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  • M Marc Clifton

    ...are becoming more annoying than the ads. I'm referring to various sites other than CP, many are news sites, and many don't even let you continue with the ad-blocker in place unless you subscribe. As the saying goes, nothing is free. We need a blocker for the "you're using an ad-blocker!"

    Latest Article - A 4-Stack rPI Cluster with WiFi-Ethernet Bridging Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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    A lot of those sites will also assume you're using an ad-blocker if you disable JavaScript. I just wish there were some way to make those sites not show up in search results.

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    • M Marc Clifton

      ...are becoming more annoying than the ads. I'm referring to various sites other than CP, many are news sites, and many don't even let you continue with the ad-blocker in place unless you subscribe. As the saying goes, nothing is free. We need a blocker for the "you're using an ad-blocker!"

      Latest Article - A 4-Stack rPI Cluster with WiFi-Ethernet Bridging Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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      GKP1992
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      Marc Clifton wrote:

      We need a blocker for the "you're using an ad-blocker!"

      Also for the popup "XYZ wants to send you notifications. Allow Block". Almost every website you visit starts with this BS.

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      • C Christian Graus

        I'd never use an ad blocker. If a site is free, the ads are paying for it.

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        GuyThiebaut
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        I think ads have a place however there is a point where, for me,they make a site unreadable. Flashing, moving brightly coloured ads on the left and right of a screen when I am trying to read text in the centre of the screen makes it impossible for me to take in any information. Quite literally I am unable to read some pages as I am unable to filter out the ads(particularly animated/video ads) down the sides of the pages. It's a bit like how I am unable to concentrate in noisy offices or when people are loudly banging their cereal bowls in the office. Perhaps it's just me but a simple couple of ads at the top and perhaps bottom of a page is plenty and not distracting. So I use an ad blocker not to remove reasonable ad displays but to remove what, to exaggerate a little, I consider a form of visual abuse.

        “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

        ― Christopher Hitchens

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          I think ads have a place however there is a point where, for me,they make a site unreadable. Flashing, moving brightly coloured ads on the left and right of a screen when I am trying to read text in the centre of the screen makes it impossible for me to take in any information. Quite literally I am unable to read some pages as I am unable to filter out the ads(particularly animated/video ads) down the sides of the pages. It's a bit like how I am unable to concentrate in noisy offices or when people are loudly banging their cereal bowls in the office. Perhaps it's just me but a simple couple of ads at the top and perhaps bottom of a page is plenty and not distracting. So I use an ad blocker not to remove reasonable ad displays but to remove what, to exaggerate a little, I consider a form of visual abuse.

          “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

          ― Christopher Hitchens

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          Christian Graus
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          I don't look at the sort of pages that do those. The one thing I find is sometimes I click a social media site and it comes up insisting I won an iPhone, then I just close it and walk away

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            I don't look at the sort of pages that do those. The one thing I find is sometimes I click a social media site and it comes up insisting I won an iPhone, then I just close it and walk away

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            Christian Graus wrote:

            I don't look at the sort of pages that do those.

            If by social media you mean Facebook, I don't think I have opened a Facebook page for around a year. Some business sites have adopted this spam you with adverts philosophy and unfortunately sometimes the articles are interesting but ruined by those ads. However from what you are saying it sounds like you too have what I would call a reasonable expectation of how ads should be used. I use an adblocker not to block those sites that have an ad at the top or bottom of the page, but to block those sites that are littered with ads.

            “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

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            • G GuyThiebaut

              Christian Graus wrote:

              I don't look at the sort of pages that do those.

              If by social media you mean Facebook, I don't think I have opened a Facebook page for around a year. Some business sites have adopted this spam you with adverts philosophy and unfortunately sometimes the articles are interesting but ruined by those ads. However from what you are saying it sounds like you too have what I would call a reasonable expectation of how ads should be used. I use an adblocker not to block those sites that have an ad at the top or bottom of the page, but to block those sites that are littered with ads.

              “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

              ― Christopher Hitchens

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              I know what you mean - one of the "nice things" about uBlock is that it tells you how many ads it removed: For CP that would be low (I whitelist, but I'm guessing two or three per page) but when the counter gets over twenty there is no way I'll whitelist - I'll just go elsewhere, it's not as if they are the only site with the material. And a high number indicates a much higher interest in "me as advert consumer" than "them as information provider".

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              • G GuyThiebaut

                Christian Graus wrote:

                I don't look at the sort of pages that do those.

                If by social media you mean Facebook, I don't think I have opened a Facebook page for around a year. Some business sites have adopted this spam you with adverts philosophy and unfortunately sometimes the articles are interesting but ruined by those ads. However from what you are saying it sounds like you too have what I would call a reasonable expectation of how ads should be used. I use an adblocker not to block those sites that have an ad at the top or bottom of the page, but to block those sites that are littered with ads.

