Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Code Project
  1. Home
  2. The Lounge
  3. Why a Progressive Web App is called..

Why a Progressive Web App is called..

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved The Lounge
question
25 Posts 14 Posters 0 Views 1 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • N Nand32

    a Progressive Web App?

    P Offline
    P Offline
    Peter_in_2780
    wrote on last edited by
    #2

    For the same reason incurable diseases are called progressive.

    Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012

    N 1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • P Peter_in_2780

      For the same reason incurable diseases are called progressive.

      Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012

      N Offline
      N Offline
      Nand32
      wrote on last edited by
      #3

      :-D

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • N Nand32

        a Progressive Web App?

        R Offline
        R Offline
        RickZeeland
        wrote on last edited by
        #4

        It's composed of the words Professional and Agressive :-\

        N 1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • N Nand32

          a Progressive Web App?

          OriginalGriffO Offline
          OriginalGriffO Offline
          OriginalGriff
          wrote on last edited by
          #5

          Because nobody would use it if it was called a "Retarded, Rudimentary, Undeveloped Web App", would they?

          Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

          N 1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            Because nobody would use it if it was called a "Retarded, Rudimentary, Undeveloped Web App", would they?

            Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

            N Offline
            N Offline
            Nand32
            wrote on last edited by
            #6

            :laugh: makes sense :thumbsup:

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • R RickZeeland

              It's composed of the words Professional and Agressive :-\

              N Offline
              N Offline
              Nand32
              wrote on last edited by
              #7

              I feel their Naming idea is so .. Professional and Agressive :rolleyes:

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • N Nand32

                a Progressive Web App?

                F Offline
                F Offline
                Fueled By Decaff
                wrote on last edited by
                #8

                I have never heard the term. I would guess it would mean a work in progress. The new name for a beta version.

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • N Nand32

                  a Progressive Web App?

                  L Offline
                  L Offline
                  Lost User
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #9

                  every idiot (aka Sales/Marketing) is gonna jump on it could have called it a "Web 2.x App" - same effect, hell "Mountain Oyster" would have been even better - everybody likes oysters don't they? OTOH-OT winduds 10 will be 2 years old in April and people are still using it! So old!! c'mon ms, you sleeping on the job? We've had 2 new Androids since wins last version.

                  OriginalGriffO S 2 Replies Last reply
                  0
                  • L Lost User

                    every idiot (aka Sales/Marketing) is gonna jump on it could have called it a "Web 2.x App" - same effect, hell "Mountain Oyster" would have been even better - everybody likes oysters don't they? OTOH-OT winduds 10 will be 2 years old in April and people are still using it! So old!! c'mon ms, you sleeping on the job? We've had 2 new Androids since wins last version.

                    OriginalGriffO Offline
                    OriginalGriffO Offline
                    OriginalGriff
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #10

                    So now you're complaining that Windows is a more stable platform than Android? :laugh:

                    Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

                    L 1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      So now you're complaining that Windows is a more stable platform than Android? :laugh:

                      Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                      L Offline
                      L Offline
                      Lost User
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #11

                      stable eh? hmm, so when are they going to employ someone to shovel out the horse sh...

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • N Nand32

                        a Progressive Web App?

                        N Offline
                        N Offline
                        Nathan Minier
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #12

                        Because a properly written PWA will offer varying service levels depending on which service endpoints it can communicate with. So, an app with no network can still do something. If that app that wants an enclave but only has public internet, it will still have more capabilities than when completely disconnected, while that same app within the enclave will be fully functional.

                        "Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor

                        N M 2 Replies Last reply
                        0
                        • N Nand32

                          a Progressive Web App?

                          R Offline
                          R Offline
                          RickZeeland
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #13

                          For those that want some more information: https://www.slant.co/topics/12815/~pwa-framework[^]

                          N 1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • N Nathan Minier

                            Because a properly written PWA will offer varying service levels depending on which service endpoints it can communicate with. So, an app with no network can still do something. If that app that wants an enclave but only has public internet, it will still have more capabilities than when completely disconnected, while that same app within the enclave will be fully functional.

                            "Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor

                            N Offline
                            N Offline
                            Nand32
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #14

                            :thumbsup:

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • R RickZeeland

                              For those that want some more information: https://www.slant.co/topics/12815/~pwa-framework[^]

                              N Offline
                              N Offline
                              Nand32
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #15

                              So PWA is not just marketing words. I see they have definite frameworks. thanks for the info.:thumbsup:

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • N Nathan Minier

                                Because a properly written PWA will offer varying service levels depending on which service endpoints it can communicate with. So, an app with no network can still do something. If that app that wants an enclave but only has public internet, it will still have more capabilities than when completely disconnected, while that same app within the enclave will be fully functional.

                                "Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor

                                M Offline
                                M Offline
                                Mike Winiberg
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #16

                                So in other words, Progressive Web App is a term that describes some software that has (or at least should have been) properly written? 8)

                                N 1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • M Mike Winiberg

                                  So in other words, Progressive Web App is a term that describes some software that has (or at least should have been) properly written? 8)

                                  N Offline
                                  N Offline
                                  Nathan Minier
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #17

                                  Not by the classic definition of a web application. The general expectation is that when you navigate to a URL and don't have an internet connection, you won't have a useful web application. If you have PWA contents cached, you will still have an application that can be used. It's a pretty fundamental difference.

                                  "Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor

                                  M 1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • N Nand32

                                    a Progressive Web App?

                                    H Offline
                                    H Offline
                                    HuntrCkr
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #18

                                    This is a question I asked myself recently when a client requested this new fangled PWA nonsense :doh: . What does it actually mean, and why would you want it. Turns out, it's actually pretty cool :omg: and let's you do all kinds of stuff like support your webapp working while it's offline or in bad network reception, push messaging, camera and location access, etc. Of course, these technologies are not called PWA, but they fall under the PWA umbrella, ie, Progressively support advanced features without requiring them for your app to work. Where the term then comes from is you write a web app, and then add stuff like offline caching, location awareness, media access in such a way that the app works to some degree at least even if the browser it's viewed from doesn't support those features. Check out Google's work on this for some excellent examples and explanation (with a top notch framework to boot) Google Workbox

                                    N 1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • N Nand32

                                      a Progressive Web App?

                                      M Offline
                                      M Offline
                                      milo xml
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #19

                                      Excellent post. This is why I come here every day :)

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • N Nand32

                                        a Progressive Web App?

                                        C Offline
                                        C Offline
                                        charlieg
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #20

                                        I smell marketing, and it makes me want to see if I stepped in dog poop.... fixed that for me, maybe there is some merit to that...

                                        Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • N Nathan Minier

                                          Not by the classic definition of a web application. The general expectation is that when you navigate to a URL and don't have an internet connection, you won't have a useful web application. If you have PWA contents cached, you will still have an application that can be used. It's a pretty fundamental difference.

                                          "Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor

                                          M Offline
                                          M Offline
                                          Mike Winiberg
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #21

                                          It was a 'tongue-in-cheek' comment... Having said that, there are plenty of simple web pages that will not function off-line (ie if you have them in your browser already, they stop being scrollable or even viewable if the connection is dropped), let alone web apps that can cope with the internet connection being dropped during use. Some years ago now I was producing responsive web-apps that worked even when off-line, with data being uploaded to the host when the connection came back etc, so - as always a label has been attached to something that's been around for a while to make it seem new and exciting... 'Cloud' services anyone? I remember the first MS attempt at this. Indeed such things were already in their formative stages whem I was at Uni in the 70s, but of course called something else... :)

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Tags
                                          • Popular
                                          • World
                                          • Users
                                          • Groups