The hands in the cookie jar
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
No respect for those binary "thinkers"
In fact, I am not leftist, nor rightist. More center. Maybe leaning a little on the left, but not that much. If you think otherwise of me, you are a binary "thinker". I don't care for left or right. I am member of absolutely no political party, nor do I give any money to them. I don't buy books "written" by politicians. Of any kind. I am critical of every politician, as most of them, regardless of what "side" they, and never trust them. At the last Canadian election, I scrapped my vote, effectively voting for no one (you may ask why I bother going to the voting booth, I don't want someone else to use my vote). At the last Québec provincial elections, I voted for the right. Yes, you read it well, I voted for the right. So, you still think I am a binary thinker? One more point: it is not because I don't agree with you that I am an idiot. It would be nice now if we could put aside insults and talk like reasonable adults.
Tronald J. Dump (R-Moscow) wrote:
I don't care for left or right. I am member of absolutely no political party, nor do I give any money to them. I don't buy books "written" by politicians. Of any kind.
Your post proves otherwise.
Tronald J. Dump (R-Moscow) wrote:
So, you still think I am a binary thinker?
Yes.
Tronald J. Dump (R-Moscow) wrote:
One more point: it is not because I don't agree with you that I am an idiot. It would be nice now if we could put aside insults and talk like reasonable adults.
Your name already implies a bias, we can as soon as you put your bias aside :thumbsup:
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Tronald J. Dump (R-Moscow) wrote:
I don't care for left or right. I am member of absolutely no political party, nor do I give any money to them. I don't buy books "written" by politicians. Of any kind.
Your post proves otherwise.
Tronald J. Dump (R-Moscow) wrote:
So, you still think I am a binary thinker?
Yes.
Tronald J. Dump (R-Moscow) wrote:
One more point: it is not because I don't agree with you that I am an idiot. It would be nice now if we could put aside insults and talk like reasonable adults.
Your name already implies a bias, we can as soon as you put your bias aside :thumbsup:
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
You really understand nothing. Because I am critical of Trump I am biased. I don't like him, he is an imbecile and a liar. Not because he represents the right.
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You really understand nothing. Because I am critical of Trump I am biased. I don't like him, he is an imbecile and a liar. Not because he represents the right.
Tronald J. Dump (R-Moscow) wrote:
You really understand nothing.
Look at my reputation point, you arrogant twat.
Tronald J. Dump (R-Moscow) wrote:
Because I am critical of Trump I am biased. I don't like him, he is an imbecile and a liar.
Exactly. You are blinded by hate, and have the intellect of the average pig. You should be reminded of that every turn. I have no problem with people being critical, I recommend it actually; as Socrates said, doubt everything. You OTOH aren't doubting everything, and are a thorn in my eyes. Get off my internet.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Just imagine Obama had a son-in-law and he got a loan guarantee of 800 M$. You would have seen conservatives tearing their shirts while yelling "Corruption!".
Yes, from political conviction, same level as religion, same stupidity. Doesn't mean he is not worth that. Every company has the freedom to give loans, given a free market. Jealous much?
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Tronald J. Dump (R-Moscow) wrote:
You really understand nothing.
Look at my reputation point, you arrogant twat.
Tronald J. Dump (R-Moscow) wrote:
Because I am critical of Trump I am biased. I don't like him, he is an imbecile and a liar.
Exactly. You are blinded by hate, and have the intellect of the average pig. You should be reminded of that every turn. I have no problem with people being critical, I recommend it actually; as Socrates said, doubt everything. You OTOH aren't doubting everything, and are a thorn in my eyes. Get off my internet.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
The insults keep on coming. You have nothing else to say.
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The insults keep on coming. You have nothing else to say.
You keep playing the victim, I'll keep dancing on the grave of your non-existing arguments. ..and will be teaching everyone how to cut down a pig. People without arguments are believers, whether they be religious or not. You will always find me there to oppose idiocy. You could not even manage ONE argument. You are here to push a political agenda like it were a religion. Get the fuck of my planet, you non sapiens-sapiens. --edit And I have a lot to say to the likes of you, but there's a code of conduct here binding me. I fart in your general direction :)
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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You keep playing the victim, I'll keep dancing on the grave of your non-existing arguments. ..and will be teaching everyone how to cut down a pig. People without arguments are believers, whether they be religious or not. You will always find me there to oppose idiocy. You could not even manage ONE argument. You are here to push a political agenda like it were a religion. Get the fuck of my planet, you non sapiens-sapiens. --edit And I have a lot to say to the likes of you, but there's a code of conduct here binding me. I fart in your general direction :)
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
You keep playing the victim,
I tried to explain to you my point of view, but it did not go through. Maybe you're thick, maybe you're drunk, maybe both. I give up.
