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  • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

    I guess you've never heard of cost shifting. The fact is the costs that Medicare and Medicaid refuse to pay gets passed on to those who unknowingly do pay for it: those on private insurance. I think one of the ways to bring down healthcare costs is to mandate pricing transparency and to have such prices broken down into how the prices are determined, i.e., what costs is the provider using to determine the prices.

    #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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    I have. The limited studies of it don't suggest it is a significant issue that would skew the reality of Medicare and Medicaid holding down cost much better than private insurance.

    Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” We never have had a president* so completely deserving of scorn and yet so small in the office that it almost seems a waste of time and energy to summon the requisite contempt

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    • S Slacker007

      In the United States for health care costs to be lowered means the medical field, especially doctors and specialists need to take smaller paychecks. Medical supplies again is too expensive in the United States. As of right now, this second, UHC would never work. edit: let's not even discuss pharmaceuticals/Rx in the United States. way more expensive than in Europe, etc. especially with diabetes.

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      ZurdoDev
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      Exactly! :thumbsup:

      Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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      • M Majerus

        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote:

        Nonresponsive and irrelevant.

        Responsive and relevant.

        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote:

        White nationalism is extremist.

        Indeed. And 60 million people voted for a white nationalist and still support him. There is no difference between being a white nationalist and supporting white nationalist policies.

        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote:

        just like the extreme lefties have loudest super-loud voices.

        UHC is still not extremist.

        Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” We never have had a president* so completely deserving of scorn and yet so small in the office that it almost seems a waste of time and energy to summon the requisite contempt

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        Majerus wrote:

        There is no difference between being a white nationalist and supporting white nationalist policies.

        It's this kind of nonsense that is going to win Trump re-election. You clowns are your own worst enemy! :laugh: :laugh:

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          Majerus wrote:

          There is no difference between being a white nationalist and supporting white nationalist policies.

          It's this kind of nonsense that is going to win Trump re-election. You clowns are your own worst enemy! :laugh: :laugh:

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          If The Combover Con Artist wins reelection it will be because white nationalists voted for him. No one will make any of those voters vote for him.

          Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” We never have had a president* so completely deserving of scorn and yet so small in the office that it almost seems a waste of time and energy to summon the requisite contempt

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            If The Combover Con Artist wins reelection it will be because white nationalists voted for him. No one will make any of those voters vote for him.

            Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” We never have had a president* so completely deserving of scorn and yet so small in the office that it almost seems a waste of time and energy to summon the requisite contempt

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            You, your party, your candidate(s) and your media are alienating 10's of millions of normal average people (of all races) who lean conservative by calling them racists. Surely even you can see how absolutely idiotic that is? Right?

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              You, your party, your candidate(s) and your media are alienating 10's of millions of normal average people (of all races) who lean conservative by calling them racists. Surely even you can see how absolutely idiotic that is? Right?

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              Nonsense. Anyone who votes for the white nationalist will do so because they want to not because someone called them a name.

              Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” We never have had a president* so completely deserving of scorn and yet so small in the office that it almost seems a waste of time and energy to summon the requisite contempt

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                Nonsense. Anyone who votes for the white nationalist will do so because they want to not because someone called them a name.

                Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” We never have had a president* so completely deserving of scorn and yet so small in the office that it almost seems a waste of time and energy to summon the requisite contempt

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                The thing is they know Trump is not a white nationalist yet your ilk is calling them white nationalists just because you falsely accuse him. This is the absolute dumbest campaign strategy I've ever seen come from a major political party. I'd swear the DNC was being run by 3rd graders.

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                  The thing is they know Trump is not a white nationalist yet your ilk is calling them white nationalists just because you falsely accuse him. This is the absolute dumbest campaign strategy I've ever seen come from a major political party. I'd swear the DNC was being run by 3rd graders.

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                  Il Douche is a white nationalist and that's the base he plays to.

                  Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” We never have had a president* so completely deserving of scorn and yet so small in the office that it almost seems a waste of time and energy to summon the requisite contempt

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                  • M Majerus

                    Il Douche is a white nationalist and that's the base he plays to.

                    Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” We never have had a president* so completely deserving of scorn and yet so small in the office that it almost seems a waste of time and energy to summon the requisite contempt

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                    You're insane. Good luck... :rolleyes:

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                      You're insane. Good luck... :rolleyes:

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                      Nope. I am a realist who recognizes the politics of hate pushed by Republicans.

                      Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” We never have had a president* so completely deserving of scorn and yet so small in the office that it almost seems a waste of time and energy to summon the requisite contempt

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                      • S Slacker007

                        I always considered myself a "moderate". I don't hear/read that term much these days.

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                        Actually - if you think about it - most people would consider themselves a "moderate" as compared to an "extremest". Probably related to why everyone (it seems) is so sure they are right correct. Wherever you stand, you can look to the left; you can look to the right; you will always find someone there.

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                        • M Majerus

                          Nope. I am a realist who recognizes the politics of hate pushed by Republicans.

                          Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” We never have had a president* so completely deserving of scorn and yet so small in the office that it almost seems a waste of time and energy to summon the requisite contempt

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                          Whatever dude. The hate I'm seeing is coming from the left. Y'all really should look in the mirror. Again... good luck and good bye.

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                            Whatever dude. The hate I'm seeing is coming from the left. Y'all really should look in the mirror. Again... good luck and good bye.

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                            You’re just projecting.

                            Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” We never have had a president* so completely deserving of scorn and yet so small in the office that it almost seems a waste of time and energy to summon the requisite contempt

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                            • W W Balboos GHB

                              In the US, the largest political party usually seems to be those who don't vote.

                              Ravings en masse^

                              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                              And that is their choice. So what?

                              This space for rent.

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                              • M Majerus

                                I have. The limited studies of it don't suggest it is a significant issue that would skew the reality of Medicare and Medicaid holding down cost much better than private insurance.

                                Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” We never have had a president* so completely deserving of scorn and yet so small in the office that it almost seems a waste of time and energy to summon the requisite contempt

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                                Majerus wrote:

                                Medicare and Medicaid holding down cost much better than private insurance.

                                And that's because Medicare and Medicaid shift those costs to private insurance.

                                #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                                  Whatever dude. The hate I'm seeing is coming from the left. Y'all really should look in the mirror. Again... good luck and good bye.

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                                  TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                  This is typical Madge-the-Hack m.o.

                                  #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                                  • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                                    This is typical Madge-the-Hack m.o.

                                    #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                                    Majerus
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                                    Thanks for the cup of whine.

                                    Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” We never have had a president* so completely deserving of scorn and yet so small in the office that it almost seems a waste of time and energy to summon the requisite contempt

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                                      Majerus wrote:

                                      Medicare and Medicaid holding down cost much better than private insurance.

                                      And that's because Medicare and Medicaid shift those costs to private insurance.

                                      #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                                      Majerus
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                                      I’ve seen nothing to support that claim.

                                      Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” We never have had a president* so completely deserving of scorn and yet so small in the office that it almost seems a waste of time and energy to summon the requisite contempt

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                                        Thanks for the cup of whine.

                                        Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” We never have had a president* so completely deserving of scorn and yet so small in the office that it almost seems a waste of time and energy to summon the requisite contempt

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                                        Empirical Observation.

                                        #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                                          Empirical Observation.

                                          #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                                          Majerus
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                                          :laugh: No, just you whining. Thanks for the cup of

                                          Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” We never have had a president* so completely deserving of scorn and yet so small in the office that it almost seems a waste of time and energy to summon the requisite contempt

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