Anyone want to join me in the BSOD fight club?
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I've ranted a bit before about Microsoft's pathetic excuse for an operating system. Window's only achievement is through marketing and "it's good enough." My customers do not and will not tolerate their machines crashing for inexplicable reasons... my assessment of Windows 10 on a good day is marginal, on an average day pathetic, and on a bad day - criminal. I'm being generous. For 25 years I've put up with "it must be a driver" bullchips, and as a professional by now MS should have fixed their exposure to this issue - practice safe drivers. Anyway, I rant and I want peace on earth and free healthcare for all.... Google "BSOD diagnosis" and you will get a pant load of sites that are nothing more than shills for "magic" s/w that does absolutely nothing. The next major category is anything beginning with "answers.microsoft... " I actually can hope that most of the posts are AI driven, but I'm not sure. So for those of you who get into the muck to solve or at least accurately identify Windows 10 system issues - what are your preferred sites? What sites eat raw bits and crap ammo when they are done? tomshardware can have some traction from time to time.... crap, I feel an article forming.
Charlie Gilley There is nothing "free" in life. If you believe this, you believe in theft.
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I've ranted a bit before about Microsoft's pathetic excuse for an operating system. Window's only achievement is through marketing and "it's good enough." My customers do not and will not tolerate their machines crashing for inexplicable reasons... my assessment of Windows 10 on a good day is marginal, on an average day pathetic, and on a bad day - criminal. I'm being generous. For 25 years I've put up with "it must be a driver" bullchips, and as a professional by now MS should have fixed their exposure to this issue - practice safe drivers. Anyway, I rant and I want peace on earth and free healthcare for all.... Google "BSOD diagnosis" and you will get a pant load of sites that are nothing more than shills for "magic" s/w that does absolutely nothing. The next major category is anything beginning with "answers.microsoft... " I actually can hope that most of the posts are AI driven, but I'm not sure. So for those of you who get into the muck to solve or at least accurately identify Windows 10 system issues - what are your preferred sites? What sites eat raw bits and crap ammo when they are done? tomshardware can have some traction from time to time.... crap, I feel an article forming.
Charlie Gilley There is nothing "free" in life. If you believe this, you believe in theft.
Funny you mention that, I haven't seen a BSOD in.. ho.. I can't remember... I wonder how people get them those days! :o Apart from Hardware fault, that is...
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I've ranted a bit before about Microsoft's pathetic excuse for an operating system. Window's only achievement is through marketing and "it's good enough." My customers do not and will not tolerate their machines crashing for inexplicable reasons... my assessment of Windows 10 on a good day is marginal, on an average day pathetic, and on a bad day - criminal. I'm being generous. For 25 years I've put up with "it must be a driver" bullchips, and as a professional by now MS should have fixed their exposure to this issue - practice safe drivers. Anyway, I rant and I want peace on earth and free healthcare for all.... Google "BSOD diagnosis" and you will get a pant load of sites that are nothing more than shills for "magic" s/w that does absolutely nothing. The next major category is anything beginning with "answers.microsoft... " I actually can hope that most of the posts are AI driven, but I'm not sure. So for those of you who get into the muck to solve or at least accurately identify Windows 10 system issues - what are your preferred sites? What sites eat raw bits and crap ammo when they are done? tomshardware can have some traction from time to time.... crap, I feel an article forming.
Charlie Gilley There is nothing "free" in life. If you believe this, you believe in theft.
charlieg wrote:
My customers do not and will not tolerate their machines crashing for inexplicable reasons
Kopy better codz?
