SARS in the US
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Don't you people understand yet? The US is not responsible for anything and never does anything wrong. It's always somebody else's fault. The US finger of blame only points outward. :)
Ed Gadziemski wrote: Don't you people understand yet? The US is not responsible for anything and never does anything wrong. It's always somebody else's fault. The US finger of blame only points outward. Errrr... What does this self depricating rant have to do with a lack of US SARS case reporting by Canadian media?? Mike Mullikin :beer:
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We were just talking about SARS and how we don't hear anything about cases in the US, but lots about the 19 suspect and 12 probable in Toronto. I just found this. California: 49 suspect, 21 probable Washington: 27 suspect, 2 probable New York: 30 suspect, 9 probable and on it goes, with a total of 297 suspect and 66 probable cases in the US. I was just wondering if readers outside Canada hear about the US cases. Are media being selective in reporting or am I just watching the wrong channels? cheers, Chris Maunder
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VladTheImpaler wrote: but it is in their nature to hide the truth behind things, in order to always look good. Ummmm... while not arguing the general concept here, I don't understand how it applies here. SARS cases in the US are reported widely in the US by US media. I don't get the feeling we're hiding anything. If Canadian media chooses not to report US SARS cases that's their business. Mike Mullikin :beer:
We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special.
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We were just talking about SARS and how we don't hear anything about cases in the US, but lots about the 19 suspect and 12 probable in Toronto. I just found this. California: 49 suspect, 21 probable Washington: 27 suspect, 2 probable New York: 30 suspect, 9 probable and on it goes, with a total of 297 suspect and 66 probable cases in the US. I was just wondering if readers outside Canada hear about the US cases. Are media being selective in reporting or am I just watching the wrong channels? cheers, Chris Maunder
The media is always selective. The US is no different than any other country. Certain people have control over the vast majority of the resources. If they don't think it is news-worthy, then it isn't. In the case of the US, those that have the "power to decide" what is in the news have, like so many other "regular joes", suffered in the stock market. The rich now have to worry about whether they will have to make the minimum payment on their 5 vacation properties or continue to pay double payments. If word got out in the US media that SARS could even possibly be in the US people would sh*t a brink [Edit]brick[/Edit] and the market would tank. We can't have that. Repeat after me: The economy is strong. Spend more money. The economy is strong. You are at peace with the world. The economy is strong. Now don't you feel better. See your portfolio is getting better already. Well, is it time to get my unemployment check yet? --
"The money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its rule by preying upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is concentrated in a few hands and the Republic destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln
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we aren't hiding anything about SARS. i hear about the local cases when they show up, but then the people get better and there's nothing left to say about it. To vote with no response is to follow the way of the coward.
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We were just talking about SARS and how we don't hear anything about cases in the US, but lots about the 19 suspect and 12 probable in Toronto. I just found this. California: 49 suspect, 21 probable Washington: 27 suspect, 2 probable New York: 30 suspect, 9 probable and on it goes, with a total of 297 suspect and 66 probable cases in the US. I was just wondering if readers outside Canada hear about the US cases. Are media being selective in reporting or am I just watching the wrong channels? cheers, Chris Maunder
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We were just talking about SARS and how we don't hear anything about cases in the US, but lots about the 19 suspect and 12 probable in Toronto. I just found this. California: 49 suspect, 21 probable Washington: 27 suspect, 2 probable New York: 30 suspect, 9 probable and on it goes, with a total of 297 suspect and 66 probable cases in the US. I was just wondering if readers outside Canada hear about the US cases. Are media being selective in reporting or am I just watching the wrong channels? cheers, Chris Maunder
very selective in the reporting. I think not even widely reporting it in US but wouldn't know for sure Anthony www.TonysOpenSource.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
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Chris Maunder wrote: I was just wondering if readers outside Canada hear about the US cases. Are media being selective in reporting or am I just watching the wrong channels? In the UK we've heard lots about Toronto, but nothing about the US. Strange :~
So few words, and yet so precise! Megan, you're a poet of mathematical accuracy! - Jörgen Sigvardsson
Megan Forbes wrote: In the UK we've heard lots about Toronto Canada is part of the UK - they just won't admit it, ungrateful colonials. US cases are mentioned here in the media, but the lack of fatalities here keeps it off the prime time news in other markets.
