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  • abmvA abmv

    call a meeting.. and minute it out...

    Caveat Emptor. "Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    I reply to most meeting invitations with, "please just send your questions in an e-mail so I can respond in detail", but it seems many can't even order their thoughts enough to write their questions.

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      Do you have people in your organization that only respond to the first question in an email? :mad: This bugs the *shart* out of me. I took the time to compose the email. I carefully thought through the specific questions I wanted answered before communicating them... and nothing, no response other than to the first question. So, if I stopped building the application at the login screen, they would be good with that. I think not! Maybe I should just adopt their approach? I would be able to get through more emails in a more timely manner by only answering the first question. Please note that this is the second question in my post, so feel free not to answer. :cool:

      “The palest ink is better than the best memory.” - Chinese Proverb

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      Kent Sharkey
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      Yes, it's pretty much a guarantee (at one of my customers). Even when I comment on it, they'll still only answer one. I do tend to send multiple one-question emails because of it.

      TTFN - Kent

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      • L littleGreenDude

        Do you have people in your organization that only respond to the first question in an email? :mad: This bugs the *shart* out of me. I took the time to compose the email. I carefully thought through the specific questions I wanted answered before communicating them... and nothing, no response other than to the first question. So, if I stopped building the application at the login screen, they would be good with that. I think not! Maybe I should just adopt their approach? I would be able to get through more emails in a more timely manner by only answering the first question. Please note that this is the second question in my post, so feel free not to answer. :cool:

        “The palest ink is better than the best memory.” - Chinese Proverb

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        Phil J Pearson
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        Yes, it's a constant problem. :mad: Sometimes I send multiple emails with just one question each but that just seems so silly. Usually I put the questions (as short as I can make them) in a numbered or bulleted list. Then, if necessary. I'll reply something like, "Thank you. I will continue to work on this task when I also get answers to questions 2, 3 and 4." Never be so foolish as to put more than one question in one sentence, or even in one paragraph.

        Phil


        The opinions expressed in this post are not necessarily those of the author, especially if you find them impolite, inaccurate or inflammatory.

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        • L littleGreenDude

          Do you have people in your organization that only respond to the first question in an email? :mad: This bugs the *shart* out of me. I took the time to compose the email. I carefully thought through the specific questions I wanted answered before communicating them... and nothing, no response other than to the first question. So, if I stopped building the application at the login screen, they would be good with that. I think not! Maybe I should just adopt their approach? I would be able to get through more emails in a more timely manner by only answering the first question. Please note that this is the second question in my post, so feel free not to answer. :cool:

          “The palest ink is better than the best memory.” - Chinese Proverb

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          Ron Anders
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          Oh I hate that.

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          • L littleGreenDude

            Do you have people in your organization that only respond to the first question in an email? :mad: This bugs the *shart* out of me. I took the time to compose the email. I carefully thought through the specific questions I wanted answered before communicating them... and nothing, no response other than to the first question. So, if I stopped building the application at the login screen, they would be good with that. I think not! Maybe I should just adopt their approach? I would be able to get through more emails in a more timely manner by only answering the first question. Please note that this is the second question in my post, so feel free not to answer. :cool:

            “The palest ink is better than the best memory.” - Chinese Proverb

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            Sander Rossel
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            Yeah, people are a PITA, especially customers. I've once read some advice to only ask one question per email and put that question in the very last sentence. No "thanks in advance" or "looking forward to your reply", just end with the question. The quickest way to get an answer is usually to walk up to them or pick up the phone. And, if you do that, don't forget to confirm their answers in an email or they'll deny everything they answered next week. I'm saving up to go with early retirement, become a hermit, and never deal with people again :D

            Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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            • L littleGreenDude

              Do you have people in your organization that only respond to the first question in an email? :mad: This bugs the *shart* out of me. I took the time to compose the email. I carefully thought through the specific questions I wanted answered before communicating them... and nothing, no response other than to the first question. So, if I stopped building the application at the login screen, they would be good with that. I think not! Maybe I should just adopt their approach? I would be able to get through more emails in a more timely manner by only answering the first question. Please note that this is the second question in my post, so feel free not to answer. :cool:

              “The palest ink is better than the best memory.” - Chinese Proverb

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              grralph1
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              Yep know how you feel. I use a numbered list with a "Your response to Question n:" after each question and then ask them to respond within the body of my email. That way I know what question they are responding to as well in their response. Otherwise you are often wondering what their answer is and to which question it relates to. One question at a time is not only tedious but extra work as some answers will eradicate other questions in the list. I always think, gee, how come they are not embarrassed by their response. I would be. It is not just bad communication, more like they just don't care.

              "Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980

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                Yep know how you feel. I use a numbered list with a "Your response to Question n:" after each question and then ask them to respond within the body of my email. That way I know what question they are responding to as well in their response. Otherwise you are often wondering what their answer is and to which question it relates to. One question at a time is not only tedious but extra work as some answers will eradicate other questions in the list. I always think, gee, how come they are not embarrassed by their response. I would be. It is not just bad communication, more like they just don't care.

                "Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980

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                DumpsterJuice
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                Short attention span. I get meeting requests with nothing but a subject, and a time. Keep It Simple, keep it moving.

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                • L littleGreenDude

                  Do you have people in your organization that only respond to the first question in an email? :mad: This bugs the *shart* out of me. I took the time to compose the email. I carefully thought through the specific questions I wanted answered before communicating them... and nothing, no response other than to the first question. So, if I stopped building the application at the login screen, they would be good with that. I think not! Maybe I should just adopt their approach? I would be able to get through more emails in a more timely manner by only answering the first question. Please note that this is the second question in my post, so feel free not to answer. :cool:

                  “The palest ink is better than the best memory.” - Chinese Proverb

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                  loctrice
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                  Wait how often do you use email? Yeesh.

