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    How many of the "killer applications" that I started my PC life with - the really original, useful, amazing ones - do I still use? None. Remember "Brief - the Programmers Editor"? Gone. Xtree? (XTree Gold, Pro, Gold Pro, Gold Pro Ultimate Wonder CuresBaldnessAndScurvy Edition included)? You couldn't live without it, but ... despite a couple of (pretty poor) Windows versions it died a death. 1-2-3? Nope. Wordstar? Dead. Samna Word / Ami Pro / Lotus Word Pro? (The best word processor ever created) It lost out to the MS Office juggernaut: Roadkill. Got anything you started off with still in regular use?

    Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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      How many of the "killer applications" that I started my PC life with - the really original, useful, amazing ones - do I still use? None. Remember "Brief - the Programmers Editor"? Gone. Xtree? (XTree Gold, Pro, Gold Pro, Gold Pro Ultimate Wonder CuresBaldnessAndScurvy Edition included)? You couldn't live without it, but ... despite a couple of (pretty poor) Windows versions it died a death. 1-2-3? Nope. Wordstar? Dead. Samna Word / Ami Pro / Lotus Word Pro? (The best word processor ever created) It lost out to the MS Office juggernaut: Roadkill. Got anything you started off with still in regular use?

      Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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      No, not any. Plenty of Windows adaptations of far older UNIX tools, though.

      Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        How many of the "killer applications" that I started my PC life with - the really original, useful, amazing ones - do I still use? None. Remember "Brief - the Programmers Editor"? Gone. Xtree? (XTree Gold, Pro, Gold Pro, Gold Pro Ultimate Wonder CuresBaldnessAndScurvy Edition included)? You couldn't live without it, but ... despite a couple of (pretty poor) Windows versions it died a death. 1-2-3? Nope. Wordstar? Dead. Samna Word / Ami Pro / Lotus Word Pro? (The best word processor ever created) It lost out to the MS Office juggernaut: Roadkill. Got anything you started off with still in regular use?

        Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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        I also used Brief - I miss it now and then - XTree, Wordstar and I still have a floppy disk of Norton Utilities - even though my main machines no longer have a floppy disk device! I tried Norton Commander for a while but didn't really like it. Ghost - I think it was called that; for low level disky things - gone now. I wrote some utilities myself for various things, floppy disk backups, disk hex editors, early messaging and a sort of email over TCP/IP (before internet, just on the office network) - all gone now; I can't even find the floppy with the source code!

        - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          How many of the "killer applications" that I started my PC life with - the really original, useful, amazing ones - do I still use? None. Remember "Brief - the Programmers Editor"? Gone. Xtree? (XTree Gold, Pro, Gold Pro, Gold Pro Ultimate Wonder CuresBaldnessAndScurvy Edition included)? You couldn't live without it, but ... despite a couple of (pretty poor) Windows versions it died a death. 1-2-3? Nope. Wordstar? Dead. Samna Word / Ami Pro / Lotus Word Pro? (The best word processor ever created) It lost out to the MS Office juggernaut: Roadkill. Got anything you started off with still in regular use?

          Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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          at least two for me: Visual C++ => Visual Studio Netscape => Firefox

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            How many of the "killer applications" that I started my PC life with - the really original, useful, amazing ones - do I still use? None. Remember "Brief - the Programmers Editor"? Gone. Xtree? (XTree Gold, Pro, Gold Pro, Gold Pro Ultimate Wonder CuresBaldnessAndScurvy Edition included)? You couldn't live without it, but ... despite a couple of (pretty poor) Windows versions it died a death. 1-2-3? Nope. Wordstar? Dead. Samna Word / Ami Pro / Lotus Word Pro? (The best word processor ever created) It lost out to the MS Office juggernaut: Roadkill. Got anything you started off with still in regular use?

            Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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            None of them in use, because they where DOS when I started. E.g. ashton tate framework iii. RIP :-D

            It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              How many of the "killer applications" that I started my PC life with - the really original, useful, amazing ones - do I still use? None. Remember "Brief - the Programmers Editor"? Gone. Xtree? (XTree Gold, Pro, Gold Pro, Gold Pro Ultimate Wonder CuresBaldnessAndScurvy Edition included)? You couldn't live without it, but ... despite a couple of (pretty poor) Windows versions it died a death. 1-2-3? Nope. Wordstar? Dead. Samna Word / Ami Pro / Lotus Word Pro? (The best word processor ever created) It lost out to the MS Office juggernaut: Roadkill. Got anything you started off with still in regular use?

              Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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              For me it was Borland Turbo Pascal & C++, learn to code on those two. Still have the installer floppies (but no floppy drive!, :( well a USB but...)

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              • C Chris Losinger

                at least two for me: Visual C++ => Visual Studio Netscape => Firefox

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                I remember buying Visual C++ V1.0 myself, with my own money! Two foot thick shelf of books and a similar pile of pound notes ... :laugh:

                Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  How many of the "killer applications" that I started my PC life with - the really original, useful, amazing ones - do I still use? None. Remember "Brief - the Programmers Editor"? Gone. Xtree? (XTree Gold, Pro, Gold Pro, Gold Pro Ultimate Wonder CuresBaldnessAndScurvy Edition included)? You couldn't live without it, but ... despite a couple of (pretty poor) Windows versions it died a death. 1-2-3? Nope. Wordstar? Dead. Samna Word / Ami Pro / Lotus Word Pro? (The best word processor ever created) It lost out to the MS Office juggernaut: Roadkill. Got anything you started off with still in regular use?

                  Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                  The Norton Commander!

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                  • C Chris Losinger

                    at least two for me: Visual C++ => Visual Studio Netscape => Firefox

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                    Same over here … VC++ 1.51, now using Visual Studio 2017 :-)

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      How many of the "killer applications" that I started my PC life with - the really original, useful, amazing ones - do I still use? None. Remember "Brief - the Programmers Editor"? Gone. Xtree? (XTree Gold, Pro, Gold Pro, Gold Pro Ultimate Wonder CuresBaldnessAndScurvy Edition included)? You couldn't live without it, but ... despite a couple of (pretty poor) Windows versions it died a death. 1-2-3? Nope. Wordstar? Dead. Samna Word / Ami Pro / Lotus Word Pro? (The best word processor ever created) It lost out to the MS Office juggernaut: Roadkill. Got anything you started off with still in regular use?

                      Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                      To be fair, nothing you've named ever got a Windows version (?), so given that nobody these days works with DOS...it's only fair they'd no longer be used. I'm looking at my "old utils" folder (which is in OneDrive, so it gets synched automatically across all my systems)...there's plenty of utilities that go back to my DOS days, but I've probably not fired up any of them in years, even once. The oldest file is ARJ.EXE (1993), followed by AMCAP100.EXE (1998). I actually use that one every once in a while, to test whether a webcam's drivers work. But it looks like I have none of the DOS utilities from the 80s anymore.

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        How many of the "killer applications" that I started my PC life with - the really original, useful, amazing ones - do I still use? None. Remember "Brief - the Programmers Editor"? Gone. Xtree? (XTree Gold, Pro, Gold Pro, Gold Pro Ultimate Wonder CuresBaldnessAndScurvy Edition included)? You couldn't live without it, but ... despite a couple of (pretty poor) Windows versions it died a death. 1-2-3? Nope. Wordstar? Dead. Samna Word / Ami Pro / Lotus Word Pro? (The best word processor ever created) It lost out to the MS Office juggernaut: Roadkill. Got anything you started off with still in regular use?

                        Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                        QuickC - made the switch-over from FORTRAN quite pleasant. A bunch of .COM files I created - and for that matter, all the stuff that used the ROM BIOS went belly up. Well, the versions change, but at least you can still get ROGUE !