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I've ranted a bit before about Microsoft's pathetic excuse for an operating system. Window's only achievement is through marketing and "it's good enough." My customers do not and will not tolerate their machines crashing for inexplicable reasons... my assessment of Windows 10 on a good day is marginal, on an average day pathetic, and on a bad day - criminal. I'm being generous. For 25 years I've put up with "it must be a driver" bullchips, and as a professional by now MS should have fixed their exposure to this issue - practice safe drivers. Anyway, I rant and I want peace on earth and free healthcare for all.... Google "BSOD diagnosis" and you will get a pant load of sites that are nothing more than shills for "magic" s/w that does absolutely nothing. The next major category is anything beginning with "answers.microsoft... " I actually can hope that most of the posts are AI driven, but I'm not sure. So for those of you who get into the muck to solve or at least accurately identify Windows 10 system issues - what are your preferred sites? What sites eat raw bits and crap ammo when they are done? tomshardware can have some traction from time to time.... crap, I feel an article forming.
Charlie Gilley There is nothing "free" in life. If you believe this, you believe in theft.
I didn't much like Win 10 when it came out: compared to Win 7 it was ugly, dull, and schizophrenic. And yes, it still is all of those things. But ... it doesn't crash on me, or anyone I support - no BSOD, no nothing. Some apps do, from time to time but that's not the OS's fault. In all, it works. And when it runs on hardware that is designed to support it (like the Surface) it runs very well indeed. considering the number of different hardware combinations it has to work with, it's a small miracle that it ever manages to boot up, much less actually run! Sorry - but in my experience, it's pretty reliable these days. Even if updates can be a PITA.
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I've ranted a bit before about Microsoft's pathetic excuse for an operating system. Window's only achievement is through marketing and "it's good enough." My customers do not and will not tolerate their machines crashing for inexplicable reasons... my assessment of Windows 10 on a good day is marginal, on an average day pathetic, and on a bad day - criminal. I'm being generous. For 25 years I've put up with "it must be a driver" bullchips, and as a professional by now MS should have fixed their exposure to this issue - practice safe drivers. Anyway, I rant and I want peace on earth and free healthcare for all.... Google "BSOD diagnosis" and you will get a pant load of sites that are nothing more than shills for "magic" s/w that does absolutely nothing. The next major category is anything beginning with "answers.microsoft... " I actually can hope that most of the posts are AI driven, but I'm not sure. So for those of you who get into the muck to solve or at least accurately identify Windows 10 system issues - what are your preferred sites? What sites eat raw bits and crap ammo when they are done? tomshardware can have some traction from time to time.... crap, I feel an article forming.
Charlie Gilley There is nothing "free" in life. If you believe this, you believe in theft.
Mine doesn't crash. I've got an app that does (and it is because of driver issues), but the OS itself works fine. It even updated from 1803 to 1903 without a hiccup, and speedily, too.
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I've ranted a bit before about Microsoft's pathetic excuse for an operating system. Window's only achievement is through marketing and "it's good enough." My customers do not and will not tolerate their machines crashing for inexplicable reasons... my assessment of Windows 10 on a good day is marginal, on an average day pathetic, and on a bad day - criminal. I'm being generous. For 25 years I've put up with "it must be a driver" bullchips, and as a professional by now MS should have fixed their exposure to this issue - practice safe drivers. Anyway, I rant and I want peace on earth and free healthcare for all.... Google "BSOD diagnosis" and you will get a pant load of sites that are nothing more than shills for "magic" s/w that does absolutely nothing. The next major category is anything beginning with "answers.microsoft... " I actually can hope that most of the posts are AI driven, but I'm not sure. So for those of you who get into the muck to solve or at least accurately identify Windows 10 system issues - what are your preferred sites? What sites eat raw bits and crap ammo when they are done? tomshardware can have some traction from time to time.... crap, I feel an article forming.
Charlie Gilley There is nothing "free" in life. If you believe this, you believe in theft.
The only issue I faced on my latest machine was the mouse would do this weird stuttering and hang up for a second, appeared t happen randomly. I don't know how many sites and pages I looked at trying to get to the bottom of it. I even though for a while it was certain areas on the mouse pad and the optic sensor etc. etc. In the end, I removed the Logitech Unify USB dongle and paired the mouse (Logitech MX Master 2S) via bluetooth instead and the problem appears to have now gone away.