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                  • L littleGreenDude

                    Do you have people in your organization that only respond to the first question in an email? :mad: This bugs the *shart* out of me. I took the time to compose the email. I carefully thought through the specific questions I wanted answered before communicating them... and nothing, no response other than to the first question. So, if I stopped building the application at the login screen, they would be good with that. I think not! Maybe I should just adopt their approach? I would be able to get through more emails in a more timely manner by only answering the first question. Please note that this is the second question in my post, so feel free not to answer. :cool:

                    “The palest ink is better than the best memory.” - Chinese Proverb

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                    ZurdoDev
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                    I agree. When I ask multiple questions I bullet point them with numerals and they will still not answer all of them. :doh:

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                    • L littleGreenDude

                      Do you have people in your organization that only respond to the first question in an email? :mad: This bugs the *shart* out of me. I took the time to compose the email. I carefully thought through the specific questions I wanted answered before communicating them... and nothing, no response other than to the first question. So, if I stopped building the application at the login screen, they would be good with that. I think not! Maybe I should just adopt their approach? I would be able to get through more emails in a more timely manner by only answering the first question. Please note that this is the second question in my post, so feel free not to answer. :cool:

                      “The palest ink is better than the best memory.” - Chinese Proverb

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                      ScarryJerry
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                      Well, just call the person, if it is one person. Otherwise emails / text are a waste of time. Especially if no one understands the etiquette associated with them.

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                      • L littleGreenDude

                        Do you have people in your organization that only respond to the first question in an email? :mad: This bugs the *shart* out of me. I took the time to compose the email. I carefully thought through the specific questions I wanted answered before communicating them... and nothing, no response other than to the first question. So, if I stopped building the application at the login screen, they would be good with that. I think not! Maybe I should just adopt their approach? I would be able to get through more emails in a more timely manner by only answering the first question. Please note that this is the second question in my post, so feel free not to answer. :cool:

                        “The palest ink is better than the best memory.” - Chinese Proverb

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                        Gerardo Orozco
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                        Don't take it personal, they have "short-circuit evaluation" turned-on by default ;)

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                        • L littleGreenDude

                          Do you have people in your organization that only respond to the first question in an email? :mad: This bugs the *shart* out of me. I took the time to compose the email. I carefully thought through the specific questions I wanted answered before communicating them... and nothing, no response other than to the first question. So, if I stopped building the application at the login screen, they would be good with that. I think not! Maybe I should just adopt their approach? I would be able to get through more emails in a more timely manner by only answering the first question. Please note that this is the second question in my post, so feel free not to answer. :cool:

                          “The palest ink is better than the best memory.” - Chinese Proverb

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                          jerryr4
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                          My daughters are also in such an organisation Jerry

                          There's never time to do anything properly, there's always time to do it twice

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                          • L littleGreenDude

                            Do you have people in your organization that only respond to the first question in an email? :mad: This bugs the *shart* out of me. I took the time to compose the email. I carefully thought through the specific questions I wanted answered before communicating them... and nothing, no response other than to the first question. So, if I stopped building the application at the login screen, they would be good with that. I think not! Maybe I should just adopt their approach? I would be able to get through more emails in a more timely manner by only answering the first question. Please note that this is the second question in my post, so feel free not to answer. :cool:

                            “The palest ink is better than the best memory.” - Chinese Proverb

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                            virang_21
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                            I usually put numbers against my questions that way it is clear that I want answer to all these questions. You can pick the question index starting at 0 or 1.

                            Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf * Maths is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.

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                            • L littleGreenDude

                              Do you have people in your organization that only respond to the first question in an email? :mad: This bugs the *shart* out of me. I took the time to compose the email. I carefully thought through the specific questions I wanted answered before communicating them... and nothing, no response other than to the first question. So, if I stopped building the application at the login screen, they would be good with that. I think not! Maybe I should just adopt their approach? I would be able to get through more emails in a more timely manner by only answering the first question. Please note that this is the second question in my post, so feel free not to answer. :cool:

                              “The palest ink is better than the best memory.” - Chinese Proverb

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                              DerekT P
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                              yes, and it drives me bonkers. As others have said, I've taken the time to ask the questions; I wouldn't ask them if I didn't need the answers; you're the one who will suffer if I make a wrong assumption or am delayed because you don't answer. It just makes no sense to me. Then again, (outside of work) I have a supervisor who refuses to make any type of decision, ever, or express any opinion, or do anything for which he could he held responsible. I've been off sick for a few weeks, now ready to return, and wanted to do a half-day as a gentle way back in. The rostering system doesn't include half-day duties, you have to ask for them to be setup. I emailed stating I was recovering well and "would you please set up a half-day turn for me on the system." After 72 hours he responded thus: "Noted. Thank you for the update". WTF?? :wtf: :confused:

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                              • L littleGreenDude

                                Do you have people in your organization that only respond to the first question in an email? :mad: This bugs the *shart* out of me. I took the time to compose the email. I carefully thought through the specific questions I wanted answered before communicating them... and nothing, no response other than to the first question. So, if I stopped building the application at the login screen, they would be good with that. I think not! Maybe I should just adopt their approach? I would be able to get through more emails in a more timely manner by only answering the first question. Please note that this is the second question in my post, so feel free not to answer. :cool:

                                “The palest ink is better than the best memory.” - Chinese Proverb

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                                Dr Walt Fair PE
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                                NO, you figure which the response is to, because I don{t give a WTf

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