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Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
I like the idea of a common GUI libray for Windows and .NET and that is huge project on its own. But, I also like to see more useful tools for ASP.NET. It is a real pain having to code a GUI multiple times! For me the Win32 platform by itself is pretty much dead. So this may not apply. But in my world I do a lot of ASP.NET and WinForms Applications. The pain is that I have to build completely different GUIs for both. How about a libary that can make this process easier and also add benifit to an application where even an end user could adjust their presentation layer if they want to post-production? Common GUI: Common Control Library - Have a set of controls that have the exact same interfaces for both Web or WinForm. Ths code inside the presentation layer would be the same for both. Controls would give the same appearence but maybe with a setting on a control to determine if a lighter weight version of the control should be used (less graphics and control if bound by bandwidth) but still remain transparently identical to the calling code. Along with the custom controls, there should be some form of data validation that works exactly the same for both web and WinForm. Maybe even have an option to use an IE base view for WinForm apps and build embedded ASP.NET apps. That could cut down the time involved and still make both look the same. It would be so cool if a person could build a Portal application that has all the functionality of something like .NETNuke or IBuySpy portal with forums, polls, etc. all based inside of an application using heavy graphics if desired. Think of just having a grid that can work the same for Web/WinForm! I know there is a differnce due to bandwidth and client browser levels but if the issues are examined carefully, there may be common ground that would allow them to act the same on both without much sacrifice on either. Layout Manager - Builds the WinForm window or web page based on XML configuration data either embedded or in a file. This file would contain all the settings for any of the controls on the window including position, skins, defaults, etc. An editor for this would have to be put together which could also be used post production on an application to change the appearance without changing any code (somewhat like a DialogResource started out to be). This XML file should allow allow for "includes" or something of that nature to provide decent visual inheritance. And while there, might touch on a custom data binding so that a person d
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Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
I am in depending on the project, time involded and if it is .NET ;) Rocky Moore <><
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Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
Basically a source control system analyzing code to eliminate duplicates. Thus an improvement to algorhytm X will be reflected in all projects using the pattern of algorhytm X.
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Agent Bobs YES!!! damn clippy! -Steven "the yellow dart" Hicks
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(Steven Hicks)n+1 wrote: Agent Bobs YES!!! damn clippy! There was a rumoour that the minion had developed an engine for creating :bob: acf and acs MSAgent Character animations. Also that he had already hooked :bob: up to an AI backend back in January. Obviously it wan't a big success or it would be better known I guess. Regardz Colin J Davies
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**The minion's version of "Catch :bob: "It's a real shame that people as stupid as you can work out how to use a computer. said by Christian Graus in the Soapbox
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Basically a source control system analyzing code to eliminate duplicates. Thus an improvement to algorhytm X will be reflected in all projects using the pattern of algorhytm X.
leppie wrote: Thus an improvement to algorhytm X will be reflected in all projects using the pattern of algorhytm X. Isn't that already a feature in Source Control Programs? I use shared files in Source Safe, and get exactly that... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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cheers Nev' I ve seen spambayes b4 what it lacks atm is a good windows type app which doesnt plug into anything or act as a proxy :)and if theres one thing we're good at here at CP its windows apps :) Cheers Bryce --- Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitor
bryce wrote: what it lacks atm is a good windows type app which doesnt plug into anything or act as a proxy Call me stupid, but is there another way to make one work ? I can't seem to think outside of the box on this. :-( Regardz Colin J Davies
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Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
Program it, set it up, and sell products that we all would be interested in. And paying due royalties to Chris, of course. jhaga CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!
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leppie wrote: Thus an improvement to algorhytm X will be reflected in all projects using the pattern of algorhytm X. Isn't that already a feature in Source Control Programs? I use shared files in Source Safe, and get exactly that... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
OK , you learn something everyday :) But how intellegent is this? Or does a paper clip "notify" you?