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I didn't much like Win 10 when it came out: compared to Win 7 it was ugly, dull, and schizophrenic. And yes, it still is all of those things. But ... it doesn't crash on me, or anyone I support - no BSOD, no nothing. Some apps do, from time to time but that's not the OS's fault. In all, it works. And when it runs on hardware that is designed to support it (like the Surface) it runs very well indeed. considering the number of different hardware combinations it has to work with, it's a small miracle that it ever manages to boot up, much less actually run! Sorry - but in my experience, it's pretty reliable these days. Even if updates can be a PITA.
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I have seen it twice, once on my own Laptop, once on my colleague's. Both times Windows 10 somehow did its magic and voila no more BSOD. No looking up how to fix BSOD.
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I've ranted a bit before about Microsoft's pathetic excuse for an operating system. Window's only achievement is through marketing and "it's good enough." My customers do not and will not tolerate their machines crashing for inexplicable reasons... my assessment of Windows 10 on a good day is marginal, on an average day pathetic, and on a bad day - criminal. I'm being generous. For 25 years I've put up with "it must be a driver" bullchips, and as a professional by now MS should have fixed their exposure to this issue - practice safe drivers. Anyway, I rant and I want peace on earth and free healthcare for all.... Google "BSOD diagnosis" and you will get a pant load of sites that are nothing more than shills for "magic" s/w that does absolutely nothing. The next major category is anything beginning with "answers.microsoft... " I actually can hope that most of the posts are AI driven, but I'm not sure. So for those of you who get into the muck to solve or at least accurately identify Windows 10 system issues - what are your preferred sites? What sites eat raw bits and crap ammo when they are done? tomshardware can have some traction from time to time.... crap, I feel an article forming.
Charlie Gilley There is nothing "free" in life. If you believe this, you believe in theft.
Once upon a time, support.microsoft.com was a technical support site worth it's weight in gold (it really worked, just input the error message and you got the right answer 99% of the time). Then microsoft decided that everything had to be powered by Bing... So now it's completely dysfunctional, and aimed at users instead of tech support.
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Funny you mention that, I haven't seen a BSOD in.. ho.. I can't remember... I wonder how people get them those days! :o Apart from Hardware fault, that is...
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I've ranted a bit before about Microsoft's pathetic excuse for an operating system. Window's only achievement is through marketing and "it's good enough." My customers do not and will not tolerate their machines crashing for inexplicable reasons... my assessment of Windows 10 on a good day is marginal, on an average day pathetic, and on a bad day - criminal. I'm being generous. For 25 years I've put up with "it must be a driver" bullchips, and as a professional by now MS should have fixed their exposure to this issue - practice safe drivers. Anyway, I rant and I want peace on earth and free healthcare for all.... Google "BSOD diagnosis" and you will get a pant load of sites that are nothing more than shills for "magic" s/w that does absolutely nothing. The next major category is anything beginning with "answers.microsoft... " I actually can hope that most of the posts are AI driven, but I'm not sure. So for those of you who get into the muck to solve or at least accurately identify Windows 10 system issues - what are your preferred sites? What sites eat raw bits and crap ammo when they are done? tomshardware can have some traction from time to time.... crap, I feel an article forming.
Charlie Gilley There is nothing "free" in life. If you believe this, you believe in theft.
Back in the days while I was at Intel, we used to debug BSODs to figure out what was going on. Now, I was no expert in it at all, but mate who used to sit right behind me was a full-timer on this front. Most of these BSODs were either caused by a product that we sold (and therefore we were trying to resolve the issue), or was to prove to someone (like a laptop manufacturer) that it wasn't our product that was causing the BSOD. Having said that, I've not seen a BSOD in a very very long time. On the odd occasion where I witnessed one, Windows core dumped gracefully and restarted like nothing happened.
