Sad Greata produces more carbon by virtue signalling than by being normal
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I am not a climate-change-denier, but Thunberg has got right up my nose. In the UK she managed to fire up enough left wingers to start the brain dead 'Extinction Rebellion'. What the devil do they think they can achieve? The UK produces 0.8% of the world's carbon emissions. The government has committed to be carbon neutral by 2050 - which may or may not be either achievable, affordable or desirable, but the commitment has been made. These ER idiots must think that the atmosphere doesn't move around the globe. China, India and the USA produce over 50% of the world's carbon emissions - wouldn't they be better off addressing those countries? Maybe they should just go and demonstrate against Xi Jinping in Tiananmen square. I would pay good money to see that. I would even buy my own popcorn.
Chris C-B wrote:
I would pay good money to see that. I would even buy my own popcorn.
Carbon free I would hope.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Much like when all the illuminati fly their private jets to the climate conferences. Every one a hypocrite...
The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
Much like when all the illuminati fly their private jets to the climate conferences. Every one a hypocrite...
But Elton said he paid to offset the carbon for Prince Kermit and Princess Piggy private jet. So it must be OK.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
Much like when all the illuminati fly their private jets to the climate conferences. Every one a hypocrite...
But Elton said he paid to offset the carbon for Prince Kermit and Princess Piggy private jet. So it must be OK.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
I wonder if it ever occurred to these geniuses to hold a teleconference AND pay a carbon offset. You know... set an actual example. :rolleyes:
The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.
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I wonder if it ever occurred to these geniuses to hold a teleconference AND pay a carbon offset. You know... set an actual example. :rolleyes:
The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
I wonder if it ever occurred to these geniuses to hold a teleconference AND pay a carbon offset. You know... set an actual example. :rolleyes:
It's because of these pixie dust pie in the sky ideas you have that no one will take you seriously.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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I am not a climate-change-denier, but Thunberg has got right up my nose. In the UK she managed to fire up enough left wingers to start the brain dead 'Extinction Rebellion'. What the devil do they think they can achieve? The UK produces 0.8% of the world's carbon emissions. The government has committed to be carbon neutral by 2050 - which may or may not be either achievable, affordable or desirable, but the commitment has been made. These ER idiots must think that the atmosphere doesn't move around the globe. China, India and the USA produce over 50% of the world's carbon emissions - wouldn't they be better off addressing those countries? Maybe they should just go and demonstrate against Xi Jinping in Tiananmen square. I would pay good money to see that. I would even buy my own popcorn.
Yep, the UKs CO2 is down to 1880 levels: UK carbon emissions drop to lowest level since 19th century, study finds | Environment | The Guardian[^] Analysis: UK carbon emissions in 2017 fell to levels last seen in 1890 | Carbon Brief[^] Driving the UK's per capita carbon dioxide emissions below 1860 levels | VOX, CEPR Policy Portal[^] I think we have done more than enough, about time we called halt on this and wait for the rest to catch up. ER are nothing but a bunch of failed middle class types who, envious of their peers who didnt fail (it is run by a failed organic farmer), who work in finance, engineering, law, medicine etc, ie, in the capitalist system, want that system destroyed. You will never see a working class person make noise about climate change, they dont have an agenda. :)
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Much like when all the illuminati fly their private jets to the climate conferences. Every one a hypocrite...
The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.
As I pointed out about the Copenhagen climate conference many years ago, they had to bring in Limos from as far away as Switzerland, empty of course, to Denmark, to ferry the so important climate delegates around. Or Bali, where the airport was so small they had to fly the planes empty, off the island, and park them up on a neighbouring one, after having dropped off this years clutch of hypocritical wankers. Or the climate conference where 4WD drive off road tours in the jungle were advertised for the cunts to enjoy. And now we have our Megan and Harry royals, taking private jets to holiday round the Med every two weeks, while advertising they only want two kids because of the damage having kids does to the planet! Hahaha, wankers!
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
Much like when all the illuminati fly their private jets to the climate conferences. Every one a hypocrite...
