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    ... in Switzerland (I'm aware, a borderline case Lounge or Soapbox. Last but not least, I decided for Lounge because it's a very technical thing) A lot of people here do demonstrate against 5G. Their argument: Longtime "Health impacts" have not been researched and excluded for 5G. Now my question: Was this the case for 3G or 4G? My answer: No. So please throw away your 3/4G mobile phone and demonstrate against all mobile communication please ;p What is your opinion/expirience?

    It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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      ... in Switzerland (I'm aware, a borderline case Lounge or Soapbox. Last but not least, I decided for Lounge because it's a very technical thing) A lot of people here do demonstrate against 5G. Their argument: Longtime "Health impacts" have not been researched and excluded for 5G. Now my question: Was this the case for 3G or 4G? My answer: No. So please throw away your 3/4G mobile phone and demonstrate against all mobile communication please ;p What is your opinion/expirience?

      It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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      0x01AA wrote:

      Was this the case for 3G or 4G?

      Amusingly, it's studies from Switzerland (IIRC) that are used in demonstrations here (USA) against cell phone technologies. [edit] And regarding the technical side (promoting your reason to post in the lounge, haha), a decent read (at least for the layman) here: What Is 5G? | PCMag.com[^] . [/edit]

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        0x01AA wrote:

        Was this the case for 3G or 4G?

        Amusingly, it's studies from Switzerland (IIRC) that are used in demonstrations here (USA) against cell phone technologies. [edit] And regarding the technical side (promoting your reason to post in the lounge, haha), a decent read (at least for the layman) here: What Is 5G? | PCMag.com[^] . [/edit]

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        studies from Switzerland

        *lol*, here in Switzerland 'everybody' refer to the studies from USA.

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        promoting your reason to post in the lounge, haha

        Thanks for the promotion

        It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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          ... in Switzerland (I'm aware, a borderline case Lounge or Soapbox. Last but not least, I decided for Lounge because it's a very technical thing) A lot of people here do demonstrate against 5G. Their argument: Longtime "Health impacts" have not been researched and excluded for 5G. Now my question: Was this the case for 3G or 4G? My answer: No. So please throw away your 3/4G mobile phone and demonstrate against all mobile communication please ;p What is your opinion/expirience?

          It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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          My father told a (potentially apocryphal) story which (may or may not have) happened the 50s (?) regarding the dangers of radio signals. An engineer was asked to participate in a study of the dangers of radio signals -- so he demonstrated the dangers to the committee (I don't recall the details, killing a mouse maybe). Then the chairman responded (something along the lines of): "That's all well and good, but we want to assure people that it is safe."

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            ... in Switzerland (I'm aware, a borderline case Lounge or Soapbox. Last but not least, I decided for Lounge because it's a very technical thing) A lot of people here do demonstrate against 5G. Their argument: Longtime "Health impacts" have not been researched and excluded for 5G. Now my question: Was this the case for 3G or 4G? My answer: No. So please throw away your 3/4G mobile phone and demonstrate against all mobile communication please ;p What is your opinion/expirience?

            It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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            From what I understand from the one show I watched on the "dangers of 5G" (key weird music), the issue has to do with the beam steering and higher relative power levels. I mean, you *do* have an RF device next to your brain. Is it sufficient power levels? Track the studies and especially who is paying for them - both pro and con. Me? I'm far more concerned with the VB project I just inherited :)

            Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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              My father told a (potentially apocryphal) story which (may or may not have) happened the 50s (?) regarding the dangers of radio signals. An engineer was asked to participate in a study of the dangers of radio signals -- so he demonstrated the dangers to the committee (I don't recall the details, killing a mouse maybe). Then the chairman responded (something along the lines of): "That's all well and good, but we want to assure people that it is safe."

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              Paracelsus: All things are poison, and nothing is without poison; but the dose makes it clear that a thing is not a poison. Electronics in praxis : Epic Fail Compilation |Electricity hates me1/3 - YouTube[^] :-D

              It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                From what I understand from the one show I watched on the "dangers of 5G" (key weird music), the issue has to do with the beam steering and higher relative power levels. I mean, you *do* have an RF device next to your brain. Is it sufficient power levels? Track the studies and especially who is paying for them - both pro and con. Me? I'm far more concerned with the VB project I just inherited :)

                Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                concerned with the VB project I just inherited

                Here most probably you have the right to get risk supplement for a VB project ;P :laugh:

                It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                  ... in Switzerland (I'm aware, a borderline case Lounge or Soapbox. Last but not least, I decided for Lounge because it's a very technical thing) A lot of people here do demonstrate against 5G. Their argument: Longtime "Health impacts" have not been researched and excluded for 5G. Now my question: Was this the case for 3G or 4G? My answer: No. So please throw away your 3/4G mobile phone and demonstrate against all mobile communication please ;p What is your opinion/expirience?