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We were just talking about SARS and how we don't hear anything about cases in the US, but lots about the 19 suspect and 12 probable in Toronto. I just found this. California: 49 suspect, 21 probable Washington: 27 suspect, 2 probable New York: 30 suspect, 9 probable and on it goes, with a total of 297 suspect and 66 probable cases in the US. I was just wondering if readers outside Canada hear about the US cases. Are media being selective in reporting or am I just watching the wrong channels? cheers, Chris Maunder
I've heard about the local cases on the local news and 20/20 ran a story about a man who was quaritened with it. No lack of reporting here. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton
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We were just talking about SARS and how we don't hear anything about cases in the US, but lots about the 19 suspect and 12 probable in Toronto. I just found this. California: 49 suspect, 21 probable Washington: 27 suspect, 2 probable New York: 30 suspect, 9 probable and on it goes, with a total of 297 suspect and 66 probable cases in the US. I was just wondering if readers outside Canada hear about the US cases. Are media being selective in reporting or am I just watching the wrong channels? cheers, Chris Maunder
That is very strange. You are the first to report any SARS case in the US that I have heard. Weren't we screaming blue murder the other week because China was not reporting the truth on it's SARS cases? Sure, that was on a grander scale but the US is not even listed when reports show the lists of SARS affected countries.
Paul Watson
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Cape Town, South AfricaChris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
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That is very strange. You are the first to report any SARS case in the US that I have heard. Weren't we screaming blue murder the other week because China was not reporting the truth on it's SARS cases? Sure, that was on a grander scale but the US is not even listed when reports show the lists of SARS affected countries.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
Paul Watson wrote: Weren't we screaming blue murder the other week because China was not reporting the truth on it's SARS cases? Sure, that was on a grander scale but the US is not even listed when reports show the lists of SARS affected countries. Oh, good lord. If you look at the URL for the site in Chris' original post you will notice that it is "cdc.gov" - thats 'gov' as in US government. The US government is publically posting all SARS statistics for the country - and there is something naferious about that? Give me a break. How is that even remotely comparable to the situation in China? I've heard those same statistics guoted both on national and local news broadcasts. Sure, Toronto gets most of the attention - but for obvious reasons I should think.
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Paul Watson wrote: Weren't we screaming blue murder the other week because China was not reporting the truth on it's SARS cases? Sure, that was on a grander scale but the US is not even listed when reports show the lists of SARS affected countries. Oh, good lord. If you look at the URL for the site in Chris' original post you will notice that it is "cdc.gov" - thats 'gov' as in US government. The US government is publically posting all SARS statistics for the country - and there is something naferious about that? Give me a break. How is that even remotely comparable to the situation in China? I've heard those same statistics guoted both on national and local news broadcasts. Sure, Toronto gets most of the attention - but for obvious reasons I should think.
Good lord you yanks are getting worse than a defensive VB developer at a C++ conference. Calm down. I have not accused you of anything. I do however think that it is slightly fishy or hypocritical that US based media agencies are not mentioning a single thing about SARS cases in the US. South Africa had a SARS scare, it turned up on quite a few foreign news networks pretty damned quickly even though it was a false case. Same with every single other country that has had a SARS scare. It is immediately picked up and bandied about as more proof that SARS is here to conquer the world. Yet no mention of the cases in the US. Look all of this is just talk, I am not having sleepless nights over nor will I start. I don't think you are bad people for it, so relax. It just is strange that nobody outside of the US has heard of these US cases yet we have heard of every single other country that has even had a whiff of SARS.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
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Ed Gadziemski wrote: Don't you people understand yet? The US is not responsible for anything and never does anything wrong. It's always somebody else's fault. The US finger of blame only points outward. Errrr... What does this self depricating rant have to do with a lack of US SARS case reporting by Canadian media?? Mike Mullikin :beer:
We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special.
Stephen HawkingHe was taking the piss.
David Wulff
"Without hopes and dreams we're directionless" - Anna
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He was taking the piss.
David Wulff
"Without hopes and dreams we're directionless" - Anna
He was taking the piss. Awww, David, you're going to destroy my reputation. I've been described as "crazy and dangerous" by one conservative member of CP and as unpatriotic by another. Now they're going to think I was just having fun.
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He was taking the piss.
