Managers
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How do we deal with the non-tech managers. For no reason, the top boss has hired a B-school grad (Just because he's from a top University) and have handed over the responsibility to "drive" the project. We have never missed a deadline nor there's an issue with execution. We do have an Engineering manager as well. We are all very happy to interact with him. But the new guy talks a lot on the white board and this is quite irritating. He knows nothing about the product but talks with wide mouth as if he's pushing a lot to "get things done". "Get things done" BS. this is one of the worst lines to get into my ears. Do you think I should write to the top boss and ask him be removed out of the loop? He adds no value in the entire chain of things. Do you have the system of dumb folks sitting on top and doing this "getting things done" as well? is this culture going away or not? :doh:
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How do we deal with the non-tech managers. For no reason, the top boss has hired a B-school grad (Just because he's from a top University) and have handed over the responsibility to "drive" the project. We have never missed a deadline nor there's an issue with execution. We do have an Engineering manager as well. We are all very happy to interact with him. But the new guy talks a lot on the white board and this is quite irritating. He knows nothing about the product but talks with wide mouth as if he's pushing a lot to "get things done". "Get things done" BS. this is one of the worst lines to get into my ears. Do you think I should write to the top boss and ask him be removed out of the loop? He adds no value in the entire chain of things. Do you have the system of dumb folks sitting on top and doing this "getting things done" as well? is this culture going away or not? :doh:
Well, a B. School grad from a "top university" is quite an expense on the project. Maybe there is something the top boss sees that you don't. Projects die due to bad decisions, someone is replaced by someone else and people start leaving. Maybe this is a que for you, who knows. :laugh:
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How do we deal with the non-tech managers. For no reason, the top boss has hired a B-school grad (Just because he's from a top University) and have handed over the responsibility to "drive" the project. We have never missed a deadline nor there's an issue with execution. We do have an Engineering manager as well. We are all very happy to interact with him. But the new guy talks a lot on the white board and this is quite irritating. He knows nothing about the product but talks with wide mouth as if he's pushing a lot to "get things done". "Get things done" BS. this is one of the worst lines to get into my ears. Do you think I should write to the top boss and ask him be removed out of the loop? He adds no value in the entire chain of things. Do you have the system of dumb folks sitting on top and doing this "getting things done" as well? is this culture going away or not? :doh:
Ah, the Peter principle.[^] I wouldn't recommend going to the top boss, as in effect you will be telling the top boss that he has bad judgement as he hired this manager. Working with jerks both at the same level and above you is just an unfortunate aspect of work :sigh: Fortunately you will probably find that the jerks are in the minority although that does not always minimise their effect. Good luck all the same.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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How do we deal with the non-tech managers. For no reason, the top boss has hired a B-school grad (Just because he's from a top University) and have handed over the responsibility to "drive" the project. We have never missed a deadline nor there's an issue with execution. We do have an Engineering manager as well. We are all very happy to interact with him. But the new guy talks a lot on the white board and this is quite irritating. He knows nothing about the product but talks with wide mouth as if he's pushing a lot to "get things done". "Get things done" BS. this is one of the worst lines to get into my ears. Do you think I should write to the top boss and ask him be removed out of the loop? He adds no value in the entire chain of things. Do you have the system of dumb folks sitting on top and doing this "getting things done" as well? is this culture going away or not? :doh:
Going over his head is unlikely to work - particularly in the "early days" when he has no track record one way or the other. It's likely to be seen as you "not being a team player" and just resisting teh management changes that he - and presumably the guy who hired him - feel are needed to progress the project. Bear in mind that the "top boss" may have other reasons to hire him that you are not privy to (he could be a relation for example). Live with it, have a quiet word with the new hire, or update your resume.
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Going over his head is unlikely to work - particularly in the "early days" when he has no track record one way or the other. It's likely to be seen as you "not being a team player" and just resisting teh management changes that he - and presumably the guy who hired him - feel are needed to progress the project. Bear in mind that the "top boss" may have other reasons to hire him that you are not privy to (he could be a relation for example). Live with it, have a quiet word with the new hire, or update your resume.