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jhaga wrote: If we split up, nowbody will then be interested in what we do I disagree. I think having focused teams will be better. If we all work on a single project it makes things more difficult to manage. Also, are you going to work on a project you really have no passion for if you not being paid to do it? Splitting us up will actually help because you will work on the project that you really like. We all use the same technologies, but as a whole, we have a very broad range of what we apply those too. Yet somehow we have all come here to share our ideas. So with different ideas I don't see us losing interest.
I just worry that we will end up with projects were only 1 or 2 people are really doing something. If we have 40 people on one project then maybe 20 does something and 10 works intensively.(Taking in count that most of us have a work or study) With more people there will always be something happening, and we can daily follow the progress in the lounge. Anybody who has ever been in a SourceForge project, knows that it is not fun when nothing happens in months. jhaga CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!
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Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
I want to join too. :D
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Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
If it is .NET related I can help :) James "I despise the city and much prefer being where a traffic jam means a line-up at McDonald's" Me when telling a friend why I wouldn't want to live with him
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Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
I would like to see some development in the WTL area. It would be nice to see some of the controls like Chris Maunder's Grid control ported to WTL. WTL is a powerful library but there is a lot you give up when choosing to move to WTL. Also I would like to see some one develop a doc / view framework for WTL. John
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I have a license for VSS but I still use CVS because of several reasons. CVS is way more widely used. CVS can be used in a remote environment. CVS is free. John
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Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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Cape Town, South AfricaChris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
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Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
A code snippet library sharing app and service, thing. Naturally with a Visual Studio add-in. There are a lot of them out there but after having spent a week downloading and testing most of them the common problem is they are nice but hardcore programmers will hate them. You know, the command line type of guy. Most of them are a pain to setup and have a bunch of features that hardcore okes will never use. It needs to be something really slick, something focused and direct that works like a hardcore chap expects it to.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
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Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
A project management system. Phase tracking, bugs, document storage, client feedback area etc. Not a source control system, but a system for the management of a project that both managers/clients and the developers are happy with. We all bitch about management of projects, so lets do something about it for once.
Paul Watson
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Cape Town, South AfricaChris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
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Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
Also for the project in general, especially the first time out, I would like to say; Think small, think focused, think useful. An operating system, a game? Come on guys, we know how that will go, it won't. We need something that will do one or two things very, very well. Something that can start small, a foundation layer, be released, see results and then can be extended as needed. It must be attainable. Management of this is going to be a nightmare. People get bored, go on holiday, disagree, fail to deliver or just disapear. Splinter groups will form. So if we do something small and focused the first time it sets a good precedent for later, larger projects. Lets rather get our internals working before we try and fix the world
Paul Watson
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Cape Town, South AfricaChris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
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OK , you learn something everyday :) But how intellegent is this? Or does a paper clip "notify" you?
It's not intelligent at all, but it works perfectly when sharing files between projects :) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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It's not intelligent at all, but it works perfectly when sharing files between projects :) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
I was really hoping for the paperclip though! "It looks like you are attempting to write some code that failed a few weeks ago. Click yes to replace with working code or No to continue making the same mistake again." :)
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John Fisher wrote: A client program that monitors all new/updated posts, articles, etc. then lets you browse them at your leasure (without depending upon the cookie that gets confused as to whether you actually read something or not). Well, there's the new RSS feed plus some existing (OK, using cookies I guess), message monitors. John Fisher wrote: This same program would also have a CodeProject-specific chat client built-in. On the humorous side, I already spend too much time reading the messages and replying to them. I'd NEVER get anything done with a live chat system. Plus I guess a lot of people already use existing chat technologies. John Fisher wrote: It could also use a sophisticated article submission handler to ensure good formatting I typically write everything in FrontPage and do the final touch up in the editor that CP already has, which is really cool. That way, I don't mind if the browser crashes. Hope you don't mind the feedback--it would be interesting to further develop these ideas so we're not duplicating existing work. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"Thanks for the comments. I was basically throwing out ideas to spur thought, with the goal of a single app (or very closely related group of apps) that would be CP specific. Right now, we can do most of these things, but they're disjointed and not all of them are as powerful as they could be with an locally hosted application (client). If anyone has other ideas for adding to this "suite" concept, just think along the lines of what everyone likes to already do at CP, but make it easier. John