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  • Z ZurdoDev

    Sander Rossel wrote:

    that aren't implemented by the current American government: Fighting global warming and, more general, pollution.

    Pollution? We have more strict rules regarding pollution than most countries so I'm not sure what you've heard.

    Sander Rossel wrote:

    Collaborate on global issues such as trade, military and environmental issues.

    Most countries complain about how much we are involved with the rest of the world and now you're suggesting we should get more involved?

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    Respecting basic human rights regardless of gender, ethnicity and sexuality.

    I can't take you serious on this one since you have admitted to being OK with killing unwanted children.

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    Having an open and respectful conversation on perceived problems regarding minorities.

    This is why left and right do matter. The left (in the US), for decades now, has been keeping racism alive because it's the only way they can get elected because they don't have any policies worthwhile. Most people in the US don't care about what race anyone is. The left (and our media is left so it's understandable why you think this is a problem in the US) keeps racism alive. But it's not a day to day issue for most Americans.

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    ZurdoDev wrote:

    Most countries complain about how much we are involved with the rest of the world and now you're suggesting we should get more involved?

    There's a difference between meddling and collaborating.

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    I can't take you serious on this one since you have admitted to being OK with killing unwanted children.

    I'm for abortion, just like billions of people. You, on the other hand, are in favor of having children suffer because they're unwanted.

    ZurdoDev wrote:

    because they don't have any policies worthwhile

    Healthcare? Gun control? Pretty worthwhile policies (unless you're a conservative American I guess).

    ZurdoDev wrote:

    But it's not a day to day issue for most Americans

    All these mass shooting of late are because of blatant racism (and guns video games). Perhaps you SHOULD make it an issue if it isn't :doh: Anyway, I really shouldn't take you serious on anything because you're all for child suffering so why not have everybody else suffer too?

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      ZurdoDev wrote:

      Most countries complain about how much we are involved with the rest of the world and now you're suggesting we should get more involved?

      There's a difference between meddling and collaborating.

      ZurdoDev wrote:

      I can't take you serious on this one since you have admitted to being OK with killing unwanted children.

      I'm for abortion, just like billions of people. You, on the other hand, are in favor of having children suffer because they're unwanted.

      ZurdoDev wrote:

      because they don't have any policies worthwhile

      Healthcare? Gun control? Pretty worthwhile policies (unless you're a conservative American I guess).

      ZurdoDev wrote:

      But it's not a day to day issue for most Americans

      All these mass shooting of late are because of blatant racism (and guns video games). Perhaps you SHOULD make it an issue if it isn't :doh: Anyway, I really shouldn't take you serious on anything because you're all for child suffering so why not have everybody else suffer too?

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      Sander Rossel wrote:

      you're all for child suffering so why not have everybody else suffer too?

      I see. I thought you were different than the others in the soapbox and could actually have an adult conversation. I guess not. See ya.

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        Sander Rossel wrote:

        you're all for child suffering so why not have everybody else suffer too?

        I see. I thought you were different than the others in the soapbox and could actually have an adult conversation. I guess not. See ya.

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        Just returning the favor :D It's not my style, but you keep twisting my words and coming back on the child killing. So here's how that feels.

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        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

          Just returning the favor :D It's not my style, but you keep twisting my words and coming back on the child killing. So here's how that feels.

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          Sander Rossel wrote:

          Just returning the favor

          How mature. :rolleyes:

          Sander Rossel wrote:

          but you keep twisting my words and coming back on the child killing.

          Not intentionally. I won't go find it but you even said that born unwanted children should be killed. I'm not sure how anyone can twist that.

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          • Z ZurdoDev

            Sander Rossel wrote:

            Just returning the favor

            How mature. :rolleyes:

            Sander Rossel wrote:

            but you keep twisting my words and coming back on the child killing.

            Not intentionally. I won't go find it but you even said that born unwanted children should be killed. I'm not sure how anyone can twist that.

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            I said that abortion should or could be possible up to a late stage, and as far as I'm concerned up to hours after the baby is born. At that point the parents should be completely sure whether they want it or not (especially when the baby is unhealthy) and the baby won't feel or know it. I also said how I saw moral issues with that and that up to about six months into pregnancy is far more acceptable and preferable. After birth, of course, I'd prefer orphanages or foster parents if possible (especially if those parents can't have children of their own). Basically, what I'm saying, is that aborting (or "killing", if you will) a baby is sometimes the more merciful option and if it prevents further suffering it should be an option. And it's certainly the better option to keep the world's population in check. That's a bit more nuanced than saying I'm a baby killer or want children dead.

