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    Munchies_Matt
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    First a Maori biker gang, tattooed, probably drug dealers, mostly with criminal records, called Black Power does a Haka outside the mosque, no doubt muslims were looking on thinking 'what the fuck?' and now this: Tearful students perform a moving haka dance outside Christchurch mosque | Daily Mail Online[^] They look to be mostly Maori, but some whites. Is this a case of 'if you arent white, you are my ally' Maoris are displaying here? This is deeply racist of course. And deeply misjudged, Maoris and muslims have zero in common. (except for the usual DNA we all have, and share with other apes, but you know what I mean, I am sure)

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      First a Maori biker gang, tattooed, probably drug dealers, mostly with criminal records, called Black Power does a Haka outside the mosque, no doubt muslims were looking on thinking 'what the fuck?' and now this: Tearful students perform a moving haka dance outside Christchurch mosque | Daily Mail Online[^] They look to be mostly Maori, but some whites. Is this a case of 'if you arent white, you are my ally' Maoris are displaying here? This is deeply racist of course. And deeply misjudged, Maoris and muslims have zero in common. (except for the usual DNA we all have, and share with other apes, but you know what I mean, I am sure)

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      Munchies_Matt wrote:

      Is this a case of 'if you arent white, you are my ally' Maoris are displaying here?

      As far as I'm aware, they're just showing solidarity with people who've been attacked. I haven't heard them say anything anti-white.

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        Munchies_Matt wrote:

        Is this a case of 'if you arent white, you are my ally' Maoris are displaying here?

        As far as I'm aware, they're just showing solidarity with people who've been attacked. I haven't heard them say anything anti-white.

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        A Maori biker gang called Black Power? You arent suspicious? You think this is normal? Because I am pretty sure the Hells Angels dont give a damn.

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          First a Maori biker gang, tattooed, probably drug dealers, mostly with criminal records, called Black Power does a Haka outside the mosque, no doubt muslims were looking on thinking 'what the fuck?' and now this: Tearful students perform a moving haka dance outside Christchurch mosque | Daily Mail Online[^] They look to be mostly Maori, but some whites. Is this a case of 'if you arent white, you are my ally' Maoris are displaying here? This is deeply racist of course. And deeply misjudged, Maoris and muslims have zero in common. (except for the usual DNA we all have, and share with other apes, but you know what I mean, I am sure)

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          A lot of those students look white/Caucasian to me.

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            A lot of those students look white/Caucasian to me.

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            Do you know what Maoris look like? They arent that dark, they are often fat, have short legs, and a complexion a bit like that of an Italian, or French man. THis is of course based entirely on my time in NZ as a kid. :)

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              A Maori biker gang called Black Power? You arent suspicious? You think this is normal? Because I am pretty sure the Hells Angels dont give a damn.

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              The name is certainly suspicious, I'll give you that.

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                A Maori biker gang called Black Power? You arent suspicious? You think this is normal? Because I am pretty sure the Hells Angels dont give a damn.

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                Munchies_Matt wrote:

                Because I am pretty sure the Hells Angels dont give a damn.

                Hells Angels will not dance to call down the Gods, after an attack on a Mosque. It doesn't look like a demonstration against any color, but a reaction to the attack.

                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                  Do you know what Maoris look like? They arent that dark, they are often fat, have short legs, and a complexion a bit like that of an Italian, or French man. THis is of course based entirely on my time in NZ as a kid. :)

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                  So, Maoris look like the Swedish blonde in the picture? :D

                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                    So, Maoris look like the Swedish blonde in the picture? :D

                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                    Having trouble with 'but some whites' eh?

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                      Munchies_Matt wrote:

                      Because I am pretty sure the Hells Angels dont give a damn.

                      Hells Angels will not dance to call down the Gods, after an attack on a Mosque. It doesn't look like a demonstration against any color, but a reaction to the attack.

                      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                      Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                      Hells Angels will not dance to call down the Gods, after an attack on a Mosque.

                      Yes, that WAS my point Eddie.

                      Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                      doesn't look like a demonstration against any color

                      Except the biker gang was called Black Power. Pretty sure they arent referring to enamelled motorcycle parts....

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                        Having trouble with 'but some whites' eh?

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                        No, but also not in the mood to pretend that it is a black power-thing :thumbsup:

                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                          No, but also not in the mood to pretend that it is a black power-thing :thumbsup:

                          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                          Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                          not in the mood to pretend that it is a black power-thing

                          Er, the biker gang is called 'Black Power' Eddie. It is a bit of a give away you know, no need to pretend, just read the words.

