Democrat Crap
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No, the idea was that in order to form a capable militia, or to otherwise defend the Constitution, the people had the right to keep and bear arms. If the government is in charge of keeping the weapons, there are many vehicles that could be employed by the government, both inane and devious, with which to inhibit the arming of the people. To avoid this, the 2nd specifically says the people have the right to keep and bear. Even the SCOTUS has recognized that. Y'all can't win this argument.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013I see... And as I see the problem is that you can grab a gun - to defend the Constitution - and shut everyone in your way to the grocery store... It is obvious that today the Constitution is no under attack, so let the Constitution decide if it needs defense and who should defend it... For now everyone can make himself a champion of Constitution... While I do understand, that those who used to a life that includes hunting and other gun-sports would not want to give it up - they should not! however the current state is that not only one can get arms freely, he also has not responsibility to keep it safe from the bad guys... And that's where it turns to the wrong direction - IMHO, one should have the right to keep arms as much as one wants, but take full responsibility for it. Means that if the gun has been stolen and used for bank robbery, the original owner has the responsibility to explain the why and when...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
"It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox
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I see... And as I see the problem is that you can grab a gun - to defend the Constitution - and shut everyone in your way to the grocery store... It is obvious that today the Constitution is no under attack, so let the Constitution decide if it needs defense and who should defend it... For now everyone can make himself a champion of Constitution... While I do understand, that those who used to a life that includes hunting and other gun-sports would not want to give it up - they should not! however the current state is that not only one can get arms freely, he also has not responsibility to keep it safe from the bad guys... And that's where it turns to the wrong direction - IMHO, one should have the right to keep arms as much as one wants, but take full responsibility for it. Means that if the gun has been stolen and used for bank robbery, the original owner has the responsibility to explain the why and when...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
It is obvious that today the Constitution is no under attack
The Constitution is under attack by those that are bound by it. It always has been.
Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
let the Constitution decide if it needs defense and who should defend it...
A document that protects the people from the government always needs protection, and the protectors of the Constitution are the people.
Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
For now everyone can make himself a champion of Constitution.
Everyone should be, but that's sadly not the case. This is mostly because the Constitution isn't being taught in school anymore.
Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
While I do understand, that those who used to a life that includes hunting and other gun-sports
The 2nd amendment isn't about "hunting and gun sports".
Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
however the current state is that not only one can get arms freely, he also has not responsibility to keep it safe from the bad guys... And that's where it turns to the wrong direction - IMHO, one should have the right to keep arms as much as one wants, but take full responsibility for it. Means that if the gun has been stolen and used for bank robbery, the original owner has the responsibility to explain the why and when...
I'm not going to get drawn into a discussion about "responsible gun ownership". We're talking about the 2nd Amendment.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
A bunch of cave dwellers in Afghanistan have successfully resisted/repelled both Russia and the US. Tell me again about how the US military can easily overpower unorganized militias with sub-standard weapons.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
It is obvious that today the Constitution is no under attack
The Constitution is under attack by those that are bound by it. It always has been.
Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
let the Constitution decide if it needs defense and who should defend it...
A document that protects the people from the government always needs protection, and the protectors of the Constitution are the people.
Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
For now everyone can make himself a champion of Constitution.
Everyone should be, but that's sadly not the case. This is mostly because the Constitution isn't being taught in school anymore.
Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
While I do understand, that those who used to a life that includes hunting and other gun-sports
The 2nd amendment isn't about "hunting and gun sports".
Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
however the current state is that not only one can get arms freely, he also has not responsibility to keep it safe from the bad guys... And that's where it turns to the wrong direction - IMHO, one should have the right to keep arms as much as one wants, but take full responsibility for it. Means that if the gun has been stolen and used for bank robbery, the original owner has the responsibility to explain the why and when...
I'm not going to get drawn into a discussion about "responsible gun ownership". We're talking about the 2nd Amendment.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013#realJSOP wrote:
Constitution isn't being taught in school anymore
That sounds wrong - A nation that forgets its past has no future (W.C)...
#realJSOP wrote:
I'm not going to get drawn into a discussion about "responsible gun ownership". We're talking about the 2nd Amendment.
Maybe that's the problem... Instead of going around the 2nd, America should talk about responsibility (however - if you not teach about your own history I can't see how to teach responsibility to the young :-()
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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A bunch of cave dwellers in Afghanistan have successfully resisted/repelled both Russia and the US. Tell me again about how the US military can easily overpower unorganized militias with sub-standard weapons.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013#realJSOP wrote:
US military can easily overpower unorganized militias with sub-standard weapons.
Without a doubt. The Afghanis have been fighting invaders for over a century unlike the ammosexuals in the US.
Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne
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Christian Graus wrote:
The 2nd amendment doesn't say you are allowed to have guns in your house.
So in your esteemed (yet inconsequential) opinion, what exactly do you think "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" means?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Even though the Constitution expresses no limitations on free speech, limitations have been imposed. Nothing in the 2nd amendment prevents regulation of guns.
Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne
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Even though the Constitution expresses no limitations on free speech, limitations have been imposed. Nothing in the 2nd amendment prevents regulation of guns.
Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne
"...shall not be infringed." pretty much does just that (prevent regulation).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
"...shall not be infringed." pretty much does just that (prevent regulation).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Obviously not. Gun regulations exist now.
Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne
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Obviously not. Gun regulations exist now.
Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne
...In direct violation of the 2nd amendment. That’s the whole point.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
...In direct violation of the 2nd amendment. That’s the whole point.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013So you claim. It doesn’t appear gun nuts have been terribly successful in getting the courts to agree with your interpretation.
Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne
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So you claim. It doesn’t appear gun nuts have been terribly successful in getting the courts to agree with your interpretation.
Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne
Doesn’t mean I’m wrong...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Doesn’t mean I’m wrong...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Yeah, it does.
Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne
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Maybe he wants to put the well regulated in the "well regulated militia". What is well regulated anyway? It could be anything, per example mandating all firearms to be replaced with bubble guns.
It is and always has been the National Guards. Like the electoral college, this was set up to maintain influence by the states over the federal government.
