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  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

    honey the monster, codewitch wrote:

    i like how I'm now just the codewitch to you. :laugh:

    Oh honey, you sweet monster, without you I'm in a crisis ;) Wait... What did I just say? DID YOU PUT A SPELL ON ME!? :~

    Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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    honey the codewitch
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    i hex everyone. it's my way of saying hi. i even hex my coffee to 24 bits - 0xC0FFEE to give it an extra jolt. Cursed and black as sin.

    When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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    • S Slow Eddie

      I'd like to start off by saying I love Code Project, the Daily News and the Lounge. I start every morning with it. It does seem to be primarily aimed at, and populated by, web application developers. :sigh: While I do some of that stuff, I mostly do Desktop program development. I would like to find a forum like Code Project aimed at Desktop programmers. If you know of one, please let me know. If we (desktop programmers) are a dying breed, let me know that too. I am not "jumping ship". I just want to add another ship to my fleet.

      Does a persistent cough come from drinking too much coffee?

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      Super Lloyd
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      there are lots of desktop code on CodeProject. It's just that the desktop API discussions are a bit slow for the last few.. years? At any rate.. behold (for example) WPF discussions here on CP! [Silverlight / WPF Discussion Boards](https://www.codeproject.com/Forums/1004257/Silverlight-WPF.aspx)

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      • S Slow Eddie

        I'd like to start off by saying I love Code Project, the Daily News and the Lounge. I start every morning with it. It does seem to be primarily aimed at, and populated by, web application developers. :sigh: While I do some of that stuff, I mostly do Desktop program development. I would like to find a forum like Code Project aimed at Desktop programmers. If you know of one, please let me know. If we (desktop programmers) are a dying breed, let me know that too. I am not "jumping ship". I just want to add another ship to my fleet.

        Does a persistent cough come from drinking too much coffee?

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        Ravi Bhavnani
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        I think you'd do well sticking with CP for the community and the C# Forum[^] where you can ask questions about Windows Forms.  The only other resource I recommend is StackOverflow, where I end up when I'm googling for a solution to a problem.  But for well-written full-blown articles, it's hard to beat CP. /ravi

        My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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        • S Slow Eddie

          I'd like to start off by saying I love Code Project, the Daily News and the Lounge. I start every morning with it. It does seem to be primarily aimed at, and populated by, web application developers. :sigh: While I do some of that stuff, I mostly do Desktop program development. I would like to find a forum like Code Project aimed at Desktop programmers. If you know of one, please let me know. If we (desktop programmers) are a dying breed, let me know that too. I am not "jumping ship". I just want to add another ship to my fleet.

          Does a persistent cough come from drinking too much coffee?

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          Gary Wheeler
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          Slow Eddie wrote:

          It does seem to be primarily aimed at, and populated by, web application developers.

          While true, the CP folks strive to appeal to whatever interests their audience. At this time, a lot of that's web development. Desktop development still gets a fair amount of love here, though. If they have any bias at all, it's they are pretty Microsoft-centric.

          Slow Eddie wrote:

          If we (desktop programmers) are a dying breed, let me know that too

          I don't think we're in imminent danger of disappearing entirely. It's more a case that desktop apps aren't the universal tool they once were. There are lots of cases where they are the right solution for a problem. For example, I don't really consider myself a "desktop developer", even though I write desktop apps that act as the UI for our equipment. Our applications act as the machine control panel, status indicators, and so on. I think of this as more a process control application with GUI bits than anything.

          Software Zen: delete this;

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          • R Ravi Bhavnani

            I think you'd do well sticking with CP for the community and the C# Forum[^] where you can ask questions about Windows Forms.  The only other resource I recommend is StackOverflow, where I end up when I'm googling for a solution to a problem.  But for well-written full-blown articles, it's hard to beat CP. /ravi

            My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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            Gary Wheeler
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            Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

            I recommend is StackOverflow, where I end up when I'm googling for a solution to a problem

            Sadly, that's the only time SO is useful. The couple of times I've tried to ask questions (after suitable due diligence), the response from the SO community was DOOM-esque.

            Software Zen: delete this;

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              I ATEN'T DED

              Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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              Forogar
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              We didn't ask you, Esmerelda!

              - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                We didn't ask you, Esmerelda!

                - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                OriginalGriff
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                If you want to amount to anything as a developer, Forogar Garlick, you got to learn three things. What's real, what's not real, and what's the difference.

                Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  If you want to amount to anything as a developer, Forogar Garlick, you got to learn three things. What's real, what's not real, and what's the difference.

                  Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                  Forogar
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                  My username was taken from an old D&D character I created back in 1978. The character's full name was "Forogar Longstride" (I liked "Strider" from LOTR). However, I recently decided to resurrect him for a new group I may be guest playing with (AD&D v5) and I am going to call him "Forogar Garlick" from now on! :cool: This also has the advantage that if he gets killed I can claim "Forogar Longstride" never died. ;P None of this is real, but it might be different.

