The Peter Norton thread below go me thinking ...
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How many of the "killer applications" that I started my PC life with - the really original, useful, amazing ones - do I still use? None. Remember "Brief - the Programmers Editor"? Gone. Xtree? (XTree Gold, Pro, Gold Pro, Gold Pro Ultimate Wonder CuresBaldnessAndScurvy Edition included)? You couldn't live without it, but ... despite a couple of (pretty poor) Windows versions it died a death. 1-2-3? Nope. Wordstar? Dead. Samna Word / Ami Pro / Lotus Word Pro? (The best word processor ever created) It lost out to the MS Office juggernaut: Roadkill. Got anything you started off with still in regular use?
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Good question! :thumbsup: I've been at this 20 years and have a few unpopular apps: 0: VB6 (I still maintain quite a few legacy applications that I started over 20 years ago) 1: MS Access (lite versions of our software still use Jet 4.0) 2: MS Photo Editor 3: Many of my own utility apps that I use every day have roots back to the early days While I'll certainly get thrashed for still using VB6 and Access, let me just say that I can't even begin to calculate the ROI I've gotten on the $180 VS6 suite I bought at uni back in '98! There are plans to migrate it all in the next year or so when my business partner and I can reach an agreement on the target environment. I'm pushing for desktop, she is insisting on web...so probably doing web. :sigh:
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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How many of the "killer applications" that I started my PC life with - the really original, useful, amazing ones - do I still use? None. Remember "Brief - the Programmers Editor"? Gone. Xtree? (XTree Gold, Pro, Gold Pro, Gold Pro Ultimate Wonder CuresBaldnessAndScurvy Edition included)? You couldn't live without it, but ... despite a couple of (pretty poor) Windows versions it died a death. 1-2-3? Nope. Wordstar? Dead. Samna Word / Ami Pro / Lotus Word Pro? (The best word processor ever created) It lost out to the MS Office juggernaut: Roadkill. Got anything you started off with still in regular use?
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To be fair, nothing you've named ever got a Windows version (?), so given that nobody these days works with DOS...it's only fair they'd no longer be used. I'm looking at my "old utils" folder (which is in OneDrive, so it gets synched automatically across all my systems)...there's plenty of utilities that go back to my DOS days, but I've probably not fired up any of them in years, even once. The oldest file is ARJ.EXE (1993), followed by AMCAP100.EXE (1998). I actually use that one every once in a while, to test whether a webcam's drivers work. But it looks like I have none of the DOS utilities from the 80s anymore.
Samna / AmiPro / Lotus Word Pro was originally Win 3.0, it was one of the first wysiwyg word processors, sadly squashed by the Office behemoth. XTree had several Windows versions, including a patch which made it work on Win95, but was bought by Symantec and buried (while still just about alive).
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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How many of the "killer applications" that I started my PC life with - the really original, useful, amazing ones - do I still use? None. Remember "Brief - the Programmers Editor"? Gone. Xtree? (XTree Gold, Pro, Gold Pro, Gold Pro Ultimate Wonder CuresBaldnessAndScurvy Edition included)? You couldn't live without it, but ... despite a couple of (pretty poor) Windows versions it died a death. 1-2-3? Nope. Wordstar? Dead. Samna Word / Ami Pro / Lotus Word Pro? (The best word processor ever created) It lost out to the MS Office juggernaut: Roadkill. Got anything you started off with still in regular use?
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
I think there's only one application I've used on a daily basis for about twenty years now... Winamp! :D It still kicks (llama's) ass :D I'm still on v5.666 though (you think that version is a coincidence?), didn't recently bother to upgrade to the new "leaked" 5.8. And hell yes it's a productivity tool!
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How many of the "killer applications" that I started my PC life with - the really original, useful, amazing ones - do I still use? None. Remember "Brief - the Programmers Editor"? Gone. Xtree? (XTree Gold, Pro, Gold Pro, Gold Pro Ultimate Wonder CuresBaldnessAndScurvy Edition included)? You couldn't live without it, but ... despite a couple of (pretty poor) Windows versions it died a death. 1-2-3? Nope. Wordstar? Dead. Samna Word / Ami Pro / Lotus Word Pro? (The best word processor ever created) It lost out to the MS Office juggernaut: Roadkill. Got anything you started off with still in regular use?
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
Brief I remember and loved. Still use VB 6.0 on occasion for some legacy stuff for multiple phone line recordings for jails and such written more years ago than I want to think about BUT - still going. (They are still running NT server since it was the last server that supported the multi-line phone cards they use). I remember buying MS FORTRAN, and a PL/1 compiler on floppy - both ran by swapping floppies like crazy when compiling. Turbo Pascal 1.0 saw a LOT of use when I was contracting to the Army.
