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    Lost User
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    with their latest debacle last straw that has me finally shit-canning firefox. but there's things that I liked in ff that chrome and others (played with opera yesterday too) just don't do, or don't do right. getting desparate... perhaps a firefox branch??? well: I'm on Pale Moon and loving it. OK not so many extensions available (but got the important stuff like ad-blocker). "Expert" reviews said it's firefox a few versions ago... (and ** warning warning, it's behind in security patches, up to 9 days behind! warning warning **.) well my finding: it's not "firefox a few versions back." well OK it sort-of is, but it isn't, not by a mile. there's none of the mozilla.org crap (pocket, removing features such as asking to save on exit, and all the "mozilla thinks you're to stupid so we removed it" preferences are there... way way way less mozilla shit and stupidity it's actually firefox done properly: ff for the users, not the marketing dept (which apparently is what's killing moz) "9 days behind on security patches" - OFFS, please, 99.999% of 'security patches' are obscure tiny crap that only happens if you go to obscure crap websites and do something that anyone with more than half a brain cell wouldn't do regardless of where you're at, (stupid is...) OIOW: FARK OFF "EXPERTS" fark off and while you're farked off how about wiping down all them certificates that your wanking reviews and in-your-dreams useful advice ex-spurted all over. oh and the other good thing about pale moon: it's not goggle chrome (aka the new "internet explorer")

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      with their latest debacle last straw that has me finally shit-canning firefox. but there's things that I liked in ff that chrome and others (played with opera yesterday too) just don't do, or don't do right. getting desparate... perhaps a firefox branch??? well: I'm on Pale Moon and loving it. OK not so many extensions available (but got the important stuff like ad-blocker). "Expert" reviews said it's firefox a few versions ago... (and ** warning warning, it's behind in security patches, up to 9 days behind! warning warning **.) well my finding: it's not "firefox a few versions back." well OK it sort-of is, but it isn't, not by a mile. there's none of the mozilla.org crap (pocket, removing features such as asking to save on exit, and all the "mozilla thinks you're to stupid so we removed it" preferences are there... way way way less mozilla shit and stupidity it's actually firefox done properly: ff for the users, not the marketing dept (which apparently is what's killing moz) "9 days behind on security patches" - OFFS, please, 99.999% of 'security patches' are obscure tiny crap that only happens if you go to obscure crap websites and do something that anyone with more than half a brain cell wouldn't do regardless of where you're at, (stupid is...) OIOW: FARK OFF "EXPERTS" fark off and while you're farked off how about wiping down all them certificates that your wanking reviews and in-your-dreams useful advice ex-spurted all over. oh and the other good thing about pale moon: it's not goggle chrome (aka the new "internet explorer")

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      Slacker007
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      Chrome is the only browser I use personally. Um, I guess give FF a bit of time to get their act together, etc. and then try them again? I would not write them off completely. Have they not been a great browser over the years for the most part? your post is too long and I am to lazy to read the whole book. :laugh:

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        with their latest debacle last straw that has me finally shit-canning firefox. but there's things that I liked in ff that chrome and others (played with opera yesterday too) just don't do, or don't do right. getting desparate... perhaps a firefox branch??? well: I'm on Pale Moon and loving it. OK not so many extensions available (but got the important stuff like ad-blocker). "Expert" reviews said it's firefox a few versions ago... (and ** warning warning, it's behind in security patches, up to 9 days behind! warning warning **.) well my finding: it's not "firefox a few versions back." well OK it sort-of is, but it isn't, not by a mile. there's none of the mozilla.org crap (pocket, removing features such as asking to save on exit, and all the "mozilla thinks you're to stupid so we removed it" preferences are there... way way way less mozilla shit and stupidity it's actually firefox done properly: ff for the users, not the marketing dept (which apparently is what's killing moz) "9 days behind on security patches" - OFFS, please, 99.999% of 'security patches' are obscure tiny crap that only happens if you go to obscure crap websites and do something that anyone with more than half a brain cell wouldn't do regardless of where you're at, (stupid is...) OIOW: FARK OFF "EXPERTS" fark off and while you're farked off how about wiping down all them certificates that your wanking reviews and in-your-dreams useful advice ex-spurted all over. oh and the other good thing about pale moon: it's not goggle chrome (aka the new "internet explorer")

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        I am curious what was that debacle? I got fed-up with FF. I like the Vivaldi browser, and occasionally go Chrome.

        "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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          I am curious what was that debacle? I got fed-up with FF. I like the Vivaldi browser, and occasionally go Chrome.

          "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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          basically some certificate screw up that cause every add-on to be disabled .. EVERY add-on, not just some, every single add-on. 1 day later they suggested a temporary work-around that worked for maybe 25% of the users, few days on they've supposedly released an update but even then they admitted it was incomplete and would only help some people. have you tried running your browser without adblock (or whatver blocker you use)? and all those other extensions/add-ons you don't even think about anymore, even the simple ones. not fun at all,

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            basically some certificate screw up that cause every add-on to be disabled .. EVERY add-on, not just some, every single add-on. 1 day later they suggested a temporary work-around that worked for maybe 25% of the users, few days on they've supposedly released an update but even then they admitted it was incomplete and would only help some people. have you tried running your browser without adblock (or whatver blocker you use)? and all those other extensions/add-ons you don't even think about anymore, even the simple ones. not fun at all,

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            It's been fixed now. All add-ons work.