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                            Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                            Hells Angels will not dance to call down the Gods, after an attack on a Mosque.

                            Yes, that WAS my point Eddie.

                            Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                            doesn't look like a demonstration against any color

                            Except the biker gang was called Black Power. Pretty sure they arent referring to enamelled motorcycle parts....

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                            Munchies_Matt wrote:

                            Yes, that WAS my point Eddie.

                            Your point was that the Angels don't care, and that this BP does. I'm pointing out that calling domestic gods in front of a muslim temple might not be a typical motor-gang thing.

                            Munchies_Matt wrote:

                            Except the biker gang was called Black Power. Pretty sure they arent referring to enamelled motorcycle parts....

                            So what? Was it a closed BP-thing? Doesn't look like it. Was it a Black Power-statement? Nope, wouldn't make much sense either. Was it a normal reaction against violence? Yes :thumbsup:

                            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                              Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                              not in the mood to pretend that it is a black power-thing

                              Er, the biker gang is called 'Black Power' Eddie. It is a bit of a give away you know, no need to pretend, just read the words.

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                              Nah, that's only in your universe :) It takes quite some imagination to see this as the forming of an alliance between Maori and Muslims.

                              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                Yes, that WAS my point Eddie.

                                Your point was that the Angels don't care, and that this BP does. I'm pointing out that calling domestic gods in front of a muslim temple might not be a typical motor-gang thing.

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                                Except the biker gang was called Black Power. Pretty sure they arent referring to enamelled motorcycle parts....

                                So what? Was it a closed BP-thing? Doesn't look like it. Was it a Black Power-statement? Nope, wouldn't make much sense either. Was it a normal reaction against violence? Yes :thumbsup:

                                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                normal reaction against violence? Ye

                                :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Photos of New Zealand's notorious Maori 'Black Power' gang | Daily Mail Online[^] "The nation-wide gang is known for their bloody and decades-long rivalry with the Mongrel Mob" Hmm, yes, so peaceful arent they. :)

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                                  Nah, that's only in your universe :) It takes quite some imagination to see this as the forming of an alliance between Maori and Muslims.

                                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                  So you accept Black Power is about black power? OK, as for this violent Maori gang, and yes, their violence is well known, supporting muslims. Why is that, what have they got in common? Drugs? Extortion? Hatred of the Mongrels? What is it?

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                                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                    normal reaction against violence? Ye

                                    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Photos of New Zealand's notorious Maori 'Black Power' gang | Daily Mail Online[^] "The nation-wide gang is known for their bloody and decades-long rivalry with the Mongrel Mob" Hmm, yes, so peaceful arent they. :)

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                                    Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                    "The nation-wide gang is known for their bloody and decades-long rivalry with the Mongrel Mob" Hmm, yes, so peaceful arent they. :)

                                    And now also for initiating dancing in front of Muslims :D ..but since they're bikers, you pretty sure of yourself it is an act of violence that should be distrusted.

                                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                      So you accept Black Power is about black power? OK, as for this violent Maori gang, and yes, their violence is well known, supporting muslims. Why is that, what have they got in common? Drugs? Extortion? Hatred of the Mongrels? What is it?

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                                      Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                      So you accept Black Power is about black power?

                                      Ah, yes; but that doesn't mean that a dance initiated by a member is automagically a BP thing :)

                                      Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                      OK, as for this violent Maori gang, and yes, their violence is well known, supporting muslims. Why is that, what have they got in common? Drugs? Extortion? Hatred of the Mongrels? What is it?

                                      It MIGHT not be a show of support for Muslims in particular, but more a reaction to some bloody event. That is what they have in common; they're all in NZ, and confronted with something that was previously only happening in crazy parts of the world.

                                      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                        Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                        normal reaction against violence? Ye

                                        :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Photos of New Zealand's notorious Maori 'Black Power' gang | Daily Mail Online[^] "The nation-wide gang is known for their bloody and decades-long rivalry with the Mongrel Mob" Hmm, yes, so peaceful arent they. :)

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                                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                        Mongrel Mob

                                        Who dat?

                                        #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                                          Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                          "The nation-wide gang is known for their bloody and decades-long rivalry with the Mongrel Mob" Hmm, yes, so peaceful arent they. :)

                                          And now also for initiating dancing in front of Muslims :D ..but since they're bikers, you pretty sure of yourself it is an act of violence that should be distrusted.

                                          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                          The Haka, an act of peace? Do you really know so little? :) It is a war dance Eddie.

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