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  • M Munchies_Matt

    New Zealand shooting video: Gunman shoots people dead at mosque | Daily Mail Online[^] Sick bastard. He was Australian, he deliberately chose NZ because it was peaceful in order to drag it into the chaos other countries are in. I can see this escalating, each side upping the game.

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    The bigger question is how did he get into the country with all those guns?

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      The bigger question is how did he get into the country with all those guns?

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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      He got them in NZ I believe.

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        He got them in NZ I believe.

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        Nelek
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        Here was said, that he got a weapons license, but not for any of the used / found ones.

        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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          Here was said, that he got a weapons license, but not for any of the used / found ones.

          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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          Munchies_Matt
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          Could be, I dont know much about it TBH.

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            You're smarter than this, aren't you? If the moron had praised you - would you be to blame? :rolleyes:

            The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.

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            ZurdoDev
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            Mike Mullikin wrote:

            You're smarter than this, aren't you?

            I've got plenty of experience with him to tell you no, he is not. :sigh:

            Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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              Very Large Brain wrote:

              Do your own research, or don't do it, I don't care.

              So you got nothing. Figures. :rolleyes:

              The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.

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              ZurdoDev
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              Mike Mullikin wrote:

              So you got nothing

              Of course not. He, nor his sock puppet, never does.

              Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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              • L Le centriste

                I am just blaming Trump. The shooter was also praising Brevik.

                RossMW wrote:

                Let's not forget the poor victims.

                What about trying to prevent such events in the future?

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                ZurdoDev
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                Very Large Brain wrote:

                What about trying to prevent such events in the future?

                What would you propose?

                Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                • R realJSOP

                  The bigger question is how did he get into the country with all those guns?

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                  -----
                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  Mark H2
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                  In a nutshell, as an Australian he could travel & live freely in both Australia & NZ (kind of like USA & Canada?). While here (NZ) he legally got a NZ "A category" firearms license - so he could legally buy rifles, shotguns and semi automatics with maximum 7 round capacity magazine (yep, that includes AR-15s, AK-47s etc). To have a larger capacity mag on the semi-auto's requires an "E category" license and getting that requires more hoop jumping, but not that hard really. He didn't but acquired high capacity magazines one way or another. Illegally, as he didn't hold the correct firearms license. Another thing, when you buy a firearm here, only the seller and the purchaser know thats' what you've bought, firearms themselves are not registered. So no one really knows just who has what at any time. I was surprised to find out that, actually, for all the scorn we give the USA about "gun rights", our gun laws are more open than the USA's. Australia's gun laws mean that he couldn't have bought those types of firearms in Australia.

                  If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can. “We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone "The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone

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                  • M Munchies_Matt

                    He got them in NZ I believe.

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                    Mark H2
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                    Correct.

                    If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can. “We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone "The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone

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                    • N Nelek

                      Here was said, that he got a weapons license, but not for any of the used / found ones.

                      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                      Mark H2
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                      He had a gun license and bought the weapons legally, but the semi-automatics were illegally modified with high capacity magazines (that requires a different gun license than the one he had).

                      If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can. “We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone "The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone

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                      • M Munchies_Matt

                        New Zealand shooting video: Gunman shoots people dead at mosque | Daily Mail Online[^] Sick bastard. He was Australian, he deliberately chose NZ because it was peaceful in order to drag it into the chaos other countries are in. I can see this escalating, each side upping the game.

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                        Mark H2
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                        I'd like to think that as a country and a people we're better than that.

                        If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can. “We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone "The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone

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                        • Z ZurdoDev

                          Very Large Brain wrote:

                          What about trying to prevent such events in the future?

                          What would you propose?

                          Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                          Getting rid of the internet might be a good start....

                          If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can. “We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone "The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone

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                          • M Mark H2

                            I'd like to think that as a country and a people we're better than that.

                            If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can. “We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone "The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone

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                            Munchies_Matt
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                            I do hope so. It is a nice place NZ, I lived there as a kid for a while, hate to see it dragged into the shit storm that Europe is facing. But then you dont have over a million refugees from Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria etc trying to get into your country every year. You also havent had racially motivated paedophile gangs of Pakistani men raping your daughters for decades. There are upwards of 20 to 30 thousand victims. Raped repeatedly, for years and years, and ignored by the police and social services.

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                            • M Mark H2

                              Getting rid of the internet might be a good start....

                              If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can. “We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone "The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone

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                              ZurdoDev
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                              Mark H2 wrote:

                              rid of the internet might be a good start

                              A lot of good would come from that, but I don't see how that would stop shootings.

                              Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                Mark H2 wrote:

                                rid of the internet might be a good start

                                A lot of good would come from that, but I don't see how that would stop shootings.

                                Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                Mark H2
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                                No, it wouldn't stop shootings like this, but it would reduce the instant global platform for these bottom feeders... Side note - the fact that he live streamed the shootings and there were essentially no controls in place by FB to stop it (except wait for someone to report it and then react - too late because people have downloaded it to repost) is under big (relative word as we're a small country in a big world) scrutiny here. Don't know what will come of that - words followed by f**k all action?

                                If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can. “We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone "The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone

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                                • M Munchies_Matt

                                  I do hope so. It is a nice place NZ, I lived there as a kid for a while, hate to see it dragged into the shit storm that Europe is facing. But then you dont have over a million refugees from Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria etc trying to get into your country every year. You also havent had racially motivated paedophile gangs of Pakistani men raping your daughters for decades. There are upwards of 20 to 30 thousand victims. Raped repeatedly, for years and years, and ignored by the police and social services.

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                                  Mark H2
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                                  I guess we have been lucky in that we get to pick and choose who we let in, immigrant or refugee. On the face of it the Islamic refugees etc seem to have moderate outlooks and just damn glad to have been given a place in what we all considered was the safest place in the world.

                                  If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can. “We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone "The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone

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                                  • M Mark H2

                                    I guess we have been lucky in that we get to pick and choose who we let in, immigrant or refugee. On the face of it the Islamic refugees etc seem to have moderate outlooks and just damn glad to have been given a place in what we all considered was the safest place in the world.

                                    If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can. “We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone "The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone

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                                    Munchies_Matt
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                                    Mark H2 wrote:

                                    On the face of it the Islamic refugees etc seem to have moderate outlooks

                                    A boat of refugees was headed for Spain. It was a bit rough, and when they heard one of them praying for calm weather, in a Christian way, they killed him, and the Christians on the boat, and tossed them over the side. The fact is there is nothing moderate about Islam, if the Koran Hadith and Sunna are followed to the letter. What surprises me are so many muslims apply basic human compassion and override the dictates. However roughly a third (Pew statistics) of muslims globally want Sharia law, which is as you know extreme.

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