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              with their latest debacle last straw that has me finally shit-canning firefox. but there's things that I liked in ff that chrome and others (played with opera yesterday too) just don't do, or don't do right. getting desparate... perhaps a firefox branch??? well: I'm on Pale Moon and loving it. OK not so many extensions available (but got the important stuff like ad-blocker). "Expert" reviews said it's firefox a few versions ago... (and ** warning warning, it's behind in security patches, up to 9 days behind! warning warning **.) well my finding: it's not "firefox a few versions back." well OK it sort-of is, but it isn't, not by a mile. there's none of the mozilla.org crap (pocket, removing features such as asking to save on exit, and all the "mozilla thinks you're to stupid so we removed it" preferences are there... way way way less mozilla shit and stupidity it's actually firefox done properly: ff for the users, not the marketing dept (which apparently is what's killing moz) "9 days behind on security patches" - OFFS, please, 99.999% of 'security patches' are obscure tiny crap that only happens if you go to obscure crap websites and do something that anyone with more than half a brain cell wouldn't do regardless of where you're at, (stupid is...) OIOW: FARK OFF "EXPERTS" fark off and while you're farked off how about wiping down all them certificates that your wanking reviews and in-your-dreams useful advice ex-spurted all over. oh and the other good thing about pale moon: it's not goggle chrome (aka the new "internet explorer")

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              I have an old version of FireFox running because it no longer supports some of the add-ons I like (like FireFTP). Today - and I mean during the day - somehow they updated my FireFox (same old version) and it no longer will run my Adblocker or web-beacon handler. Just like that. Interestingly, they are now allowing trash into my system that invades my privacy, like the web beacons because the think that 'unsigned' add-ons might violate my privacy by transmitting information. Especially doing this without a word or warning or permission, they crossed the line. Morons.

              Ravings en masse^

              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                with their latest debacle last straw that has me finally shit-canning firefox. but there's things that I liked in ff that chrome and others (played with opera yesterday too) just don't do, or don't do right. getting desparate... perhaps a firefox branch??? well: I'm on Pale Moon and loving it. OK not so many extensions available (but got the important stuff like ad-blocker). "Expert" reviews said it's firefox a few versions ago... (and ** warning warning, it's behind in security patches, up to 9 days behind! warning warning **.) well my finding: it's not "firefox a few versions back." well OK it sort-of is, but it isn't, not by a mile. there's none of the mozilla.org crap (pocket, removing features such as asking to save on exit, and all the "mozilla thinks you're to stupid so we removed it" preferences are there... way way way less mozilla shit and stupidity it's actually firefox done properly: ff for the users, not the marketing dept (which apparently is what's killing moz) "9 days behind on security patches" - OFFS, please, 99.999% of 'security patches' are obscure tiny crap that only happens if you go to obscure crap websites and do something that anyone with more than half a brain cell wouldn't do regardless of where you're at, (stupid is...) OIOW: FARK OFF "EXPERTS" fark off and while you're farked off how about wiping down all them certificates that your wanking reviews and in-your-dreams useful advice ex-spurted all over. oh and the other good thing about pale moon: it's not goggle chrome (aka the new "internet explorer")

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                Lopatir wrote:

                Pale Moon

                :thumbsup::thumbsup: Try the Speed Start add-on. Bloody brilliant, and incredibly flexible. And if you make a few folders, you can add links to each inside the other folders -- make the links so small that you only see the title, and you can build a menu with them. I also really appreciate the Dismiss The Overlay add-on.

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                  Lopatir wrote:

                  Pale Moon

                  :thumbsup::thumbsup: Try the Speed Start add-on. Bloody brilliant, and incredibly flexible. And if you make a few folders, you can add links to each inside the other folders -- make the links so small that you only see the title, and you can build a menu with them. I also really appreciate the Dismiss The Overlay add-on.

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  ahh, a fellow moonie. my only regret: didn't do this earlier.

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                    I have an old version of FireFox running because it no longer supports some of the add-ons I like (like FireFTP). Today - and I mean during the day - somehow they updated my FireFox (same old version) and it no longer will run my Adblocker or web-beacon handler. Just like that. Interestingly, they are now allowing trash into my system that invades my privacy, like the web beacons because the think that 'unsigned' add-ons might violate my privacy by transmitting information. Especially doing this without a word or warning or permission, they crossed the line. Morons.

                    Ravings en masse^

                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                    same, had an older version of ff (for the "save on quit warning" that they removed because: just because. (apparently from comments from mozdev putting it back is completely new work, that tells me how f-uped mozilla dev is). so they've "fixed the add-ons issue" ...but only by downloading a new version - NO THANKS.

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                      same, had an older version of ff (for the "save on quit warning" that they removed because: just because. (apparently from comments from mozdev putting it back is completely new work, that tells me how f-uped mozilla dev is). so they've "fixed the add-ons issue" ...but only by downloading a new version - NO THANKS.

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                      Just installed WaterFox (using it now). It seemed a bit finicky at the install in terms of bringing in my FireFox settings - but all of my plugins are now plugged in. It seemed to happen in relays, maybe various internal rests. So far, so good.

                      Ravings en masse^

                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                        ahh, a fellow moonie. my only regret: didn't do this earlier.

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                        The only thing it seems to be lacking is all the things I didn't like about firefox.

                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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