                  - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                  • S Slow Eddie

                    I'd like to start off by saying I love Code Project, the Daily News and the Lounge. I start every morning with it. It does seem to be primarily aimed at, and populated by, web application developers. :sigh: While I do some of that stuff, I mostly do Desktop program development. I would like to find a forum like Code Project aimed at Desktop programmers. If you know of one, please let me know. If we (desktop programmers) are a dying breed, let me know that too. I am not "jumping ship". I just want to add another ship to my fleet.

                    Does a persistent cough come from drinking too much coffee?

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                    Nelek
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                    I don't consider me a dinosaur and last time I did something for the web was in college. Always been programming industry PLc or desktop apps.

                    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                    • G Gary Wheeler

                      Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

                      I recommend is StackOverflow, where I end up when I'm googling for a solution to a problem

                      Sadly, that's the only time SO is useful. The couple of times I've tried to ask questions (after suitable due diligence), the response from the SO community was DOOM-esque.

                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                      Ravi Bhavnani
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                      Gary Wheeler wrote:

                      Sadly, that's the only time SO is useful.

                      Agreed.  SO won't even let me upvote an answer because I don't have enough points.  Stupid.  But I find the SO Google results extremely useful.  They almost always address my (programming) woes. /ravi

                      My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                      • S Slow Eddie

                        I'd like to start off by saying I love Code Project, the Daily News and the Lounge. I start every morning with it. It does seem to be primarily aimed at, and populated by, web application developers. :sigh: While I do some of that stuff, I mostly do Desktop program development. I would like to find a forum like Code Project aimed at Desktop programmers. If you know of one, please let me know. If we (desktop programmers) are a dying breed, let me know that too. I am not "jumping ship". I just want to add another ship to my fleet.

                        Does a persistent cough come from drinking too much coffee?

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                        Stepan Hakobyan
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                        Maybe VBForums![^] ???

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                        • S Slow Eddie

                          I'd like to start off by saying I love Code Project, the Daily News and the Lounge. I start every morning with it. It does seem to be primarily aimed at, and populated by, web application developers. :sigh: While I do some of that stuff, I mostly do Desktop program development. I would like to find a forum like Code Project aimed at Desktop programmers. If you know of one, please let me know. If we (desktop programmers) are a dying breed, let me know that too. I am not "jumping ship". I just want to add another ship to my fleet.

                          Does a persistent cough come from drinking too much coffee?

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                          Member 9167057
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                          Desktop developer myself, I find web developers kinda smug every now and then. I oftentimes found interesting-looking articles about the state of development or similar generic terms, got incredibly dumbfounded by the author describing immature and/or always-moving frameworks and after a while, he mentions JavaScript/web. Because of course the author didn't bother mentioning web programming anywhere because for some arrogant reason, "development" is synonymous with "web development".

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                          • S Slow Eddie

                            I'd like to start off by saying I love Code Project, the Daily News and the Lounge. I start every morning with it. It does seem to be primarily aimed at, and populated by, web application developers. :sigh: While I do some of that stuff, I mostly do Desktop program development. I would like to find a forum like Code Project aimed at Desktop programmers. If you know of one, please let me know. If we (desktop programmers) are a dying breed, let me know that too. I am not "jumping ship". I just want to add another ship to my fleet.

                            Does a persistent cough come from drinking too much coffee?

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                            Ed Korsberg
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                            Web, Gui's, database, HA. Try being an embedded realtime firmware engineer

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                            • S Slow Eddie

                              I'd like to start off by saying I love Code Project, the Daily News and the Lounge. I start every morning with it. It does seem to be primarily aimed at, and populated by, web application developers. :sigh: While I do some of that stuff, I mostly do Desktop program development. I would like to find a forum like Code Project aimed at Desktop programmers. If you know of one, please let me know. If we (desktop programmers) are a dying breed, let me know that too. I am not "jumping ship". I just want to add another ship to my fleet.

                              Does a persistent cough come from drinking too much coffee?

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                              Fabio Franco
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                              Quote:

                              I know I'm a dinosaur but....

                              But I think we all are here. Look at the prehistoric looks of CP and it just makes you feel at home.

                              Slow Eddie wrote:

                              It does seem to be primarily aimed at, and populated by, web application developers. :sigh:

                              I think the lounge itself is very general purpose, if you think about it, it's driven by us. And a lot of us are MS Stack and a lot of us moved from desktop to web. The daily news I do agree, but given that there is hardly anything "new" about Desktop development, I believe it makes sense. Having that said, there is plenty of content on desktop development. I wrote a few articles many years ago here and they are about desktop development. But, if you are looking for simple and active forums for questions and answers focused on desktop development you can see MSDN: [Msdn forums - Windows Forms](https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/home?category=windowsforms) This one in particular is for Windows Forms but you can find others like MFC, WPF, UWP as well.