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, navigate a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects! - Lazarus Long
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How many of the "killer applications" that I started my PC life with - the really original, useful, amazing ones - do I still use? None. Remember "Brief - the Programmers Editor"? Gone. Xtree? (XTree Gold, Pro, Gold Pro, Gold Pro Ultimate Wonder CuresBaldnessAndScurvy Edition included)? You couldn't live without it, but ... despite a couple of (pretty poor) Windows versions it died a death. 1-2-3? Nope. Wordstar? Dead. Samna Word / Ami Pro / Lotus Word Pro? (The best word processor ever created) It lost out to the MS Office juggernaut: Roadkill. Got anything you started off with still in regular use?
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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How many of the "killer applications" that I started my PC life with - the really original, useful, amazing ones - do I still use? None. Remember "Brief - the Programmers Editor"? Gone. Xtree? (XTree Gold, Pro, Gold Pro, Gold Pro Ultimate Wonder CuresBaldnessAndScurvy Edition included)? You couldn't live without it, but ... despite a couple of (pretty poor) Windows versions it died a death. 1-2-3? Nope. Wordstar? Dead. Samna Word / Ami Pro / Lotus Word Pro? (The best word processor ever created) It lost out to the MS Office juggernaut: Roadkill. Got anything you started off with still in regular use?
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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How many of the "killer applications" that I started my PC life with - the really original, useful, amazing ones - do I still use? None. Remember "Brief - the Programmers Editor"? Gone. Xtree? (XTree Gold, Pro, Gold Pro, Gold Pro Ultimate Wonder CuresBaldnessAndScurvy Edition included)? You couldn't live without it, but ... despite a couple of (pretty poor) Windows versions it died a death. 1-2-3? Nope. Wordstar? Dead. Samna Word / Ami Pro / Lotus Word Pro? (The best word processor ever created) It lost out to the MS Office juggernaut: Roadkill. Got anything you started off with still in regular use?
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
I still use Vi every day :)
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Lap link! Well I still have a cable that I use occasionally!
Socialism is the Axe Body Spray of political ideologies: It never does what it claims to do, but people too young to know better keep buying it anyway. (Glenn Reynolds)
Gawd! I'd forgotten that one. Copying 32MB HDD over a RS232 link ... I still get flashbacks ... :laugh:
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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How many of the "killer applications" that I started my PC life with - the really original, useful, amazing ones - do I still use? None. Remember "Brief - the Programmers Editor"? Gone. Xtree? (XTree Gold, Pro, Gold Pro, Gold Pro Ultimate Wonder CuresBaldnessAndScurvy Edition included)? You couldn't live without it, but ... despite a couple of (pretty poor) Windows versions it died a death. 1-2-3? Nope. Wordstar? Dead. Samna Word / Ami Pro / Lotus Word Pro? (The best word processor ever created) It lost out to the MS Office juggernaut: Roadkill. Got anything you started off with still in regular use?
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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How many of the "killer applications" that I started my PC life with - the really original, useful, amazing ones - do I still use? None. Remember "Brief - the Programmers Editor"? Gone. Xtree? (XTree Gold, Pro, Gold Pro, Gold Pro Ultimate Wonder CuresBaldnessAndScurvy Edition included)? You couldn't live without it, but ... despite a couple of (pretty poor) Windows versions it died a death. 1-2-3? Nope. Wordstar? Dead. Samna Word / Ami Pro / Lotus Word Pro? (The best word processor ever created) It lost out to the MS Office juggernaut: Roadkill. Got anything you started off with still in regular use?
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
PC? No. Though I have my Turbo BASIC and PFS: First Choice floppies and manuals. Turbo BASIC worked on 32-bit Win 7, but doesn't in 64-bit Win10. I ditched my Turbo C/C++ and Pascal stuff ago, but I still use Borland's C/C++ command line tools on occasion. Real computers? Yes, started using EDT on a PDP-11 in 1983 and it's still my editor of choice on my various OpenVMS systems.
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Gawd! I'd forgotten that one. Copying 32MB HDD over a RS232 link ... I still get flashbacks ... :laugh:
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
Yep. I shudder to think of how many MB I copied using that program. But it was very good at what it did.