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I've ranted a bit before about Microsoft's pathetic excuse for an operating system. Window's only achievement is through marketing and "it's good enough." My customers do not and will not tolerate their machines crashing for inexplicable reasons... my assessment of Windows 10 on a good day is marginal, on an average day pathetic, and on a bad day - criminal. I'm being generous. For 25 years I've put up with "it must be a driver" bullchips, and as a professional by now MS should have fixed their exposure to this issue - practice safe drivers. Anyway, I rant and I want peace on earth and free healthcare for all.... Google "BSOD diagnosis" and you will get a pant load of sites that are nothing more than shills for "magic" s/w that does absolutely nothing. The next major category is anything beginning with "answers.microsoft... " I actually can hope that most of the posts are AI driven, but I'm not sure. So for those of you who get into the muck to solve or at least accurately identify Windows 10 system issues - what are your preferred sites? What sites eat raw bits and crap ammo when they are done? tomshardware can have some traction from time to time.... crap, I feel an article forming.
Charlie Gilley There is nothing "free" in life. If you believe this, you believe in theft.
It is a driver, however about 30% of BSODs are due to Microsoft code failing. Microsoft did tighten up the rules post XP, with mandatory driver signing, which requires qualification, however they relaxed this for windows 10 allowing 'attestation signing' which means the faulty driver can be identified and the company named and shamed. So, you want to analyse a BSOD? You open in in Windbg, you load Microsoft public symbols with the symSrv command (look in help)? Good luck. It is almost impossible. Why? It is very rarely a simple crash once a driver has got this far in its development cycle, and very often, the driver named as the culprit isnt. Why? Because driver x can overwrite an array, and hit driver y's memory. Driver y runs once every 3 hours. When it does it crashes and is blamed. So, what can you do? USe Verifier. Turn on basic checking (pool, locking misc checks etc, ie not the low resource simulaiton ones) and then verifiy, one at a time, non microsoft drivers. What Verifier does is pad each chunk of allocated memory with a check pattern, so if a driver over writes its memory, it can be caught. It checks for accessing paged out data at elevated IRQL (such as timer expiry, or interrupt) and crashes the driver. (A page fault might not fault if the memory is still paged in. It will only get unpaged if resources get tight. Verifier will catch this bug immediately). Because it is resource heavy, you can only verify one driver at a time. Hopefully it will crash, and give you the correct culprit. You can then go slap that company round the head with the now very readable BSOD.
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I've ranted a bit before about Microsoft's pathetic excuse for an operating system. Window's only achievement is through marketing and "it's good enough." My customers do not and will not tolerate their machines crashing for inexplicable reasons... my assessment of Windows 10 on a good day is marginal, on an average day pathetic, and on a bad day - criminal. I'm being generous. For 25 years I've put up with "it must be a driver" bullchips, and as a professional by now MS should have fixed their exposure to this issue - practice safe drivers. Anyway, I rant and I want peace on earth and free healthcare for all.... Google "BSOD diagnosis" and you will get a pant load of sites that are nothing more than shills for "magic" s/w that does absolutely nothing. The next major category is anything beginning with "answers.microsoft... " I actually can hope that most of the posts are AI driven, but I'm not sure. So for those of you who get into the muck to solve or at least accurately identify Windows 10 system issues - what are your preferred sites? What sites eat raw bits and crap ammo when they are done? tomshardware can have some traction from time to time.... crap, I feel an article forming.
Charlie Gilley There is nothing "free" in life. If you believe this, you believe in theft.