                  It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                  theoldfool
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                  That is why my tin foil hat business is so profitable. Supplemented by my credit card RFID proof wallets. :cool:

                  If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.

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                    That is why my tin foil hat business is so profitable. Supplemented by my credit card RFID proof wallets. :cool:

                    If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.

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                    If you want to supplement that income get yourself a rigged geiger counter like do-dad, when the tin-foilers gather point it at some money and set it off: - convinced their cash is radioactive they'll throw it away ... and well you collect it (into your lead lined bag of course - no need to take risks). be kind though: demo the big notes as "more radioactive" [so the government can track and count them], ya should let them have the 1's and change so they can still buy food (and hats).

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                      If you want to supplement that income get yourself a rigged geiger counter like do-dad, when the tin-foilers gather point it at some money and set it off: - convinced their cash is radioactive they'll throw it away ... and well you collect it (into your lead lined bag of course - no need to take risks). be kind though: demo the big notes as "more radioactive" [so the government can track and count them], ya should let them have the 1's and change so they can still buy food (and hats).

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                      lopati: roaming wrote:

                      demo the big notes as "more radioactive" [so the government can track and count them], ya should let them have the 1's and change so they can still buy food (and hats).

                      Nah, let the bloody fools starve!

                      Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                        lopati: roaming wrote:

                        demo the big notes as "more radioactive" [so the government can track and count them], ya should let them have the 1's and change so they can still buy food (and hats).

                        Nah, let the bloody fools starve!

                        Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                        No, no - you need to rethink your marketing model. Just like inkjet printers, you want to fleece the client repeatedly for maximum profit. Dead people don't give repeat business - so you have to spend more to acquire new ones each time (and leave a trail of bodies which gets the authorities interested in the scam you are pulling).

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                          ... in Switzerland (I'm aware, a borderline case Lounge or Soapbox. Last but not least, I decided for Lounge because it's a very technical thing) A lot of people here do demonstrate against 5G. Their argument: Longtime "Health impacts" have not been researched and excluded for 5G. Now my question: Was this the case for 3G or 4G? My answer: No. So please throw away your 3/4G mobile phone and demonstrate against all mobile communication please ;p What is your opinion/expirience?

                          It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                          Can a microwave power a plane? - Bang Goes The Theory - BBC One 5G Transmitter Radiation Dangers [Is 5G Safe? - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1hkv2Upww) [Swiss fear effects of 5G antennas - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX36c7J3WGo) [THEY DO ΝOT WANT YOU SΕΕ THIS!! - CELL PHONE ΤOWERS ΕXΡOSED! - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii82I1IzFRY) [5G Simplified Based Station To The Rescue - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOvsY\_ONEnU) [NXP 5G Wireless Infrastructure - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzekQfoxlMw) [EU 5G Appeal – Scientists warn of potential serious health effects of 5G – JRS Eco Wireless](https://www.jrseco.com/european-union-5g-appeal-scientists-warn-of-potential-serious-health-effects-of-5g/)

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                            ... in Switzerland (I'm aware, a borderline case Lounge or Soapbox. Last but not least, I decided for Lounge because it's a very technical thing) A lot of people here do demonstrate against 5G. Their argument: Longtime "Health impacts" have not been researched and excluded for 5G. Now my question: Was this the case for 3G or 4G? My answer: No. So please throw away your 3/4G mobile phone and demonstrate against all mobile communication please ;p What is your opinion/expirience?

                            It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                            I am probably part of the tin-foil hat brigade as after watching one talk I decided to always take my phone of out my pocket when I am driving, or in a moving vehicle, due to the boost in signal as the car crosses over cell boundaries.

                            “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                            ― Christopher Hitchens

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                              ... in Switzerland (I'm aware, a borderline case Lounge or Soapbox. Last but not least, I decided for Lounge because it's a very technical thing) A lot of people here do demonstrate against 5G. Their argument: Longtime "Health impacts" have not been researched and excluded for 5G. Now my question: Was this the case for 3G or 4G? My answer: No. So please throw away your 3/4G mobile phone and demonstrate against all mobile communication please ;p What is your opinion/expirience?