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You keep playing the victim, I'll keep dancing on the grave of your non-existing arguments. ..and will be teaching everyone how to cut down a pig. People without arguments are believers, whether they be religious or not. You will always find me there to oppose idiocy. You could not even manage ONE argument. You are here to push a political agenda like it were a religion. Get the fuck of my planet, you non sapiens-sapiens. --edit And I have a lot to say to the likes of you, but there's a code of conduct here binding me. I fart in your general direction :)
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
fart in your general direction
:thumbsup: My grandpa used to say that. Had my brother and I in stitches every time he said it. Nice. :)
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
You keep playing the victim,
I tried to explain to you my point of view, but it did not go through. Maybe you're thick, maybe you're drunk, maybe both. I give up.
Tronald J. Dump (R-Moscow) wrote:
I tried to explain to you my point of view, but it did not go through. Maybe you're thick, maybe you're drunk, maybe both. I give up.
Neither, and I will oppose your nonsense with everything I am. No quarter will be given to the religious. I will haunt you on this forum for all the time you are here, because idiots should not be given quarter in any form. For every drivel you spout, I will oppose you with arguments. Your kind is to be extinguished. And in time, you will be. There is no alternative for mankind.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
fart in your general direction
:thumbsup: My grandpa used to say that. Had my brother and I in stitches every time he said it. Nice. :)
Slacker007 wrote:
:thumbsup: My grandpa used to say that. Had my brother and I in stitches every time he said it. Nice. :)
Thanks for reminding me of my age :D
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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[Kushner Cos. Gets $800 Million Federally Backed Apartment Loan](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-23/kushner-cos-gets-800-million-federally-backed-apartment-loan)
"The loan was issued by Berkadia, a lender co-owned by Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway Inc. and Jefferies Financial Group Inc., in a deal that’s backed by government-owned Freddie Mac" Hahaha, you are desperate!
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DRHuff wrote:
Hey - how did those European elections turn out?
Good, less and less Europeans voting for it, and the anti-EU parties are getting more votes from those who do show up. The EU is the best thing that could have happened; it will leave a mark that will last as long as the last war. The EU is the best advertising against itself since it was born :thumbsup: We are not the United States that the US are, nor will we ever be.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
We are not the United States that the US are, nor will we ever be.
Apparently so - most of Europe is slipping back into the fascist frame of mind that is the hallmark of its history. I sure wish those Oceans were wider. So frequently you squeeze in an opportunity to criticize the US/it's citizens. The valid conclusion is that things must be really shit where you are and you love trying to pretend it's worse elsewhere. Who knows - perhaps you'll be even more bitter after you accept that truth. Judging from the tenor of the posts in an early food-fight (with Tonald J. Dump - in the main thread), you appear to fit right in with the various Euro-Goose-Stepper-Wanna-be's.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Did you read the article, or just the headline? It's a loan from a business that uses Freddie Mac as a guarantor. I mean, the alternative for them would be like you or I trying to find a bank in the US that isn't covered by the FDIC to get a loan... Can you be mad about the stuff you're actually mad about, or is your hatred so shallow that you need to make stuff up?
"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor
FDIC is not Freddy Mac. If it were, there would be no problem. But it's not - so there is. Simplified - one is an insurer against bank collapses (for depositors), the other is a financial institution involved in loan-making.[^]
Nathan Minier wrote:
Did you read the article, or just the headline?
I think you ought rethink your comments, above and below.* * if you support Hump, no matter what, you are free to not bother learning why the loan is yet another problem.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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"The loan was issued by Berkadia, a lender co-owned by Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway Inc. and Jefferies Financial Group Inc., in a deal that’s backed by government-owned Freddie Mac" Hahaha, you are desperate!