Like several others have told already: I haven't seen a BSOD for ages. Then, I'm thinking back on a job switch I made a number of years ago: I left a job where the main development OS was Solaris (it is so long ago that Linux wasn't yet very widespread). I made my workstation crash all the time. Even more often, emacs locked up completely, and we usually used emacs in full screen mode, so the only alternative to rebooting was to go to a colleague and ask if he could do a remote login to my machine and kill the emacs process. My colleagues were slightly annoyed by all my crashes and hangs; I was the only one experiencing it. I gradually learned several different actions that would hang either Solaris or emacs, and showed it to the R&D gurus. They screamed up: But you can't do that! Every fool must know that that will cause a hang! ... This happened not with a single set of operation, but several different cases. I became known as the fellow who did silly things to make the machine hang - the blame was mine. People who know how to handle emacs and Solaris would never behave that way. If only I could learn the same behaviour, I would see that both emacs and Solaris are rock solid software that never causes problems. I no longer remember which "misbehaved" operations I did, only that they were old habits from a previous job, a different editor and OS where the operation were perfectly normal and valid. When I quit that Solaris/emacs job, I moved to another OS that I knew quite well, as a quite stable system. But not here! This was a timesharing machine, a supermini, with 15-20 simultaneous users. It crashed almost every day, and 15-20 people lost some of their work and had to wait until the system supervisor had restarted the machine. I soon discoverd that the supervisor was a Unix fanatic; he had done whatever he could to make this non-Unix system behave and look as if it was Unix, and he managed it according to Unix guidelines, not according to the vendor's guidelines. I stepped in as a "junior assistant", intended to be a small left hand activity, but I soon took over all operations, doing them the proper way (for that OS). Within two weeks, the machine was running smoothly. Three months later, someone was - from old habit - complaining about this terrible machine that crashed all the time, and I had to drag him over to the logs to show him: It has been continously up for three months now, not a single crash since I cleaned up the machine and maintenance procedures! At first he protest
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I've ranted a bit before about Microsoft's pathetic excuse for an operating system. Window's only achievement is through marketing and "it's good enough." My customers do not and will not tolerate their machines crashing for inexplicable reasons... my assessment of Windows 10 on a good day is marginal, on an average day pathetic, and on a bad day - criminal. I'm being generous. For 25 years I've put up with "it must be a driver" bullchips, and as a professional by now MS should have fixed their exposure to this issue - practice safe drivers. Anyway, I rant and I want peace on earth and free healthcare for all.... Google "BSOD diagnosis" and you will get a pant load of sites that are nothing more than shills for "magic" s/w that does absolutely nothing. The next major category is anything beginning with "answers.microsoft... " I actually can hope that most of the posts are AI driven, but I'm not sure. So for those of you who get into the muck to solve or at least accurately identify Windows 10 system issues - what are your preferred sites? What sites eat raw bits and crap ammo when they are done? tomshardware can have some traction from time to time.... crap, I feel an article forming.
Charlie Gilley There is nothing "free" in life. If you believe this, you believe in theft.
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I've ranted a bit before about Microsoft's pathetic excuse for an operating system. Window's only achievement is through marketing and "it's good enough." My customers do not and will not tolerate their machines crashing for inexplicable reasons... my assessment of Windows 10 on a good day is marginal, on an average day pathetic, and on a bad day - criminal. I'm being generous. For 25 years I've put up with "it must be a driver" bullchips, and as a professional by now MS should have fixed their exposure to this issue - practice safe drivers. Anyway, I rant and I want peace on earth and free healthcare for all.... Google "BSOD diagnosis" and you will get a pant load of sites that are nothing more than shills for "magic" s/w that does absolutely nothing. The next major category is anything beginning with "answers.microsoft... " I actually can hope that most of the posts are AI driven, but I'm not sure. So for those of you who get into the muck to solve or at least accurately identify Windows 10 system issues - what are your preferred sites? What sites eat raw bits and crap ammo when they are done? tomshardware can have some traction from time to time.... crap, I feel an article forming.
Charlie Gilley There is nothing "free" in life. If you believe this, you believe in theft.
