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  • D dlongwood

    Ok. So do this: Open Notepad Type "s42itd.dll" (without the quotes) Save and close Now, open the saved text file... I've done this on two different systems and all I get are 5 little empty boxes. Like it's trying to interperet the 10 characters I typed in as 5 bizarre unicode characters. What's the deal with that? Is notepad screwed up or am I???

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    J Dunlap
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     at the beginning of a file tells text editors that a file is unicode - I wonder if this is another similar sequence.

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    • D dlongwood

      Ok. So do this: Open Notepad Type "s42itd.dll" (without the quotes) Save and close Now, open the saved text file... I've done this on two different systems and all I get are 5 little empty boxes. Like it's trying to interperet the 10 characters I typed in as 5 bizarre unicode characters. What's the deal with that? Is notepad screwed up or am I???

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      Michael P Butler
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      Seems like you've either stumbled across an Easter Egg or a bug in notepad. wordpad and IE both display the file correctly. Interesting, a quick google doesn't offer any clues. Michael 'War is at best barbarism...Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, more vengeance, more desolation. War is hell.' - General William Sherman, 1879

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        Seems like you've either stumbled across an Easter Egg or a bug in notepad. wordpad and IE both display the file correctly. Interesting, a quick google doesn't offer any clues. Michael 'War is at best barbarism...Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, more vengeance, more desolation. War is hell.' - General William Sherman, 1879

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        Jesse Evans
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        I tried this and I get something a bit different: Run Notepad type s42itd.dll Save and close reopen... there's nothing there! (Not even little boxes.) type s42itd.dll again Save and Close reopen... and now it's there, just as I typed it! (NT 4 sp6a) 'til next we type... HAVE FUN!! -- Jesse

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        • D dlongwood

          Ok. So do this: Open Notepad Type "s42itd.dll" (without the quotes) Save and close Now, open the saved text file... I've done this on two different systems and all I get are 5 little empty boxes. Like it's trying to interperet the 10 characters I typed in as 5 bizarre unicode characters. What's the deal with that? Is notepad screwed up or am I???

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          Barry Lapthorn
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          I'm pretty sure I read it in Richter's Advanced Windows: notepad makes a guess as to whether the file is unicode or non-unicode by partially parsing the file. I guess the s42itd looks more unicode than non-unicode in byte format. Cheers, Barry

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          • B Barry Lapthorn

            I'm pretty sure I read it in Richter's Advanced Windows: notepad makes a guess as to whether the file is unicode or non-unicode by partially parsing the file. I guess the s42itd looks more unicode than non-unicode in byte format. Cheers, Barry

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            Jeremy Falcon
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            But it does this in only new files apparently because I can take the same file after the mess up, type in the info again and save it and it's fine. Crazy. Jeremy Falcon

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            • D dlongwood

              Ok. So do this: Open Notepad Type "s42itd.dll" (without the quotes) Save and close Now, open the saved text file... I've done this on two different systems and all I get are 5 little empty boxes. Like it's trying to interperet the 10 characters I typed in as 5 bizarre unicode characters. What's the deal with that? Is notepad screwed up or am I???

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              Jeremy Falcon
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              It looks like notepad defaults to Unicode in this situation...

              0B3E:0100 FF FE 73 00 34 00 32 00-69 00 74 00 64 00 2E 00 ..s.4.2.i.t.d...
              0B3E:0110 64 00 6C 00 6C 00 96 90-02 00 EB 0E 34 00 2D 0B d.l.l.......4.-.
              0B3E:0120 FF E8 9E 00 58 EB 03 E8-1D 01 58 C3 F9 C3 55 51 ....X.....X...UQ
              0B3E:0130 26 8A 4F 08 32 ED 0B C9-74 0D 8D 6F 09 E8 19 04 &.O.2...t..o....
              0B3E:0140 73 08 E8 0E 00 E2 F6 F9-EB 06 2E 89 2E A9 90 F8 s...............
              0B3E:0150 59 5D C3 26 80 7E 00 00-74 03 45 EB F6 45 C3 2E Y].&.~..t.E..E..
              0B3E:0160 80 0E A2 90 10 E8 C6 FF-72 4A 2E 80 26 A2 90 EF ........rJ..&...
              0B3E:0170 50 2E A1 A5 90 2B C6 2E-01 06 A3 90 58 2E 8B 36 P....+......X..6

              That's why it works the second time around, because you're typing in Unicode characters instead of ANSI. Jeremy Falcon

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              • M Matt Newman

                It doesn't do this for me (Win XP Pro SP1) Matt Newman

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                Steve McLenithan
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                I have XP Pro sp1 also and I get the boxes.

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                • D dlongwood

                  Ok. So do this: Open Notepad Type "s42itd.dll" (without the quotes) Save and close Now, open the saved text file... I've done this on two different systems and all I get are 5 little empty boxes. Like it's trying to interperet the 10 characters I typed in as 5 bizarre unicode characters. What's the deal with that? Is notepad screwed up or am I???

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                  Kalai Kandasamy
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                  cool, I too got those crazy boxes.... :eek: Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get! -- Homer J Simpson

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                  • D dlongwood

                    Ok. So do this: Open Notepad Type "s42itd.dll" (without the quotes) Save and close Now, open the saved text file... I've done this on two different systems and all I get are 5 little empty boxes. Like it's trying to interperet the 10 characters I typed in as 5 bizarre unicode characters. What's the deal with that? Is notepad screwed up or am I???

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                    Victor Tan
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                    This is a moment of history! What are the chances of stumbling on that discovery??? Probably less than lottery? ;-)

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                    • D dlongwood

                      Ok. So do this: Open Notepad Type "s42itd.dll" (without the quotes) Save and close Now, open the saved text file... I've done this on two different systems and all I get are 5 little empty boxes. Like it's trying to interperet the 10 characters I typed in as 5 bizarre unicode characters. What's the deal with that? Is notepad screwed up or am I???

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                      Jim Lamb
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                      This highlights the problem with ANSI encoding and reinforces the point that we should all be coding for Unicode. I'm guessing notepad is interpreting the byte sequence as a lead byte. On my system it shows up as far-eastern characters (Lucida console font which is Unicode and includes most character sets).

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                      • D dlongwood

                        Ok. So do this: Open Notepad Type "s42itd.dll" (without the quotes) Save and close Now, open the saved text file... I've done this on two different systems and all I get are 5 little empty boxes. Like it's trying to interperet the 10 characters I typed in as 5 bizarre unicode characters. What's the deal with that? Is notepad screwed up or am I???

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                        Chad Young
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                        i followed your instructions but i get chinese(?) characters instead of empty boxes. Very strange.

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                        • D dlongwood

                          Ok. So do this: Open Notepad Type "s42itd.dll" (without the quotes) Save and close Now, open the saved text file... I've done this on two different systems and all I get are 5 little empty boxes. Like it's trying to interperet the 10 characters I typed in as 5 bizarre unicode characters. What's the deal with that? Is notepad screwed up or am I???

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                          dlongwood
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                          I just don't understand where the Unicode byte pair (FF FE) comes from at the beginning of the file. The bytes for s and 4 certainly aren't similar to that... so what could possibly be confusing notepad? And how come if I type s42ext.dll (another of my company's dlls) it doesn't have that problem? Which character codes are the ones that cause notepad to barf? So strange...

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