            ZurdoDev wrote:

            How mature. :rolleyes:

            Well, you started it :rolleyes: But seriously, I don't care if you agree with me or if you don't, but I'm not a baby killer and calling someone that doesn't get you in their "nice" book. Even if you vehemently disagree it's sometimes better to say "let's agree to disagree" instead of calling them a child killer that's an unfit parent and human being. I just thought I'd give you a taste by saying you like to see children suffer, which of course isn't true, but even then it's not nice to hear. So how about we forget about this and simply agree to disagree?

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            • Z ZurdoDev

              Sander Rossel wrote:

              Trumps words cause actual deaths (luckily mostly in the US). I know you don't believe it,

              Of course we don't believe it. Because it's not true. :doh:

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              Exactly. Sander is lost. :sigh:

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              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                I said that abortion should or could be possible up to a late stage, and as far as I'm concerned up to hours after the baby is born. At that point the parents should be completely sure whether they want it or not (especially when the baby is unhealthy) and the baby won't feel or know it. I also said how I saw moral issues with that and that up to about six months into pregnancy is far more acceptable and preferable. After birth, of course, I'd prefer orphanages or foster parents if possible (especially if those parents can't have children of their own). Basically, what I'm saying, is that aborting (or "killing", if you will) a baby is sometimes the more merciful option and if it prevents further suffering it should be an option. And it's certainly the better option to keep the world's population in check. That's a bit more nuanced than saying I'm a baby killer or want children dead.

                ZurdoDev wrote:

                How mature. :rolleyes:

                Well, you started it :rolleyes: But seriously, I don't care if you agree with me or if you don't, but I'm not a baby killer and calling someone that doesn't get you in their "nice" book. Even if you vehemently disagree it's sometimes better to say "let's agree to disagree" instead of calling them a child killer that's an unfit parent and human being. I just thought I'd give you a taste by saying you like to see children suffer, which of course isn't true, but even then it's not nice to hear. So how about we forget about this and simply agree to disagree?

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                Sander Rossel wrote:

                calling someone that

                Did I call you that? :confused: I wrote, "to being OK with killing unwanted children." Which is what you described above even though you try to add roses and flowers around it to make it sound morally acceptable.

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                • Z ZurdoDev

                  Sander Rossel wrote:

                  calling someone that

                  Did I call you that? :confused: I wrote, "to being OK with killing unwanted children." Which is what you described above even though you try to add roses and flowers around it to make it sound morally acceptable.

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                  You literally called me unfit to be a parent and to be a human being. I could agree on the parenting, but mostly because I don't want to be a parent. If I'd ever find myself in the care of a child of whatever age, rest assured I'll do everything I can to take care for it (or at least legally dispose it where I know it'll have a great future, such as good foster parents). But I'm still pro-abortion, which is perfectly morally acceptable, at least according to billions. In fact, in many cases, it would be more morally acceptable than to keep the baby. That said, morals a completely personal and subjective. I just added the roses and flowers to make it more nuanced than your "baby killer" narrative.

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                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                    You literally called me unfit to be a parent and to be a human being. I could agree on the parenting, but mostly because I don't want to be a parent. If I'd ever find myself in the care of a child of whatever age, rest assured I'll do everything I can to take care for it (or at least legally dispose it where I know it'll have a great future, such as good foster parents). But I'm still pro-abortion, which is perfectly morally acceptable, at least according to billions. In fact, in many cases, it would be more morally acceptable than to keep the baby. That said, morals a completely personal and subjective. I just added the roses and flowers to make it more nuanced than your "baby killer" narrative.

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                    Sander Rossel wrote:

                    at least according to billions.

                    You keep throwing that out there. And then you call Trump a liar. :rolleyes:

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                    • Z ZurdoDev

                      Sander Rossel wrote:

                      at least according to billions.