Are you shure you have a legal copy of Windows? :-\
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I've ranted a bit before about Microsoft's pathetic excuse for an operating system. Window's only achievement is through marketing and "it's good enough." My customers do not and will not tolerate their machines crashing for inexplicable reasons... my assessment of Windows 10 on a good day is marginal, on an average day pathetic, and on a bad day - criminal. I'm being generous. For 25 years I've put up with "it must be a driver" bullchips, and as a professional by now MS should have fixed their exposure to this issue - practice safe drivers. Anyway, I rant and I want peace on earth and free healthcare for all.... Google "BSOD diagnosis" and you will get a pant load of sites that are nothing more than shills for "magic" s/w that does absolutely nothing. The next major category is anything beginning with "answers.microsoft... " I actually can hope that most of the posts are AI driven, but I'm not sure. So for those of you who get into the muck to solve or at least accurately identify Windows 10 system issues - what are your preferred sites? What sites eat raw bits and crap ammo when they are done? tomshardware can have some traction from time to time.... crap, I feel an article forming.
Charlie Gilley There is nothing "free" in life. If you believe this, you believe in theft.
charlieg wrote:
Microsoft's pathetic excuse for an operating system.
I have been using Windows for something approaching 30 years, and have had very few problems with it. Rather than "pathetic excuse", I would say it is an excellent operating system and can largely be used without problems by any non-technical person. However, should you start to mess with it (as I have done once or twice) do not be surprised if it crashes occasionally.
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I've ranted a bit before about Microsoft's pathetic excuse for an operating system. Window's only achievement is through marketing and "it's good enough." My customers do not and will not tolerate their machines crashing for inexplicable reasons... my assessment of Windows 10 on a good day is marginal, on an average day pathetic, and on a bad day - criminal. I'm being generous. For 25 years I've put up with "it must be a driver" bullchips, and as a professional by now MS should have fixed their exposure to this issue - practice safe drivers. Anyway, I rant and I want peace on earth and free healthcare for all.... Google "BSOD diagnosis" and you will get a pant load of sites that are nothing more than shills for "magic" s/w that does absolutely nothing. The next major category is anything beginning with "answers.microsoft... " I actually can hope that most of the posts are AI driven, but I'm not sure. So for those of you who get into the muck to solve or at least accurately identify Windows 10 system issues - what are your preferred sites? What sites eat raw bits and crap ammo when they are done? tomshardware can have some traction from time to time.... crap, I feel an article forming.
Charlie Gilley There is nothing "free" in life. If you believe this, you believe in theft.
Install Debugging Tools for Windows and use WinDbg to open dump file after BSOD. Don't believe to any BSOD diagnosis site.
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Are you shure you have a legal copy of Windows? :-\
In Word you can only store 2 bytes. That is why I use Writer.
lol, yeah I'm sure. :)
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I've ranted a bit before about Microsoft's pathetic excuse for an operating system. Window's only achievement is through marketing and "it's good enough." My customers do not and will not tolerate their machines crashing for inexplicable reasons... my assessment of Windows 10 on a good day is marginal, on an average day pathetic, and on a bad day - criminal. I'm being generous. For 25 years I've put up with "it must be a driver" bullchips, and as a professional by now MS should have fixed their exposure to this issue - practice safe drivers. Anyway, I rant and I want peace on earth and free healthcare for all.... Google "BSOD diagnosis" and you will get a pant load of sites that are nothing more than shills for "magic" s/w that does absolutely nothing. The next major category is anything beginning with "answers.microsoft... " I actually can hope that most of the posts are AI driven, but I'm not sure. So for those of you who get into the muck to solve or at least accurately identify Windows 10 system issues - what are your preferred sites? What sites eat raw bits and crap ammo when they are done? tomshardware can have some traction from time to time.... crap, I feel an article forming.
Charlie Gilley There is nothing "free" in life. If you believe this, you believe in theft.
