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When people blindly rely on technology without using their own common sense

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  • D Dominic Burford

    clickety[^] The rarest commodity of them all.......common sense

    "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter

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    Lost User
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    had the same with a NavMan, offered shortest route up a steep hill on a well corrigated loose metal road - the main road (2 lanes each way_ was only 2 km longer and being smooth much faster. it's just common sense: for instance ask any software what is the fastest way down a 20 floor building, answer is out the window isn't it - fastest path, straightest line, so why make a fuss that it's not what's expected. 100% operator error - you get what you ask for, blaming google for getting such is just whining. (another good reference: Deep Thought.)

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      They do it all the time: 16 mind-boggling sat nav fails[^]

      Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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      Some of those are brilliant :laugh:

      "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter

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      • D Dominic Burford

        Some of those are brilliant :laugh:

        "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter

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        ... unlike the drivers ... :-D

        Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
        "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

          Maybe: if you use a map, you have to know how to use a map... Google Maps are not Waze...

          "The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012

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          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

          if you use a map, you have to know how to use a map

          The story doesn't give enough details, but how would "knowing how to use a map" have solved anything here? The map showed a road that led to the airport.

          Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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          • D Dominic Burford

            Google Maps can't tell you the current state of the road. If it's been raining recently and the road is impassable due to mud, Google maps can't tell you that. The driver needs to take responsibility, and determine if the suggested route is suitable for their vehicle.

            "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter

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            Dominic Burford wrote:

            If it's been raining recently and the road is impassable due to mud, Google maps can't tell you that. The driver needs to take responsibility, and determine if the suggested route is suitable for their vehicle.

            That is true. But the story really didn't give enough details to know what really happened.

            Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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              Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

              if you use a map, you have to know how to use a map

              The story doesn't give enough details, but how would "knowing how to use a map" have solved anything here? The map showed a road that led to the airport.

              Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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              Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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              Would you ever ask a map to tell you what road to take, or would you check the possible road and pick one for yourself... Look at the map and find the road: Google Maps[^] Google Maps 'saw' a road (but Google Maps is not a vehicles only map) between E-470 and Jakson Gap St., can you?

              "The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012

              "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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              • D Dominic Burford

                clickety[^] The rarest commodity of them all.......common sense

                "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter

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                The [^] links right back to the Lounge (for me, it's an empty href)... I agree, common sense is a rare commodity here :laugh:

                Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                  The [^] links right back to the Lounge (for me, it's an empty href)... I agree, common sense is a rare commodity here :laugh:

                  Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                  Only the [^] part, the 'clickety' part takes you right to the muddy fields of Denver...

                  "The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012

                  "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                    Dominic Burford wrote:

                    If it's been raining recently and the road is impassable due to mud, Google maps can't tell you that. The driver needs to take responsibility, and determine if the suggested route is suitable for their vehicle.

                    That is true. But the story really didn't give enough details to know what really happened.

                    Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                    Dominic Burford
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                    The story gave all the information anyone needed. There was a long queue of traffic to the airport, so some people decided to try to find an alternative route using Google maps. That route happended to be very muddy, but the drivers continued anyway.

                    "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter

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                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                      The [^] links right back to the Lounge (for me, it's an empty href)... I agree, common sense is a rare commodity here :laugh:

                      Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                      Dominic Burford
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                      Try this Denver drivers followed Google's detour down a dirt road - BBC News[^]

                      "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter

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                      • D Dominic Burford

                        clickety[^] The rarest commodity of them all.......common sense

                        "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter

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                        Maybe Google was just being fair to the dirt road? Showing only paved roads and highways to a destination shows bias. :laugh:

                        "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                        • Z ZurdoDev

                          Dominic Burford wrote:

                          common sense

                          It's common sense to know when google is wrong?

                          Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                          CodeWraith
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                          Yes, it is, because not all misinformation on Google is there by accident.

                          I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                          • Z ZurdoDev

                            Dominic Burford wrote:

                            common sense

                            It's common sense to know when google is wrong?

                            Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                            kalberts
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                            ZurdoDev wrote:

                            It's common sense to know when google is wrong?

                            Then I have a lot of common sense!

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                            • D Dominic Burford

                              The story gave all the information anyone needed. There was a long queue of traffic to the airport, so some people decided to try to find an alternative route using Google maps. That route happended to be very muddy, but the drivers continued anyway.

                              "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter

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                              ZurdoDev
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                              Dominic Burford wrote:

                              That route happended to be very muddy, but the drivers continued anyway.

                              Actually, it did not say that. It said that some drivers got into a "muddy mess." Which means absolutely nothing.

                              Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                              • D Dominic Burford

                                clickety[^] The rarest commodity of them all.......common sense

                                "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter

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                                kalberts
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                                In the old days, people blindly replied on what their priest was saying witout using their own common sense. Personally, I think that could have far more grave consequences that getting your car stuck in the mud after heavy rain.

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                                  Dominic Burford wrote:

                                  That route happended to be very muddy, but the drivers continued anyway.

                                  Actually, it did not say that. It said that some drivers got into a "muddy mess." Which means absolutely nothing.

                                  Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                  Dominic Burford
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                                  To get into a muddy mess requires mud. And there was even images of the muddy road on the clip.

                                  "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter

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                                  • D Dominic Burford

                                    To get into a muddy mess requires mud. And there was even images of the muddy road on the clip.

                                    "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter

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                                    ZurdoDev
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                                    Dominic Burford wrote:

                                    To get into a muddy mess requires mud. And there was even images of the muddy road on the clip.

                                    First off, you might actually be right. However, that "article" was so poorly written and so quickly put together that no, you can't know anything conclusively. For example, that mud could have been from anywhere. And getting into a "muddy mess" does not even mean they got stuck. If you drive through a muddy puddle you are in a muddy mess. It's a piece of crap reporting.

                                    Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                    • D Dominic Burford

                                      Google Maps can't tell you the current state of the road. If it's been raining recently and the road is impassable due to mud, Google maps can't tell you that. The driver needs to take responsibility, and determine if the suggested route is suitable for their vehicle.

                                      "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter

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                                      Rick York
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                                      I used to live on a farm and that kind of thing was common around there. I would look at the maps for my area and see lots of "roads" that were actually just dirt pass-throughs on a farm. Residents of the farms called them "avenues." They were not real roads at all and certainly not maintained by the government. I blame the people who drive the scanning cars and think those kinds of things should be part of the map. I really don't think they should because the "roads" are not for public travel.

                                      "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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                                      • D Dominic Burford

                                        clickety[^] The rarest commodity of them all.......common sense

                                        "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter

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                                        Dr Walt Fair PE
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                                        I think you'll find that common sense isn't very common among humans and it's the use of the faulty common sense that gets the world into so much trouble.!

                                        CQ de W5ALT

                                        Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                                        • D Dominic Burford

                                          clickety[^] The rarest commodity of them all.......common sense

                                          "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter

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                                          j snooze
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                                          When asking the drivers what it was like making all those turns they said "It as like a maize..."

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