                      You keep throwing that out there. And then you call Trump a liar. :rolleyes:

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                      That doesn't even make any sense :confused: Let's say, for the argument, that when abortion is legal in a country, at least half of that countries population is OK with it. It's legal in China and India, which alone accounts for almost two billion people. It's legal in most of Europe, which is another few millions, same for USA. There are about 40-50 million abortions a year, which is around 125000 abortions a day. Literally billions of people are OK with abortions. Maybe you don't grasp the concept of being a liar, but it means saying something which you know is not true. That's what Trump does time and time again, making him not only a liar, but a pathological liar (meaning he does it compulsively, which is also a mental disorder). So how does that relate to me I wonder? :confused:

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                      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                        That doesn't even make any sense :confused: Let's say, for the argument, that when abortion is legal in a country, at least half of that countries population is OK with it. It's legal in China and India, which alone accounts for almost two billion people. It's legal in most of Europe, which is another few millions, same for USA. There are about 40-50 million abortions a year, which is around 125000 abortions a day. Literally billions of people are OK with abortions. Maybe you don't grasp the concept of being a liar, but it means saying something which you know is not true. That's what Trump does time and time again, making him not only a liar, but a pathological liar (meaning he does it compulsively, which is also a mental disorder). So how does that relate to me I wonder? :confused:

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                        Sander Rossel wrote:

                        at least half of that countries population is OK with it.

                        Uh nope. Neither China nor India voted on it.

                        Sander Rossel wrote:

                        but it means saying something which you know is not true.

                        I was taking artistic liberty, as you were earlier. My point is, I've had this discussion with others several times and no one has ever been able to show where Trump lied. Not once. Which is really odd, because I bet he has lied, probably lots of times, yet Trump haters can't actually find one. Do you have any lies from Trump? Ones that fit your definition where he knows it to be not true?

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                        • Z ZurdoDev

                          Sander Rossel wrote:

                          at least half of that countries population is OK with it.

                          Uh nope. Neither China nor India voted on it.

                          Sander Rossel wrote:

                          but it means saying something which you know is not true.

                          I was taking artistic liberty, as you were earlier. My point is, I've had this discussion with others several times and no one has ever been able to show where Trump lied. Not once. Which is really odd, because I bet he has lied, probably lots of times, yet Trump haters can't actually find one. Do you have any lies from Trump? Ones that fit your definition where he knows it to be not true?

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                          Really? I know you're just going to say these are leftist lies, but Trump’s 2,000 Lies – A Documentary - YouTube[^] Anyway, I'm done with this. Whatever I say, you say the exact opposite and anything I have you just say it's not true or illogical. Neither of us are going to get anything out of this, least of all knowledge. Please never talk to me again, we're simply 100% incompatible.

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                            Really? I know you're just going to say these are leftist lies, but Trump’s 2,000 Lies – A Documentary - YouTube[^] Anyway, I'm done with this. Whatever I say, you say the exact opposite and anything I have you just say it's not true or illogical. Neither of us are going to get anything out of this, least of all knowledge. Please never talk to me again, we're simply 100% incompatible.

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                            Sander Rossel wrote:

                            I know you're just going to say these are leftist lies, but Trump’s 2,000 Lies – A Documentary - YouTube[^]

                            You prove my point. You can't even find a single lie. I watched a few minutes of the video and there were a couple of things that Trump said that leftists disagree with but they weren't lies. So, I ask again, if he lies so much why can't anyone seem to enumerate them?

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                            100% incompatible.

                            Because I have integrity. :^)

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                              Sander Rossel wrote:

                              I know you're just going to say these are leftist lies, but Trump’s 2,000 Lies – A Documentary - YouTube[^]

                              You prove my point. You can't even find a single lie. I watched a few minutes of the video and there were a couple of things that Trump said that leftists disagree with but they weren't lies. So, I ask again, if he lies so much why can't anyone seem to enumerate them?

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                              100% incompatible.

                              Because I have integrity. :^)

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                              ZurdoDev wrote:

                              Because I have integrity.

                              You misspelled "toxic" and "self righteous". If you didn't have such a high CP rating I'd definitely flag you for abuse and trolling :~

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                                ZurdoDev wrote:

                                Because I have integrity.

                                You misspelled "toxic" and "self righteous". If you didn't have such a high CP rating I'd definitely flag you for abuse and trolling :~

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                                Sander Rossel wrote:

                                I'd definitely flag you for abuse and trolling

                                Ohhh, I wish you would. Several people have in the past and when CP looked into it, they saw that the other person was the one abusing and they got kicked off. Not that I want you kicked off, but you can't find a single innapropriate message from me so please go ahead and report me. :laugh: :laugh: Hint: My inappropriate message is right next to Trump's lies. Good luck. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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