InstallSHIELD
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MSDN states "Visual C++ includes the SDK Edition of Stirling Software’s InstallSHIELD". I have Visual Studio 6.0....I can't find it! "If a man speaks in the forest, and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?"
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MSDN states "Visual C++ includes the SDK Edition of Stirling Software’s InstallSHIELD". I have Visual Studio 6.0....I can't find it! "If a man speaks in the forest, and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?"
You can downloaded the crappy but free version of installshield from installshield.com. Microsoft let's you download there installation package for visual c++ professional edition user's. I have the standard edition and when I went to download it they make you type in that long identification number and well....I never got to download the software. Let me bestow my advice. INSTALLSHIELD SUCKS BADLY! A spectacular business-like (and free) installation package is inno-setup located at jrsoftware.org. It's easy to use and looks really nice. Installshield is difficult to use and takes forever to install. Peace. :rose:
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MSDN states "Visual C++ includes the SDK Edition of Stirling Software’s InstallSHIELD". I have Visual Studio 6.0....I can't find it! "If a man speaks in the forest, and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?"
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MSDN states "Visual C++ includes the SDK Edition of Stirling Software’s InstallSHIELD". I have Visual Studio 6.0....I can't find it! "If a man speaks in the forest, and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?"
I've only ever had experience installing VS 6 Enterprise edition, but after you install VS (or any of it's components), and then after you optionally install MSDN, you should be asked to install the additional tools (or which InstallShield is an option).
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You can downloaded the crappy but free version of installshield from installshield.com. Microsoft let's you download there installation package for visual c++ professional edition user's. I have the standard edition and when I went to download it they make you type in that long identification number and well....I never got to download the software. Let me bestow my advice. INSTALLSHIELD SUCKS BADLY! A spectacular business-like (and free) installation package is inno-setup located at jrsoftware.org. It's easy to use and looks really nice. Installshield is difficult to use and takes forever to install. Peace. :rose:
Allow me to second that motion. InstallShield is incredibly hard to use; and virtually impossible to manage in source control. Wise Installer, on the other hand (www.wisesolutions.com) is very easy to use, just as powerful as IS, and uses a single file to manage the entire installation.
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You can downloaded the crappy but free version of installshield from installshield.com. Microsoft let's you download there installation package for visual c++ professional edition user's. I have the standard edition and when I went to download it they make you type in that long identification number and well....I never got to download the software. Let me bestow my advice. INSTALLSHIELD SUCKS BADLY! A spectacular business-like (and free) installation package is inno-setup located at jrsoftware.org. It's easy to use and looks really nice. Installshield is difficult to use and takes forever to install. Peace. :rose:
I've got to give the contrary opinion. I have used Installshield quite successfully for a number of years. Generally I find that when someone says it SUCKS they usually don't understand the tool. After demonstrating and correcting their misconceptions they are usually more excepting of Installshield.
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I've got to give the contrary opinion. I have used Installshield quite successfully for a number of years. Generally I find that when someone says it SUCKS they usually don't understand the tool. After demonstrating and correcting their misconceptions they are usually more excepting of Installshield.
I am not saying this to be mean. Your statement "I find that when someone says it SUCKS they usually don't understand the tool" is correct (you sound like a university professor). However, it shouldn't take hours and hours and hours of training to understand an installation package. I spent several weeks studying installshield and I use to use it regularly. Compared to other packages on the market, installshield is complex and unbelievably expensive. Take a simpler example. I bought my parents a vcr so they can record shows. It's esay for me to program the vcr. They however don't understand it. I could develop a vcr that is easier to use than anything on the market today. That easy-to-use vcr would be valuable because people can understand it without reading the manuals! The current vcr's suck badly because people who want them don't understand how to use them unless they have someone there showing them the features. It shouldn't be that complicated. Other installation packages are not that complicated nor expensive. :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose:
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I am not saying this to be mean. Your statement "I find that when someone says it SUCKS they usually don't understand the tool" is correct (you sound like a university professor). However, it shouldn't take hours and hours and hours of training to understand an installation package. I spent several weeks studying installshield and I use to use it regularly. Compared to other packages on the market, installshield is complex and unbelievably expensive. Take a simpler example. I bought my parents a vcr so they can record shows. It's esay for me to program the vcr. They however don't understand it. I could develop a vcr that is easier to use than anything on the market today. That easy-to-use vcr would be valuable because people can understand it without reading the manuals! The current vcr's suck badly because people who want them don't understand how to use them unless they have someone there showing them the features. It shouldn't be that complicated. Other installation packages are not that complicated nor expensive. :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose:
However, it shouldn't take hours and hours and hours of training to understand an installation package. I spent several weeks studying installshield and I use to use it regularly. Compared to other packages on the market, installshield is overly complex... You're obviously not a linux fan then ;P. David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
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Allow me to second that motion. InstallShield is incredibly hard to use; and virtually impossible to manage in source control. Wise Installer, on the other hand (www.wisesolutions.com) is very easy to use, just as powerful as IS, and uses a single file to manage the entire installation.
InstallShield is incredibly hard to use If I can use it correctly, it can't be incredibly hard to use. Maybe a little hard to use, but definitely not incredibly. and virtually impossible to manage in source control To give them credit, the latest offering handles SFC very well. I haven't had any problems as of yet with using IS7 and VSS. Wise Installer ... uses a single file to manage the entire installation Why is that advantageous? David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
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I am not saying this to be mean. Your statement "I find that when someone says it SUCKS they usually don't understand the tool" is correct (you sound like a university professor). However, it shouldn't take hours and hours and hours of training to understand an installation package. I spent several weeks studying installshield and I use to use it regularly. Compared to other packages on the market, installshield is complex and unbelievably expensive. Take a simpler example. I bought my parents a vcr so they can record shows. It's esay for me to program the vcr. They however don't understand it. I could develop a vcr that is easier to use than anything on the market today. That easy-to-use vcr would be valuable because people can understand it without reading the manuals! The current vcr's suck badly because people who want them don't understand how to use them unless they have someone there showing them the features. It shouldn't be that complicated. Other installation packages are not that complicated nor expensive. :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose:
I'll agree that Installshield is much to expensive. Anyone from Instalshield out there, PAY ATTENTION!! As for taking hours to learn, that depends on the individual of course. Some master subjects easier than others. In general however just as with it takes time to master it.