prevent such events in the future?
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But you cant blame Trump because some nut job thinks he is the messiah! Responsibility! Apportion it!
I blame his tendency to incite violence.
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Very Large Brain wrote:
Twitter writing racist, anti-immigrant comments like Trump does
And yet you will fail to provide one single example of racism.
Been there, done that. Examples are always denied for whatever reason, or justified. I am tired on wasting my time on this. You don't believe it? Fine. I don't care.
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I blame his tendency to incite violence.
When has he told people to commit acts of violence? Waiting....