That's the problem - the government owned Freddie Mac is owned b the government - and look who's minding the (treasury) store!. Basically, taxpayers are backing an $800M speculative loan. Perhaps you ought to look up the FSLIC fiasco - how taxpayers bailed out the real-estate speculators. Essentially, it lets them gamble and keep the profits - and if they lose - we pay the debt. So - for the Hump-controlled Freddie-Mac to give his son-in-law a huge loan like this is, at the very least, unsavory. And despite what Hump's thrall-supporters think, it's still NOT alright to use one's political office to make a profit. ANYONE else in the executive branch would be fired (by law!) for that practice.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Just imagine Obama had a son-in-law and he got a loan guarantee of 800 M$. You would have seen conservatives tearing their shirts while yelling "Corruption!".
Why the hell would anyone care if a company that used to be run by Obama's son-in-law got a loan. From a bank. Do you think that means that he can just default and the debt is gone? I mean, do you seriously not know how loans work?
"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor
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That's the problem - the government owned Freddie Mac is owned b the government - and look who's minding the (treasury) store!. Basically, taxpayers are backing an $800M speculative loan. Perhaps you ought to look up the FSLIC fiasco - how taxpayers bailed out the real-estate speculators. Essentially, it lets them gamble and keep the profits - and if they lose - we pay the debt. So - for the Hump-controlled Freddie-Mac to give his son-in-law a huge loan like this is, at the very least, unsavory. And despite what Hump's thrall-supporters think, it's still NOT alright to use one's political office to make a profit. ANYONE else in the executive branch would be fired (by law!) for that practice.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
Freddie isnt Trump controlled, it is a government backed lender set up by Clinton to lend money to poor people. If it wants to lend to someone that is there choice, nothing to do with Trump.
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FDIC is not Freddy Mac. If it were, there would be no problem. But it's not - so there is. Simplified - one is an insurer against bank collapses (for depositors), the other is a financial institution involved in loan-making.[^]
Nathan Minier wrote:
Did you read the article, or just the headline?
I think you ought rethink your comments, above and below.* * if you support Hump, no matter what, you are free to not bother learning why the loan is yet another problem.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
The comparison is valid; it's about the relationship between the lenders and the federal entities, not about what they do. Unless you're claiming that banks do not make loans using the money deposited with them and insured to the consumer by the FDIC. The real difference between these 2 is whom the insurance coverage goes to: the FDIC is consumer-facing while Freddie Mac is business-facing. You have no idea what you're talking about on this one, Bal, and your TDS is showing. Like I said, shallow hatred.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor
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The comparison is valid; it's about the relationship between the lenders and the federal entities, not about what they do. Unless you're claiming that banks do not make loans using the money deposited with them and insured to the consumer by the FDIC. The real difference between these 2 is whom the insurance coverage goes to: the FDIC is consumer-facing while Freddie Mac is business-facing. You have no idea what you're talking about on this one, Bal, and your TDS is showing. Like I said, shallow hatred.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor
You don't seem to grasp that there's a world of difference between insuring depositors against bank failures and insuring banks against individual loan defaults. From your description, you thing these are somehow the same because of how you couch overlaps in their services (i.e., they both are insurance of sorts). They are quite fundamentally different concepts in who they protect and what they're protecting.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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You don't seem to grasp that there's a world of difference between insuring depositors against bank failures and insuring banks against individual loan defaults. From your description, you thing these are somehow the same because of how you couch overlaps in their services (i.e., they both are insurance of sorts). They are quite fundamentally different concepts in who they protect and what they're protecting.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
Okay, and how does that change the fact that the market penetration of Freddie Mac with real estate lenders is comparable to the market penetration for consumer banks by the FDIC? I'll wait.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor
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Freddie isnt Trump controlled, it is a government backed lender set up by Clinton to lend money to poor people. If it wants to lend to someone that is there choice, nothing to do with Trump.
Look it up in the Wikipedia - it's been around. Why you attribute it to Clinton shall ever remain a mystery. Perhaps a knee-jerk reaction of some sort. Trump controls the executive branch - appoints the Secretary of Treasury. The treasury manages the nation's money. Similarly, he appoints the various cabinet posts that have to do with housing (which would have it's hands on the Federally managed loan guarantors). So - they all take their orders from the chief executive. And if you don't listen you get fired. Are you beginning to see the connection? More correctly stated, are you even willing to see the connection? As a staunch support of the Hump, I'd say the answer you'll give to both is "No".
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010