                              To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson ---- Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia

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                                Web, Gui's, database, HA. Try being an embedded realtime firmware engineer

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                                Slow Eddie
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                                I feel your pain....

                                Oy!

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                                • S Slow Eddie

                                  I'd like to start off by saying I love Code Project, the Daily News and the Lounge. I start every morning with it. It does seem to be primarily aimed at, and populated by, web application developers. :sigh: While I do some of that stuff, I mostly do Desktop program development. I would like to find a forum like Code Project aimed at Desktop programmers. If you know of one, please let me know. If we (desktop programmers) are a dying breed, let me know that too. I am not "jumping ship". I just want to add another ship to my fleet.

                                  Does a persistent cough come from drinking too much coffee?

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                                  kdmote
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                                  Slow Eddie wrote:

                                  It does seem to be primarily aimed at, and populated by, web application developers.

                                  Actually, if you look at the results of this recent survey, it would appear that web devs are actually outnumbered here by "Business/Office" developers. (Although, I suppose, that does not necessarily imply Desktop applications.) That's certainly the boat I'm floating these days, anyways.

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                                  • S Slow Eddie

                                    I'd like to start off by saying I love Code Project, the Daily News and the Lounge. I start every morning with it. It does seem to be primarily aimed at, and populated by, web application developers. :sigh: While I do some of that stuff, I mostly do Desktop program development. I would like to find a forum like Code Project aimed at Desktop programmers. If you know of one, please let me know. If we (desktop programmers) are a dying breed, let me know that too. I am not "jumping ship". I just want to add another ship to my fleet.

                                    Does a persistent cough come from drinking too much coffee?

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                                    MSBassSinger
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                                    Fortunately, web development is moving away from stateless HTML/CSS/JavaScript architecture to webassembly. For MS-oriented developers, that means C# and Blazor, no JavaScript needed (it can be used, but that only makes sense in very narrow edge cases). I have noticed with web developers I worked with (i.e. anecdotal) when moving to Xamarin and Blazor, that it was hard for them (I don't know if that is a global issue) to move from the stateless mindset of HTML/CSS/JavaScript to the stateful mindset desktop developers innately understand. That and really understanding things like OOA/OOP and dependency injection. The web programmers I have worked with are mostly bright, sharp people who should have no problem making the shift intellectually, but it is hard to give up the old, comfortable ways. All that to say that in time, web developers may start to look and sound more like desktop developers.

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                                      If you want to amount to anything as a developer, Forogar Garlick, you got to learn three things. What's real, what's not real, and what's the difference.

                                      Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                      Kirk 10389821
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                                      Ah, a Fortran Reference, Clearly. LOL

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                                      • S Slow Eddie

                                        I'd like to start off by saying I love Code Project, the Daily News and the Lounge. I start every morning with it. It does seem to be primarily aimed at, and populated by, web application developers. :sigh: While I do some of that stuff, I mostly do Desktop program development. I would like to find a forum like Code Project aimed at Desktop programmers. If you know of one, please let me know. If we (desktop programmers) are a dying breed, let me know that too. I am not "jumping ship". I just want to add another ship to my fleet.

                                        Does a persistent cough come from drinking too much coffee?

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                                        TNCaver
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                                        I do both, but I prefer web to installed apps because (a) updates do not require every user to reinstall/upgrade the app, and (b) with AJAX and DOM manipulation, web apps can behave like standalone apps 95% of the time.

                                        If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                                        • S Slow Eddie

                                          I'd like to start off by saying I love Code Project, the Daily News and the Lounge. I start every morning with it. It does seem to be primarily aimed at, and populated by, web application developers. :sigh: While I do some of that stuff, I mostly do Desktop program development. I would like to find a forum like Code Project aimed at Desktop programmers. If you know of one, please let me know. If we (desktop programmers) are a dying breed, let me know that too. I am not "jumping ship". I just want to add another ship to my fleet.

                                          Does a persistent cough come from drinking too much coffee?

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                                          Matt McGuire
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                                          I feel the same way, but recently I've had to stray to the dark side for work. I started my career building print drivers in DOS for custom applications. When Windows came along, I was stoked and (for the most part) didn't look back. But with every revision of platforms, I'm finding myself spending more and more time looking up how to do things, because the ecosystems keep getting bigger and bigger with more and more options to sort through. back in the day all you needed was a couple of good books and you were off to the races, now it feels like I need 50 browser windows open at any given time to find what I need. It's not too bad, but in my day-to-day were I work, I'll need to switch from embedded, to desktop, to web to mobile apps, that's way too much to keep in your head at any given time, or even the language switching: Like, how to define a predefined array again in this language? it's stupid stuff slowing me down, because of all the minor differences. I do miss the days of just knowing the language and platform inside and out, getting the best performance, and quick turnaround.

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