                        Ravings en masse^

                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          How many of the "killer applications" that I started my PC life with - the really original, useful, amazing ones - do I still use? None. Remember "Brief - the Programmers Editor"? Gone. Xtree? (XTree Gold, Pro, Gold Pro, Gold Pro Ultimate Wonder CuresBaldnessAndScurvy Edition included)? You couldn't live without it, but ... despite a couple of (pretty poor) Windows versions it died a death. 1-2-3? Nope. Wordstar? Dead. Samna Word / Ami Pro / Lotus Word Pro? (The best word processor ever created) It lost out to the MS Office juggernaut: Roadkill. Got anything you started off with still in regular use?

                          Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                          littleGreenDude
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                          Command Prompt :)

                          “The palest ink is better than the best memory.” - Chinese Proverb

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                          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                            How many of the "killer applications" that I started my PC life with - the really original, useful, amazing ones - do I still use? None. Remember "Brief - the Programmers Editor"? Gone. Xtree? (XTree Gold, Pro, Gold Pro, Gold Pro Ultimate Wonder CuresBaldnessAndScurvy Edition included)? You couldn't live without it, but ... despite a couple of (pretty poor) Windows versions it died a death. 1-2-3? Nope. Wordstar? Dead. Samna Word / Ami Pro / Lotus Word Pro? (The best word processor ever created) It lost out to the MS Office juggernaut: Roadkill. Got anything you started off with still in regular use?

                            Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                            Gary Wheeler
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                            The closest I can come to is an in-house debugging tool I wrote originally back in 2000. It's still going strong, and is in the process of getting some enhancements even today.

                            Software Zen: delete this;

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                            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                              How many of the "killer applications" that I started my PC life with - the really original, useful, amazing ones - do I still use? None. Remember "Brief - the Programmers Editor"? Gone. Xtree? (XTree Gold, Pro, Gold Pro, Gold Pro Ultimate Wonder CuresBaldnessAndScurvy Edition included)? You couldn't live without it, but ... despite a couple of (pretty poor) Windows versions it died a death. 1-2-3? Nope. Wordstar? Dead. Samna Word / Ami Pro / Lotus Word Pro? (The best word processor ever created) It lost out to the MS Office juggernaut: Roadkill. Got anything you started off with still in regular use?

                              Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                              Good question! :thumbsup: I've been at this 20 years and have a few unpopular apps: 0: VB6 (I still maintain quite a few legacy applications that I started over 20 years ago) 1: MS Access (lite versions of our software still use Jet 4.0) 2: MS Photo Editor 3: Many of my own utility apps that I use every day have roots back to the early days While I'll certainly get thrashed for still using VB6 and Access, let me just say that I can't even begin to calculate the ROI I've gotten on the $180 VS6 suite I bought at uni back in '98! There are plans to migrate it all in the next year or so when my business partner and I can reach an agreement on the target environment. I'm pushing for desktop, she is insisting on web...so probably doing web. :sigh:

                              "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                                How many of the "killer applications" that I started my PC life with - the really original, useful, amazing ones - do I still use? None. Remember "Brief - the Programmers Editor"? Gone. Xtree? (XTree Gold, Pro, Gold Pro, Gold Pro Ultimate Wonder CuresBaldnessAndScurvy Edition included)? You couldn't live without it, but ... despite a couple of (pretty poor) Windows versions it died a death. 1-2-3? Nope. Wordstar? Dead. Samna Word / Ami Pro / Lotus Word Pro? (The best word processor ever created) It lost out to the MS Office juggernaut: Roadkill. Got anything you started off with still in regular use?

                                Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                NotePad is still going strong.

                                Brent

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                                  To be fair, nothing you've named ever got a Windows version (?), so given that nobody these days works with DOS...it's only fair they'd no longer be used. I'm looking at my "old utils" folder (which is in OneDrive, so it gets synched automatically across all my systems)...there's plenty of utilities that go back to my DOS days, but I've probably not fired up any of them in years, even once. The oldest file is ARJ.EXE (1993), followed by AMCAP100.EXE (1998). I actually use that one every once in a while, to test whether a webcam's drivers work. But it looks like I have none of the DOS utilities from the 80s anymore.