                “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                ― Christopher Hitchens

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                Christian Graus
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                Yeah, I just don't read those sites :) Once I see those ads, I know the page was written to encourage clicks, not to tell me something true

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                • L Lost User

                  ...these news sites... And why you expect they have the capabilities to deliver all for free?:confused:

                  It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                  0x01AA wrote:

                  And why you expect they have the capabilities to deliver all for free?:confused:

                  Selling cookies. So why is there still a need to sell ads? I wouldn't mind a single short ad, as the news-service here does, but most sites are stuffing in as much as they can get.

                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                  • L Lost User

                    ...these news sites... And why you expect they have the capabilities to deliver all for free?:confused:

                    It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                    That argument only holds if the ads have an effect - i.e. they make me spend money on some service or product. If I am presented for a hundred ads in, say, Thai, it is just a waste of bits and pixels - it makes no sense to me. It is just garbage. So I want it off my screen. Same with US companies selling US products/services on the US market: Even though I can read the English words, I would never have any reason to react to the ad. So it is garbage, in a similar way. You could say "But the news site gets paid for throwing a pile of garbage on your doorstep" - it is none of their business that it is of no intererst to you". Nevertheless, all that garbage annoys me. I can't even consider it product/market "information"; it is not avilable to me. My reactions to "relevant" ads are quite different from all those irrelvant ads. Proposals like "People who bought that product you are looking at, also bought so-and-so" may actually be fine. Also, I think paying for access to news articles is fine. But I see references to at least fifty different news sites a day, maybe a hundred over a week. I cannot pay a hundred subscriptions! But if there was some sort of syndication, maintaining a single account for me, and whenever I read an article on one of the syndicated news sites, a small amount (half a USD? one USD for in-depth articles?) would be charged to this account. But I see not traces of such a mechanism coming up. But I ask myself: Why don't we have browsers that pretend (to the web site) that they show the ads, but simply "forget" to display them on the screen? It would certainly be technically possible to return exactly the same response to the web site, whether the ad was displayed or not.

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                    • G GKP1992

                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                      We need a blocker for the "you're using an ad-blocker!"

                      Also for the popup "XYZ wants to send you notifications. Allow Block". Almost every website you visit starts with this BS.

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                      I think the latest versions of the browsers allow you to disable this.

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                      • M Marc Clifton

                        ...are becoming more annoying than the ads. I'm referring to various sites other than CP, many are news sites, and many don't even let you continue with the ad-blocker in place unless you subscribe. As the saying goes, nothing is free. We need a blocker for the "you're using an ad-blocker!"

                        Latest Article - A 4-Stack rPI Cluster with WiFi-Ethernet Bridging Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                        Mozilla-based browsers have a "Dismiss the overlay" plug-in, which kills most of them.

                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                        • R realJSOP

                          I think the latest versions of the browsers allow you to disable this.

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                          Mark_Wallace
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                          Any browser that doesn't allow you to disable notifications shouldn't be used. Major security-risk stuff.

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                          • abmvA abmv

                            if you are talking about overlays you can use behind the overlay addon to disable it https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/behindtheoverlay/ljipkdpcjbmhkdjjmbbaggebcednbbme on chrome

                            Caveat Emptor. "Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long

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                            RJOberg
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                            That works for some but more and more sites have gotten wise to the tactic. Instead they load a single screen's worth of content so it LOOKS like the real article and then slap an overlay on the top. If you disable the overlay (or just delete it using dev tools in Chrome) you discover that the rest of the content was never actually provided.

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                              I think the latest versions of the browsers allow you to disable this.

                              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                              I may need to update my browsers then because I do not see it.

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                              • M Marc Clifton

                                ...are becoming more annoying than the ads. I'm referring to various sites other than CP, many are news sites, and many don't even let you continue with the ad-blocker in place unless you subscribe. As the saying goes, nothing is free. We need a blocker for the "you're using an ad-blocker!"

                                Latest Article - A 4-Stack rPI Cluster with WiFi-Ethernet Bridging Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                                ABP has a filter list specifically to block that crap. [Known Adblock Plus subscriptions](https://adblockplus.org/en/subscriptions) you want: ABP filters Specialization: Removes circumvention ads in Adblock Plus :cool:

                                Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                • R RJOberg

                                  That works for some but more and more sites have gotten wise to the tactic. Instead they load a single screen's worth of content so it LOOKS like the real article and then slap an overlay on the top. If you disable the overlay (or just delete it using dev tools in Chrome) you discover that the rest of the content was never actually provided.

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                                  javascript switcher to switch off.... js.... such sites usually i conclude are not worth it and just close it ...

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    ...these news sites... And why you expect they have the capabilities to deliver all for free?:confused:

                                    It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                                    --already reacted to the post some time ago.

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