Well off to WinDbg it is. I agree with the assessment of the other sites - huge amounts of adds and "we suggest you download easydriverfix.exe". As for Microsoft's sites, they are just a shadow of their past filled with ridiculous MS responses. As for Windows 10 itself - the most stable OS for me was Windows 7, and I still believe that Windows 10 was more marketing than anything else. I cite the asinine decision to forcibly reboot computers to update them. Even running W10 Pro, I still see the same issues that people have been fighting since Windows 8. At any given time, the ntoskrnl will be sucking up 10% of my cpu. Recovering from sleep mode is a guaranteed BSOD bomb waiting to detonate. And God help you if you get happy with USB devices. These are chronic issues that have existed in Windows for years, and yet the OS is still vulnerable to the whims of 3rd parties. Even now after all these years, the most likely way to reset your machine to a stable state is to re-install Windows. Don't even get me started on its security issues. Anyway off to WinDbg....
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Like several others have told already: I haven't seen a BSOD for ages. Then, I'm thinking back on a job switch I made a number of years ago: I left a job where the main development OS was Solaris (it is so long ago that Linux wasn't yet very widespread). I made my workstation crash all the time. Even more often, emacs locked up completely, and we usually used emacs in full screen mode, so the only alternative to rebooting was to go to a colleague and ask if he could do a remote login to my machine and kill the emacs process. My colleagues were slightly annoyed by all my crashes and hangs; I was the only one experiencing it. I gradually learned several different actions that would hang either Solaris or emacs, and showed it to the R&D gurus. They screamed up: But you can't do that! Every fool must know that that will cause a hang! ... This happened not with a single set of operation, but several different cases. I became known as the fellow who did silly things to make the machine hang - the blame was mine. People who know how to handle emacs and Solaris would never behave that way. If only I could learn the same behaviour, I would see that both emacs and Solaris are rock solid software that never causes problems. I no longer remember which "misbehaved" operations I did, only that they were old habits from a previous job, a different editor and OS where the operation were perfectly normal and valid. When I quit that Solaris/emacs job, I moved to another OS that I knew quite well, as a quite stable system. But not here! This was a timesharing machine, a supermini, with 15-20 simultaneous users. It crashed almost every day, and 15-20 people lost some of their work and had to wait until the system supervisor had restarted the machine. I soon discoverd that the supervisor was a Unix fanatic; he had done whatever he could to make this non-Unix system behave and look as if it was Unix, and he managed it according to Unix guidelines, not according to the vendor's guidelines. I stepped in as a "junior assistant", intended to be a small left hand activity, but I soon took over all operations, doing them the proper way (for that OS). Within two weeks, the machine was running smoothly. Three months later, someone was - from old habit - complaining about this terrible machine that crashed all the time, and I had to drag him over to the logs to show him: It has been continously up for three months now, not a single crash since I cleaned up the machine and maintenance procedures! At first he protest
I've used VMS, Ultrix, Solaris, SunOS, HPUX, and AIX and they have never crashed on me. "Windows the windows way" - huh, expand that a bit if you would not mind. I don't do Unix to my laptop, so....
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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I've ranted a bit before about Microsoft's pathetic excuse for an operating system. Window's only achievement is through marketing and "it's good enough." My customers do not and will not tolerate their machines crashing for inexplicable reasons... my assessment of Windows 10 on a good day is marginal, on an average day pathetic, and on a bad day - criminal. I'm being generous. For 25 years I've put up with "it must be a driver" bullchips, and as a professional by now MS should have fixed their exposure to this issue - practice safe drivers. Anyway, I rant and I want peace on earth and free healthcare for all.... Google "BSOD diagnosis" and you will get a pant load of sites that are nothing more than shills for "magic" s/w that does absolutely nothing. The next major category is anything beginning with "answers.microsoft... " I actually can hope that most of the posts are AI driven, but I'm not sure. So for those of you who get into the muck to solve or at least accurately identify Windows 10 system issues - what are your preferred sites? What sites eat raw bits and crap ammo when they are done? tomshardware can have some traction from time to time.... crap, I feel an article forming.
Charlie Gilley There is nothing "free" in life. If you believe this, you believe in theft.
I've only had one BSOD on Windows 10, and it was caused by, ... wait for it ..., a bad driver! It really was! Vendor site had an updated driver and haven't had a problem since.
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Dave Kreskowiak