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                                  OriginalGriff
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                                  Samna / AmiPro / Lotus Word Pro was originally Win 3.0, it was one of the first wysiwyg word processors, sadly squashed by the Office behemoth. XTree had several Windows versions, including a patch which made it work on Win95, but was bought by Symantec and buried (while still just about alive).

                                  Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                  "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                    How many of the "killer applications" that I started my PC life with - the really original, useful, amazing ones - do I still use? None. Remember "Brief - the Programmers Editor"? Gone. Xtree? (XTree Gold, Pro, Gold Pro, Gold Pro Ultimate Wonder CuresBaldnessAndScurvy Edition included)? You couldn't live without it, but ... despite a couple of (pretty poor) Windows versions it died a death. 1-2-3? Nope. Wordstar? Dead. Samna Word / Ami Pro / Lotus Word Pro? (The best word processor ever created) It lost out to the MS Office juggernaut: Roadkill. Got anything you started off with still in regular use?

                                    Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                    I think there's only one application I've used on a daily basis for about twenty years now... Winamp! :D It still kicks (llama's) ass :D I'm still on v5.666 though (you think that version is a coincidence?), didn't recently bother to upgrade to the new "leaked" 5.8. And hell yes it's a productivity tool!

                                    Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                                      How many of the "killer applications" that I started my PC life with - the really original, useful, amazing ones - do I still use? None. Remember "Brief - the Programmers Editor"? Gone. Xtree? (XTree Gold, Pro, Gold Pro, Gold Pro Ultimate Wonder CuresBaldnessAndScurvy Edition included)? You couldn't live without it, but ... despite a couple of (pretty poor) Windows versions it died a death. 1-2-3? Nope. Wordstar? Dead. Samna Word / Ami Pro / Lotus Word Pro? (The best word processor ever created) It lost out to the MS Office juggernaut: Roadkill. Got anything you started off with still in regular use?

                                      Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                      Brief I remember and loved. Still use VB 6.0 on occasion for some legacy stuff for multiple phone line recordings for jails and such written more years ago than I want to think about BUT - still going. (They are still running NT server since it was the last server that supported the multi-line phone cards they use). I remember buying MS FORTRAN, and a PL/1 compiler on floppy - both ran by swapping floppies like crazy when compiling. Turbo Pascal 1.0 saw a LOT of use when I was contracting to the Army.

                                      A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, navigate a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects! - Lazarus Long

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                                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                        How many of the "killer applications" that I started my PC life with - the really original, useful, amazing ones - do I still use? None. Remember "Brief - the Programmers Editor"? Gone. Xtree? (XTree Gold, Pro, Gold Pro, Gold Pro Ultimate Wonder CuresBaldnessAndScurvy Edition included)? You couldn't live without it, but ... despite a couple of (pretty poor) Windows versions it died a death. 1-2-3? Nope. Wordstar? Dead. Samna Word / Ami Pro / Lotus Word Pro? (The best word processor ever created) It lost out to the MS Office juggernaut: Roadkill. Got anything you started off with still in regular use?

                                        Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                        Lap link! Well I still have a cable that I use occasionally!

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                                          How many of the "killer applications" that I started my PC life with - the really original, useful, amazing ones - do I still use? None. Remember "Brief - the Programmers Editor"? Gone. Xtree? (XTree Gold, Pro, Gold Pro, Gold Pro Ultimate Wonder CuresBaldnessAndScurvy Edition included)? You couldn't live without it, but ... despite a couple of (pretty poor) Windows versions it died a death. 1-2-3? Nope. Wordstar? Dead. Samna Word / Ami Pro / Lotus Word Pro? (The best word processor ever created) It lost out to the MS Office juggernaut: Roadkill. Got anything you started off with still in regular use?

                                          Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                          I still use Vi every day :)

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