But Elton said he paid to offset the carbon for Prince Kermit and Princess Piggy private jet. So it must be OK.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
It will take that one tree 300 years to suck up that much carbon. Yeah, it will be felled and used for building wood way before then. Carbon offsets are nothing by green washing.
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I wonder if it ever occurred to these geniuses to hold a teleconference AND pay a carbon offset. You know... set an actual example. :rolleyes:
The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.
What, and miss out on the Cancun climate conference party?
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Greta Thunberg's Atlantic trip in 'zero-carbon yacht' may generate more emissions than it saves | Daily Mail Online[^] "two of the crew have to FLY to New York to bring the boat back to Europe" Not to mention her and her dad having to fly back at the end of the conference. What a ridiculous load of shit this climate change bollocks is, and what utter liars and frauds those involved in it are.
For once, I agree with you on this one. Hypocrites. But that does not change the fact that glaciers are melting.
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I am not a climate-change-denier, but Thunberg has got right up my nose. In the UK she managed to fire up enough left wingers to start the brain dead 'Extinction Rebellion'. What the devil do they think they can achieve? The UK produces 0.8% of the world's carbon emissions. The government has committed to be carbon neutral by 2050 - which may or may not be either achievable, affordable or desirable, but the commitment has been made. These ER idiots must think that the atmosphere doesn't move around the globe. China, India and the USA produce over 50% of the world's carbon emissions - wouldn't they be better off addressing those countries? Maybe they should just go and demonstrate against Xi Jinping in Tiananmen square. I would pay good money to see that. I would even buy my own popcorn.
Chris C-B wrote:
I am not a climate-change-denier, but
That phrase has now joined the ranks of "I am not a racist but..." and "I am not an anti-semite but..." For people living in an industrialised scientific world we still seem to have the tribal politics of the bronze age, where merely questioning accepted ideas is worthy of being cast into the desert. I reckon the following might soon join the ranks of these protective spell phrases "I am not denying that Greata Thunberg is the messiah but..."
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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For once, I agree with you on this one. Hypocrites. But that does not change the fact that glaciers are melting.
Le centriste wrote:
glaciers are melting
This provides more drinking water.
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Chris C-B wrote:
I am not a climate-change-denier, but
That phrase has now joined the ranks of "I am not a racist but..." and "I am not an anti-semite but..." For people living in an industrialised scientific world we still seem to have the tribal politics of the bronze age, where merely questioning accepted ideas is worthy of being cast into the desert. I reckon the following might soon join the ranks of these protective spell phrases "I am not denying that Greata Thunberg is the messiah but..."
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
I really am NOT a climate-change-denier - just look around the planet and you can see changes happening in many locations. The climate has always changed, and it will always continue to change until the planet turns into a glowing lump of embers on the edge of a red giant. BUT - there's another but for you - there are several areas within climate change that have either not been fully researched, or the results have yet to be published. For instance, the climate warms , more of the oceans evaporate, that in itself will cause a greenhouse effect, but what about the albedo? The albedo will definitely increase, cooling the planet. Where is the research? Another point of interest = photosynthesis. When a photon hits a photosynthesizing leaf, its energy is used in a chemical process, but it does not warm the photosynthesizing cell. However, when the chemical product of that process is burnt, the energy of the photon is released as heat. Where is the research? Finally, we are told that, unless we take drastic action now, then the planet will be a disaster area by the year 2100. This is dubious. I draw your attention to the Permian extinction. The late Permian extinction is now universally considered to have been caused by the Siberian Traps volcanic eruption, which lasted an estimated half a million years. Geological studies indicate that the CO2 levels at that time were orders of magnitude higher than we are likely to experience over the next few centuries, and this was accompanied by vast amounts of sulphur dioxide in the atmosphere, which would have had a greater effect than the CO2. The most interesting feature of the Siberian Traps, is that although they ultimately destroyed 90% of all life on the planet, the fossil record shows that it took around fifty thousand years to do it - and when it did it, it wasn't CO2 that did it - it was methane. Estimates (guesstimates?) put the oceans at that time at around three to eight degrees warmer than now, and it was only when they warmed a further five degree that the explosive expansion of the Methanosarcina (a Euryarchaeot) colonies in the warmer oceans, that triggered the global warming that destroyed 90% (some say 95%) of life on earth - a process that happened after 50,000 years had elapsed. Is our climate changing? Yes, it certainly is. Is the sky falling? Only Chicken Little and his cohorts believe so. In the days of my youth, we were all warned about the forthcoming ice age, coming in about fifty years. [Edit] As an addendum to the above
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Greta Thunberg's Atlantic trip in 'zero-carbon yacht' may generate more emissions than it saves | Daily Mail Online[^] "two of the crew have to FLY to New York to bring the boat back to Europe" Not to mention her and her dad having to fly back at the end of the conference. What a ridiculous load of shit this climate change bollocks is, and what utter liars and frauds those involved in it are.