                              It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                              Ha, these already reached 5.6 G: Top Fuel - Wikipedia[^] :-\

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                                ... in Switzerland (I'm aware, a borderline case Lounge or Soapbox. Last but not least, I decided for Lounge because it's a very technical thing) A lot of people here do demonstrate against 5G. Their argument: Longtime "Health impacts" have not been researched and excluded for 5G. Now my question: Was this the case for 3G or 4G? My answer: No. So please throw away your 3/4G mobile phone and demonstrate against all mobile communication please ;p What is your opinion/expirience?

                                It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                                I'm sure that 5G will lead to a great many deaths, though probably not from people getting their brains fried by signals. A quick glance around any street will reveal hundreds of zombies glued to their phones when they ought to be looking at the road that they are driving down or the one that they are crossing. Now, imagine that these people are actually looking at something immersive rather than simply worrying about whether they've got any likes on Twitface and a picture of intense carnage emerges. So, where do I stand on 5G? CON: Millions will die PRO: The phombie apocalypse might have found a cure. Swings and roundabouts, I guess ...

                                Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain

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                                  ... in Switzerland (I'm aware, a borderline case Lounge or Soapbox. Last but not least, I decided for Lounge because it's a very technical thing) A lot of people here do demonstrate against 5G. Their argument: Longtime "Health impacts" have not been researched and excluded for 5G. Now my question: Was this the case for 3G or 4G? My answer: No. So please throw away your 3/4G mobile phone and demonstrate against all mobile communication please ;p What is your opinion/expirience?

                                  It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                                  My name is Chicken Little, and the sky is falling on my head! Typically we are all exposed to between 3 and 6 mSv/a, unless you are a frequent flyer in which case you are probably dead by now.:rose: :laugh: The US is at the top of the range, and most of the rest of the world at the bottom end. All we need to do is figure out if radiation damage is higher in the US than in the rest of the world - which I doubt - and then figure out how much extra mSv/a 5G will give us, and if it will put the rest of the world above US levels. I don't like to mention the four thousand trillion neutrinos passing through our bodies each day, so I won't. :omg: :laugh:

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                                    My name is Chicken Little, and the sky is falling on my head! Typically we are all exposed to between 3 and 6 mSv/a, unless you are a frequent flyer in which case you are probably dead by now.:rose: :laugh: The US is at the top of the range, and most of the rest of the world at the bottom end. All we need to do is figure out if radiation damage is higher in the US than in the rest of the world - which I doubt - and then figure out how much extra mSv/a 5G will give us, and if it will put the rest of the world above US levels. I don't like to mention the four thousand trillion neutrinos passing through our bodies each day, so I won't. :omg: :laugh:

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                                    Classic Movie Quote:

                                    Ra-di-a-tion. Yes, indeed. You hear the most outrageous lies about it. Half-baked goggle-box do-gooders telling everybody it's bad for you. Pernicious nonsense! Everybody could stand a hundred chest X-rays a year! They oughta have 'em, too.

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                                      ... in Switzerland (I'm aware, a borderline case Lounge or Soapbox. Last but not least, I decided for Lounge because it's a very technical thing) A lot of people here do demonstrate against 5G. Their argument: Longtime "Health impacts" have not been researched and excluded for 5G. Now my question: Was this the case for 3G or 4G? My answer: No. So please throw away your 3/4G mobile phone and demonstrate against all mobile communication please ;p What is your opinion/expirience?

                                      It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                                      Oxygen has ill effects in the long term. So they should stop breathing, too.

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                                        ... in Switzerland (I'm aware, a borderline case Lounge or Soapbox. Last but not least, I decided for Lounge because it's a very technical thing) A lot of people here do demonstrate against 5G. Their argument: Longtime "Health impacts" have not been researched and excluded for 5G. Now my question: Was this the case for 3G or 4G? My answer: No. So please throw away your 3/4G mobile phone and demonstrate against all mobile communication please ;p What is your opinion/expirience?

                                        It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                                        Don't know about the health impacts, but apparently it will seriously mess up the weather forecasts: Global 5G wireless networks threaten weather forecasts[^]


                                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                                          Don't know about the health impacts, but apparently it will seriously mess up the weather forecasts: Global 5G wireless networks threaten weather forecasts[^]


                                          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                          :thumbsup:That is an interesting one.

                                          It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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