Socialism is the Axe Body Spray of political ideologies: It never does what it claims to do, but people too young to know better keep buying it anyway. (Glenn Reynolds)
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How many of the "killer applications" that I started my PC life with - the really original, useful, amazing ones - do I still use? None. Remember "Brief - the Programmers Editor"? Gone. Xtree? (XTree Gold, Pro, Gold Pro, Gold Pro Ultimate Wonder CuresBaldnessAndScurvy Edition included)? You couldn't live without it, but ... despite a couple of (pretty poor) Windows versions it died a death. 1-2-3? Nope. Wordstar? Dead. Samna Word / Ami Pro / Lotus Word Pro? (The best word processor ever created) It lost out to the MS Office juggernaut: Roadkill. Got anything you started off with still in regular use?
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
OriginalGriff wrote:
Lotus Word Pro? (The best word processor ever created)
X| X| X| Sorry OG but even from it's first day Word has been better than Lotus' crap.
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How many of the "killer applications" that I started my PC life with - the really original, useful, amazing ones - do I still use? None. Remember "Brief - the Programmers Editor"? Gone. Xtree? (XTree Gold, Pro, Gold Pro, Gold Pro Ultimate Wonder CuresBaldnessAndScurvy Edition included)? You couldn't live without it, but ... despite a couple of (pretty poor) Windows versions it died a death. 1-2-3? Nope. Wordstar? Dead. Samna Word / Ami Pro / Lotus Word Pro? (The best word processor ever created) It lost out to the MS Office juggernaut: Roadkill. Got anything you started off with still in regular use?
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
Like some others I started in DOS, so nothing really would have survived to now. I also used Brief and really liked it, and of course for a long time afterwards any editor would have good Brief emulation. But eventually it faded away and I had to get used to the more common Windows schemes. I started with C (Turbo C? Can't remember) and assembler. I remember going to the store and buying the IBM assembler package and being really excited, and get the BIOS manual with all of the BIOS code. Talk about spaghetti, I think they might have reused single bytes via jump sometimes. But 8K ain't a lot to work with. I'm guessing I also used Turbo Pascal some as well. I remember when I moved to OS/2. It used to drive me freaking crazy that the hard drive would start moving on its own. In DOS unless your program told the hard drive to do something it didn't do anything. I was constantly jerking around at the sound of the hard drive (and they were't quiet in those days) suddenly grinding on its own and having a moment of fear that something bad was happening.
Explorans limites defectum
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Like some others I started in DOS, so nothing really would have survived to now. I also used Brief and really liked it, and of course for a long time afterwards any editor would have good Brief emulation. But eventually it faded away and I had to get used to the more common Windows schemes. I started with C (Turbo C? Can't remember) and assembler. I remember going to the store and buying the IBM assembler package and being really excited, and get the BIOS manual with all of the BIOS code. Talk about spaghetti, I think they might have reused single bytes via jump sometimes. But 8K ain't a lot to work with. I'm guessing I also used Turbo Pascal some as well. I remember when I moved to OS/2. It used to drive me freaking crazy that the hard drive would start moving on its own. In DOS unless your program told the hard drive to do something it didn't do anything. I was constantly jerking around at the sound of the hard drive (and they were't quiet in those days) suddenly grinding on its own and having a moment of fear that something bad was happening.
Explorans limites defectum
Dean Roddey wrote:
the sound of the hard drive (and they were't quiet in those days) suddenly grinding on its own and having a moment of fear that something bad was happening
That's a nightmare I lived a couple of years ago, awakened in the middle of the night by a strange tick-tick-ticking sound coming from the home/office server. :omg: It was then that I realized it had been months since I did a complete backup. X| Lesson learned.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Yep. I shudder to think of how many MB I copied using that program. But it was very good at what it did.
Socialism is the Axe Body Spray of political ideologies: It never does what it claims to do, but people too young to know better keep buying it anyway. (Glenn Reynolds)
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I remember buying Visual C++ V1.0 myself, with my own money! Two foot thick shelf of books and a similar pile of pound notes ... :laugh:
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The one we had came on CDROM and we had to scramble to find someone with a portable CDROM drive. Install took freaking forever (the joys of 2x CDROMs)
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LapLink! Wow; I'm going to get floppy nightmares now!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
Forogar wrote:
floppy nightmares
Really - how about the dreaded 'token ring network' nightmares!
Socialism is the Axe Body Spray of political ideologies: It never does what it claims to do, but people too young to know better keep buying it anyway. (Glenn Reynolds)
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Command Prompt :)
“The palest ink is better than the best memory.” - Chinese Proverb
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I think there's only one application I've used on a daily basis for about twenty years now... Winamp! :D It still kicks (llama's) ass :D I'm still on v5.666 though (you think that version is a coincidence?), didn't recently bother to upgrade to the new "leaked" 5.8. And hell yes it's a productivity tool!
Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly
Sander Rossel wrote:
I think there's only one application I've used on a daily basis for about twenty years now... Winamp! :-D
+1
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