There you go again... this time attacking a child with Aspergers! [for those without a sense of humour Thunberg makes a point of telling all and sundry that she is a 16 year old 'child' with Aspergers]
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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There you go again... this time attacking a child with Aspergers! [for those without a sense of humour Thunberg makes a point of telling all and sundry that she is a 16 year old 'child' with Aspergers]
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
Yes, this is part of her marketing campaign, led by the mother, who works for the WWF. Oh yes, she is a victim alright, a toy, a pawn to be used by the agenda lead parents.
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I really am NOT a climate-change-denier - just look around the planet and you can see changes happening in many locations. The climate has always changed, and it will always continue to change until the planet turns into a glowing lump of embers on the edge of a red giant. BUT - there's another but for you - there are several areas within climate change that have either not been fully researched, or the results have yet to be published. For instance, the climate warms , more of the oceans evaporate, that in itself will cause a greenhouse effect, but what about the albedo? The albedo will definitely increase, cooling the planet. Where is the research? Another point of interest = photosynthesis. When a photon hits a photosynthesizing leaf, its energy is used in a chemical process, but it does not warm the photosynthesizing cell. However, when the chemical product of that process is burnt, the energy of the photon is released as heat. Where is the research? Finally, we are told that, unless we take drastic action now, then the planet will be a disaster area by the year 2100. This is dubious. I draw your attention to the Permian extinction. The late Permian extinction is now universally considered to have been caused by the Siberian Traps volcanic eruption, which lasted an estimated half a million years. Geological studies indicate that the CO2 levels at that time were orders of magnitude higher than we are likely to experience over the next few centuries, and this was accompanied by vast amounts of sulphur dioxide in the atmosphere, which would have had a greater effect than the CO2. The most interesting feature of the Siberian Traps, is that although they ultimately destroyed 90% of all life on the planet, the fossil record shows that it took around fifty thousand years to do it - and when it did it, it wasn't CO2 that did it - it was methane. Estimates (guesstimates?) put the oceans at that time at around three to eight degrees warmer than now, and it was only when they warmed a further five degree that the explosive expansion of the Methanosarcina (a Euryarchaeot) colonies in the warmer oceans, that triggered the global warming that destroyed 90% (some say 95%) of life on earth - a process that happened after 50,000 years had elapsed. Is our climate changing? Yes, it certainly is. Is the sky falling? Only Chicken Little and his cohorts believe so. In the days of my youth, we were all warned about the forthcoming ice age, coming in about fifty years. [Edit] As an addendum to the above
Yes, and this is where it gets very very complicated and there is little agreement, and even understanding. Just how much effect is man's CO2 having? I came across a paper recently which said the humidity above the oceans, which had been increasing, has leveled off and started decreasing since 2000. This is unexpected if you believe CO2 is driving ocean temperatures, but expected if you believe incoming visible radiation is, because it was about this time that the sun peaked in activity. If humidity is falling, then the positive feedback on CO2 is too, which means it has only a very mild effect on temperatures. However, given in the past CO2 has been as high as 5,000 ppm, and surface temperatures as high as 21 C (todays is 14 C on average) it is clear that life will survive even quite large changes, so the suggestion that life on earth is at risk, and particularly human society, is just ridiculous. Ten years to save the planet! Really, how gullible do they think we are!