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    honey the codewitch
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    i have written code since i was very young. I wound up at microsoft at 18, and back then i thought it was amazing that i would get paid what i thought was loads of money for doing what i would have basically done anyway. Still, eventually, I found out that if you do what you love for long enough, you'll no longer love what you do. I finally decided I liked being a software developer more than I liked working in software. Not sure how many people left the fold feeling how I did, but there it is. I still love the craft, just not the job.

    When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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      i have written code since i was very young. I wound up at microsoft at 18, and back then i thought it was amazing that i would get paid what i thought was loads of money for doing what i would have basically done anyway. Still, eventually, I found out that if you do what you love for long enough, you'll no longer love what you do. I finally decided I liked being a software developer more than I liked working in software. Not sure how many people left the fold feeling how I did, but there it is. I still love the craft, just not the job.

      When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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      honey the monster, codewitch wrote:

      if you do what you love for long enough, you'll no longer love what you do.

      That's why my wife ordered me to give up my job as a gynecologist.

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        honey the monster, codewitch wrote:

        if you do what you love for long enough, you'll no longer love what you do.

        That's why my wife ordered me to give up my job as a gynecologist.

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        honey the codewitch
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        maybe it's because I'm gay but i don't understand the appeal of looking at lady's parts all day, particularly when they're not well to begin with.

        When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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          maybe it's because I'm gay but i don't understand the appeal of looking at lady's parts all day, particularly when they're not well to begin with.

          When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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          Lost User
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          :thumbsup:

          It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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          • H honey the codewitch

            maybe it's because I'm gay but i don't understand the appeal of looking at lady's parts all day, particularly when they're not well to begin with.

            When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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            honey the monster, codewitch wrote:

            i don't understand the appeal of looking at lady's parts all day

            That's so gay :)

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            • H honey the codewitch

              maybe it's because I'm gay but i don't understand the appeal of looking at lady's parts all day, particularly when they're not well to begin with.

              When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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              Jorgen Andersson
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              Or maybe it's because you're being realistic about it.

              Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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              • H honey the codewitch

                i have written code since i was very young. I wound up at microsoft at 18, and back then i thought it was amazing that i would get paid what i thought was loads of money for doing what i would have basically done anyway. Still, eventually, I found out that if you do what you love for long enough, you'll no longer love what you do. I finally decided I liked being a software developer more than I liked working in software. Not sure how many people left the fold feeling how I did, but there it is. I still love the craft, just not the job.

                When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                Lost User
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                real problem is if you do something all day as a job, it's often the last thing you want to do when you get home. same concept as many auto mechanics that drive the crappiest cars, known house builders that live in houses way beyond renovatible, chefs that wouldn't boil an egg at home.... but not always the case, there are some whose hobby is/seems 'close' to their job, another mechanic I knew was big time into drag racing (his daily drive was a heap of crap but he had a shed full of real nice racers), builders that purposely buy run down properties to do up and flip... ... but asking them about it find out the real plan is nearly always to make enough on the hobby to ditch the job. likewise contracting is another way out: - if the job sounds like crap don't take it - no need to re-train (aka hit the web and self-train) for something you have zero interest in). - contract says do X, so when signed X is all you have to do. no much less worries the "boss" will come down and shift you [temporary or even worse permanently] from X [something you don't mind] onto some other crap Y which you really have zero interest in doing (and if they insist on Y with contract you have much stronger option to tell them to get stuffed and negotiate a settlement rather then quit with empty pockets.)

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                • H honey the codewitch

                  maybe it's because I'm gay but i don't understand the appeal of looking at lady's parts all day, particularly when they're not well to begin with.

                  When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                  W Balboos GHB
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                  It's not a thing to understand, to wit: When I was a very young lad, I could not understand what was attractive about a woman's ass. After the onset of puberty, I still didn't know . . . . but the endorphins flowed nonetheless. Evolution has built this stuff in for the purpose of breeding. Forget about what's fashionable. A male would look for 'substantial' breasts as it implies food for the newborns; hips, etc., because it implies a higher probability of successful birth for both mother and child. Legs - one of the signals, as they reform from 'little girl' to 'woman' about being of breeding age. Although manifested consciously, it is really much deeper. Part of our animal nature that can and should be embraced. Not knowing quite what's attractive in males, I would hypothesize that an important factor would be perceived strength to supply adequate food while the woman is tending the newborns; possibly protection. Part of the beauty in all of this is that the actual manifestation of these characteristics and what one finds attractive varies throughout our species - survival at its best. All of these enhanced by the delightful blessing of having a companion and partner.

                  Ravings en masse^

                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                  • H honey the codewitch

                    i have written code since i was very young. I wound up at microsoft at 18, and back then i thought it was amazing that i would get paid what i thought was loads of money for doing what i would have basically done anyway. Still, eventually, I found out that if you do what you love for long enough, you'll no longer love what you do. I finally decided I liked being a software developer more than I liked working in software. Not sure how many people left the fold feeling how I did, but there it is. I still love the craft, just not the job.

                    When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                    BillWoodruff
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                    honey the monster, codewitch wrote:

                    I still love the craft, just not the job.

                    So, what's the problem :)

                    «Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot

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                      It's not a thing to understand, to wit: When I was a very young lad, I could not understand what was attractive about a woman's ass. After the onset of puberty, I still didn't know . . . . but the endorphins flowed nonetheless. Evolution has built this stuff in for the purpose of breeding. Forget about what's fashionable. A male would look for 'substantial' breasts as it implies food for the newborns; hips, etc., because it implies a higher probability of successful birth for both mother and child. Legs - one of the signals, as they reform from 'little girl' to 'woman' about being of breeding age. Although manifested consciously, it is really much deeper. Part of our animal nature that can and should be embraced. Not knowing quite what's attractive in males, I would hypothesize that an important factor would be perceived strength to supply adequate food while the woman is tending the newborns; possibly protection. Part of the beauty in all of this is that the actual manifestation of these characteristics and what one finds attractive varies throughout our species - survival at its best. All of these enhanced by the delightful blessing of having a companion and partner.

                      Ravings en masse^

                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                      BillWoodruff
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                      I would respond, bur I think you already used all the possible cliches :wtf:

                      «Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot

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                        I would respond, bur I think you already used all the possible cliches :wtf:

                        «Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot

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                        W Balboos GHB
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                        In case I gave a bad impression, I was trying to put forth that it's not really 'free choice'. Perverted, perhaps, by modern (and ever changing) "morals", "beauty", and the ever-famous "look what I can see!".   Our breeding instincts have been maligned, and as a consequence, targets of perversion.   Consider that only humans feel the need to hide while mating, creating the later 'perversion' of exhibitionism. What should be a universal source of joy. The problem is not the instincts, but us.

                        Ravings en masse^

                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                          In case I gave a bad impression, I was trying to put forth that it's not really 'free choice'. Perverted, perhaps, by modern (and ever changing) "morals", "beauty", and the ever-famous "look what I can see!".   Our breeding instincts have been maligned, and as a consequence, targets of perversion.   Consider that only humans feel the need to hide while mating, creating the later 'perversion' of exhibitionism. What should be a universal source of joy. The problem is not the instincts, but us.

                          Ravings en masse^

                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                          BillWoodruff
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                          W∴ Balboos wrote:

                          In case I gave a bad impression,

                          Not to worry, you have never made an impression on me.

                          «Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot

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                            It's not a thing to understand, to wit: When I was a very young lad, I could not understand what was attractive about a woman's ass. After the onset of puberty, I still didn't know . . . . but the endorphins flowed nonetheless. Evolution has built this stuff in for the purpose of breeding. Forget about what's fashionable. A male would look for 'substantial' breasts as it implies food for the newborns; hips, etc., because it implies a higher probability of successful birth for both mother and child. Legs - one of the signals, as they reform from 'little girl' to 'woman' about being of breeding age. Although manifested consciously, it is really much deeper. Part of our animal nature that can and should be embraced. Not knowing quite what's attractive in males, I would hypothesize that an important factor would be perceived strength to supply adequate food while the woman is tending the newborns; possibly protection. Part of the beauty in all of this is that the actual manifestation of these characteristics and what one finds attractive varies throughout our species - survival at its best. All of these enhanced by the delightful blessing of having a companion and partner.

                            Ravings en masse^

                            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                            CodeWraith
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                            W∴ Balboos wrote:

                            Evolution has built this stuff in for the purpose of breeding. Forget about what's fashionable. A male would look for 'substantial' breasts as it implies food for the newborns

                            Not me. I prefer women with the ability to walk upright, as it implies at least some intelligence. :-)

                            W∴ Balboos wrote:

                            Not knowing quite what's attractive in males, I would hypothesize...

                            That's simple. It's the thickness of your wallet and your social status. Appearance and even your body odor are secondary two these two perfumes. Lose them and you are instantly as attractive as a monkey, appearance again totally irrelevant.

                            I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                              W∴ Balboos wrote:

                              Evolution has built this stuff in for the purpose of breeding. Forget about what's fashionable. A male would look for 'substantial' breasts as it implies food for the newborns

                              Not me. I prefer women with the ability to walk upright, as it implies at least some intelligence. :-)

                              W∴ Balboos wrote:

                              Not knowing quite what's attractive in males, I would hypothesize...

                              That's simple. It's the thickness of your wallet and your social status. Appearance and even your body odor are secondary two these two perfumes. Lose them and you are instantly as attractive as a monkey, appearance again totally irrelevant.

                              I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                              W Balboos GHB
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                              Really - you begged for this reply!

                              CodeWraith wrote:

                              Not me. I prefer women with the ability to walk upright,

                              Implying you'll take the others as availability dictates. Also, implies, having a preference, that you've tried both variants.* * Are you absolutely sure both variants were female homo sapiens? Do neighborhood pets give you a wide berth, lately?

                              Ravings en masse^

                              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                Really - you begged for this reply!

                                CodeWraith wrote:

                                Not me. I prefer women with the ability to walk upright,

                                Implying you'll take the others as availability dictates. Also, implies, having a preference, that you've tried both variants.* * Are you absolutely sure both variants were female homo sapiens? Do neighborhood pets give you a wide berth, lately?

                                Ravings en masse^

                                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                CodeWraith
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                                W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                Are you absolutely sure both variants were female homo sapiens? Do neighborhood pets give you a wide berth, lately?

                                I'm not from Wales. :-)

                                W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                Implying you'll take the others as availability dictates.

                                Only if you assume that this is the only criterium, which it is not, and the empty set is not a valid solution.

                                I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                                  This is so straight! :) Married to a lovely woman. Have two beautiful daughters. Works as a SD.

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                                  W Balboos GHB
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                                  The cruelty of denying someone a life-partner; condemning them to loneliness; is unthinkable. That being said, I am disregarding social pressures and politics. We, like all other creatures that require male+female to reproduce, have evolved the overwhelming need to reproduce effectively. this as an imperative (viz-a-viz, extinction). Thus, it makes sense in evolutionary terms to be attracted to characteristics that optimize breeding success. Whether one casts this as 'so straight', 'mainstream', or whatever is irrelevant:   nature doesn't really give a damn. If I recall correctly, the part of the brain wherein lies one's libido is only less carefully protected, by location, then that part which tell your lungs to breathe and heart to beat. Accept your animal self and be liberated from sociopolitical tyranny. Howl at the full moon and be free. Here's further grist for your mill:   attraction for an 'exotic' other is quite common. Genetic advantages to this are obvious (dilute those nasty recessive genes!).

                                  Ravings en masse^

                                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                    W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                    Evolution has built this stuff in for the purpose of breeding. Forget about what's fashionable. A male would look for 'substantial' breasts as it implies food for the newborns

                                    Not me. I prefer women with the ability to walk upright, as it implies at least some intelligence. :-)

                                    W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                    Not knowing quite what's attractive in males, I would hypothesize...

                                    That's simple. It's the thickness of your wallet and your social status. Appearance and even your body odor are secondary two these two perfumes. Lose them and you are instantly as attractive as a monkey, appearance again totally irrelevant.

                                    I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                                    honey the codewitch
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                                    Certainly a man with his proverbial feces together is attractive, but is attractive enough to cancel BO? Not to me. It's just what I find attractive in a man generally starts behind the eyes. But that doesn't mean I like a man to stink. In fact scent and touch are probably as important to me as visual cues are to the typical man. A byproduct of my brand of gayness i think. I have physical preferences sure. I like hairy guys, and guys that are taller than me. But those things are secondary. I think most straight men are really visual when it comes to what attracts them - maybe even primarily, although scent can elicit powerful responses in any animal, even us, generally.

                                    When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                                      It's not a thing to understand, to wit: When I was a very young lad, I could not understand what was attractive about a woman's ass. After the onset of puberty, I still didn't know . . . . but the endorphins flowed nonetheless. Evolution has built this stuff in for the purpose of breeding. Forget about what's fashionable. A male would look for 'substantial' breasts as it implies food for the newborns; hips, etc., because it implies a higher probability of successful birth for both mother and child. Legs - one of the signals, as they reform from 'little girl' to 'woman' about being of breeding age. Although manifested consciously, it is really much deeper. Part of our animal nature that can and should be embraced. Not knowing quite what's attractive in males, I would hypothesize that an important factor would be perceived strength to supply adequate food while the woman is tending the newborns; possibly protection. Part of the beauty in all of this is that the actual manifestation of these characteristics and what one finds attractive varies throughout our species - survival at its best. All of these enhanced by the delightful blessing of having a companion and partner.

                                      Ravings en masse^

                                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                      David Crow
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                                      W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                      this stuff...

                                      To what "stuff" do you refer?

                                      "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

                                      "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

                                      "You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles

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                                      • W W Balboos GHB

                                        It's not a thing to understand, to wit: When I was a very young lad, I could not understand what was attractive about a woman's ass. After the onset of puberty, I still didn't know . . . . but the endorphins flowed nonetheless. Evolution has built this stuff in for the purpose of breeding. Forget about what's fashionable. A male would look for 'substantial' breasts as it implies food for the newborns; hips, etc., because it implies a higher probability of successful birth for both mother and child. Legs - one of the signals, as they reform from 'little girl' to 'woman' about being of breeding age. Although manifested consciously, it is really much deeper. Part of our animal nature that can and should be embraced. Not knowing quite what's attractive in males, I would hypothesize that an important factor would be perceived strength to supply adequate food while the woman is tending the newborns; possibly protection. Part of the beauty in all of this is that the actual manifestation of these characteristics and what one finds attractive varies throughout our species - survival at its best. All of these enhanced by the delightful blessing of having a companion and partner.

                                        Ravings en masse^

                                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                        Hudson Dar
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                                        This is so straight! :) Married to a lovely woman. Have two beautiful daughters. Works as a SD.

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                                          W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                          this stuff...

                                          To what "stuff" do you refer?

                                          "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

                                          "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

                                          "You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles

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                                          W Balboos GHB
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                                          All the varieties of 'stuff' that attract our attention, most specifically, at a primal breeding level. Note that there are variations in this 'stuff' as to extent and order of dominance - which I would suppose enhances a combination of genetic variations and "someone for everyone".

                                          Ravings en masse^

                                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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