David Wulff
"Without hopes and dreams we're directionless" - Anna
David Wulff wrote: He was taking the piss. I'm not so sure. :~ Ed has some pretty odd ideas sometimes. :suss: ;P Mike Mullikin :beer:
We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special.
Stephen Hawking -
Good lord you yanks are getting worse than a defensive VB developer at a C++ conference. Calm down. I have not accused you of anything. I do however think that it is slightly fishy or hypocritical that US based media agencies are not mentioning a single thing about SARS cases in the US. South Africa had a SARS scare, it turned up on quite a few foreign news networks pretty damned quickly even though it was a false case. Same with every single other country that has had a SARS scare. It is immediately picked up and bandied about as more proof that SARS is here to conquer the world. Yet no mention of the cases in the US. Look all of this is just talk, I am not having sleepless nights over nor will I start. I don't think you are bad people for it, so relax. It just is strange that nobody outside of the US has heard of these US cases yet we have heard of every single other country that has even had a whiff of SARS.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
Paul Watson wrote: Good lord you yanks are getting worse than a defensive VB developer at a C++ conference. Calm down. We're not the ones subscribing to the conspiracy theories... ;P ;P ;P Seriously, the news I see and read reports the US SARS cases right along with all the others. If your sources don't I suggest you question them or find new ones. Mike Mullikin :beer:
We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special.
Stephen Hawking -
Paul Watson wrote: Good lord you yanks are getting worse than a defensive VB developer at a C++ conference. Calm down. We're not the ones subscribing to the conspiracy theories... ;P ;P ;P Seriously, the news I see and read reports the US SARS cases right along with all the others. If your sources don't I suggest you question them or find new ones. Mike Mullikin :beer:
We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special.
Stephen HawkingMike Mullikin wrote: If your sources don't I suggest you question them or find new ones. The same sources that I blast for being too Americentric*? Not a bloody chance :-D * That is part of what I am saying. Normally if an American stubs their toe the rest of the world hears about it. Yet here we have US citizens coming down with SARS and all I hear about is Canadians and Japs
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
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Good lord you yanks are getting worse than a defensive VB developer at a C++ conference. Calm down. I have not accused you of anything. I do however think that it is slightly fishy or hypocritical that US based media agencies are not mentioning a single thing about SARS cases in the US. South Africa had a SARS scare, it turned up on quite a few foreign news networks pretty damned quickly even though it was a false case. Same with every single other country that has had a SARS scare. It is immediately picked up and bandied about as more proof that SARS is here to conquer the world. Yet no mention of the cases in the US. Look all of this is just talk, I am not having sleepless nights over nor will I start. I don't think you are bad people for it, so relax. It just is strange that nobody outside of the US has heard of these US cases yet we have heard of every single other country that has even had a whiff of SARS.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
Paul Watson wrote: South Africa had a SARS scare, it turned up on quite a few foreign news networks pretty damned quickly even though it was a false case. I've heard no such reports from South Africa. But, again, the local news is very prompt to report any cases occuring here in Indiana. I fail to see how there is any kind of an attempt to cover up SARS related info from the US. Paul Watson wrote: . I do however think that it is slightly fishy or hypocritical that US based media agencies are not mentioning a single thing about SARS cases in the US. But there simply are no large concentrations of SARS cases anywhere in the US comparable to, for example, Toronto, or Hong Kong. Do you want state by state updates every day? If New York or Chicago or LA were being hit as hard, there would be plenty of coverage of it. No offense, but I don't think I the one who needs to chill out.
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That is very strange. You are the first to report any SARS case in the US that I have heard. Weren't we screaming blue murder the other week because China was not reporting the truth on it's SARS cases? Sure, that was on a grander scale but the US is not even listed when reports show the lists of SARS affected countries.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
I think you have to place the American media in perspective. They thrive like most bacteria on a rich growth media. So far there have been no deaths in the US from SARS, which is the reason that most of the coverage has been of Toronto and China's problems (along with several other Asian nations). At this point the thing that the US media is concentrating on is the Laci Peterson case. The American (and probably most other media outlets) tend to be able to focus on only one thing at a time, and the Peterson case is it for now. There was a considerable amount of coverage between the war and the start of the court proceedings in the Peterson case, but with no deaths and a fairly low percieved risk here in the States there isn't much coverage. If there were several (or even 1) SARS related death(s) here in the States that would change in a heartbeat. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?