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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How do we deal with the non-tech managers. For no reason, the top boss has hired a B-school grad (Just because he's from a top University) and have handed over the responsibility to "drive" the project. We have never missed a deadline nor there's an issue with execution. We do have an Engineering manager as well. We are all very happy to interact with him. But the new guy talks a lot on the white board and this is quite irritating. He knows nothing about the product but talks with wide mouth as if he's pushing a lot to "get things done". "Get things done" BS. this is one of the worst lines to get into my ears. Do you think I should write to the top boss and ask him be removed out of the loop? He adds no value in the entire chain of things. Do you have the system of dumb folks sitting on top and doing this "getting things done" as well? is this culture going away or not? :doh:
Becoming a manager[^] :-\
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Becoming a manager[^] :-\
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:laugh: Just learned a new word: privy ... which is very delicate -SubstantiveNoun vs. Adjective - for me to use as a non native english speaker :laugh:
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
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:thumbsup: One thing you can maybe optimize: I do rarely find a post from you whithout ":-\", maybe you put it to your signature :laugh: :laugh:
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
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How do we deal with the non-tech managers. For no reason, the top boss has hired a B-school grad (Just because he's from a top University) and have handed over the responsibility to "drive" the project. We have never missed a deadline nor there's an issue with execution. We do have an Engineering manager as well. We are all very happy to interact with him. But the new guy talks a lot on the white board and this is quite irritating. He knows nothing about the product but talks with wide mouth as if he's pushing a lot to "get things done". "Get things done" BS. this is one of the worst lines to get into my ears. Do you think I should write to the top boss and ask him be removed out of the loop? He adds no value in the entire chain of things. Do you have the system of dumb folks sitting on top and doing this "getting things done" as well? is this culture going away or not? :doh:
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It is also a noun
Uuuups that is what I mean with "Substantive"... you see it is dangerous/delicate for me to communicate in English :laugh:
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
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Becoming a manager[^] :-\
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Nand32 wrote:
"Get things done" BS. this is one of the worst lines to get into my ears.
Larry the Cable Guy has made a career out of saying practically that.
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Well, a B. School grad from a "top university" is quite an expense on the project. Maybe there is something the top boss sees that you don't. Projects die due to bad decisions, someone is replaced by someone else and people start leaving. Maybe this is a que for you, who knows. :laugh:
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Ah, the Peter principle.[^] I wouldn't recommend going to the top boss, as in effect you will be telling the top boss that he has bad judgement as he hired this manager. Working with jerks both at the same level and above you is just an unfortunate aspect of work :sigh: Fortunately you will probably find that the jerks are in the minority although that does not always minimise their effect. Good luck all the same.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Going over his head is unlikely to work - particularly in the "early days" when he has no track record one way or the other. It's likely to be seen as you "not being a team player" and just resisting teh management changes that he - and presumably the guy who hired him - feel are needed to progress the project. Bear in mind that the "top boss" may have other reasons to hire him that you are not privy to (he could be a relation for example). Live with it, have a quiet word with the new hire, or update your resume.
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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0x01AA wrote:
it is dangerous/delicate for me to communicate in English
Well it might be, if we English speakers had a better understanding of our own language. :doh:
'stru, innit? woteva.
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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:thumbsup: One thing you can maybe optimize: I do rarely find a post from you whithout ":-\", maybe you put it to your signature :laugh: :laugh:
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
No no, my signature is privy :omg:
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How do we deal with the non-tech managers. For no reason, the top boss has hired a B-school grad (Just because he's from a top University) and have handed over the responsibility to "drive" the project. We have never missed a deadline nor there's an issue with execution. We do have an Engineering manager as well. We are all very happy to interact with him. But the new guy talks a lot on the white board and this is quite irritating. He knows nothing about the product but talks with wide mouth as if he's pushing a lot to "get things done". "Get things done" BS. this is one of the worst lines to get into my ears. Do you think I should write to the top boss and ask him be removed out of the loop? He adds no value in the entire chain of things. Do you have the system of dumb folks sitting on top and doing this "getting things done" as well? is this culture going away or not? :doh:
