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  • K Kevin Marois

    Anyone using VS2019? I saw that absurd modal Stary Window and thought "WTF:confused::confused:????" Is there any way to turn that off? I use the VS2017 Start Page all the time. is that gone now?

    If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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    You can turn it off, but you can't get the old start page back without installing an extension - eg: Start Page on startup - Visual Studio Marketplace[^] Almost every request to bring back the old non-modal page seems to be closed - for example: Start Page: Please give it back! - Developer Community[^] This one has a comment from July suggesting they're looking to make the start window non-modal: Make the Visual Studio 2019 start window non-modal - Developer Community[^]

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    Quick update - we're looking into hosting the UI of the start window within a document tab or tool window within the IDE as an option. So you can launch Visual Studio with the focused UI of the start window to get to your code initially, but if you are already within the IDE, then the same UI will show up in a non-modal way. - Pratik Nadagouda [MSFT] Jul 11 at 10:35 PM

    There hasn't been an update since then, but the ticket is still "under review".


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      You can turn it off, but you can't get the old start page back without installing an extension - eg: Start Page on startup - Visual Studio Marketplace[^] Almost every request to bring back the old non-modal page seems to be closed - for example: Start Page: Please give it back! - Developer Community[^] This one has a comment from July suggesting they're looking to make the start window non-modal: Make the Visual Studio 2019 start window non-modal - Developer Community[^]

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      Quick update - we're looking into hosting the UI of the start window within a document tab or tool window within the IDE as an option. So you can launch Visual Studio with the focused UI of the start window to get to your code initially, but if you are already within the IDE, then the same UI will show up in a non-modal way. - Pratik Nadagouda [MSFT] Jul 11 at 10:35 PM

      There hasn't been an update since then, but the ticket is still "under review".


      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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      Kevin Marois
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      Marvelous.. Every time I see some new "feature" like this, I wonder what moron at MS decided this was a good idea

      If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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      • K Kevin Marois

        Anyone using VS2019? I saw that absurd modal Stary Window and thought "WTF:confused::confused:????" Is there any way to turn that off? I use the VS2017 Start Page all the time. is that gone now?

        If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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        PIEBALDconsult
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        Turning off the Start Page has been my first stop with installs of VS since 2002.

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        • P PIEBALDconsult

          Turning off the Start Page has been my first stop with installs of VS since 2002.

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          Kevin Marois
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          I've heard people say that and I think "Why??" Everything you need when you open VS is right there in one place. Add to that, it's customizable. That makes it really valuable to me

          If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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          • K Kevin Marois

            I've heard people say that and I think "Why??" Everything you need when you open VS is right there in one place. Add to that, it's customizable. That makes it really valuable to me

            If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            Valueless waste of resources. Some people also like having a dog greet them at the door when they get home. Whatever.

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            • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

              You can turn it off, but you can't get the old start page back without installing an extension - eg: Start Page on startup - Visual Studio Marketplace[^] Almost every request to bring back the old non-modal page seems to be closed - for example: Start Page: Please give it back! - Developer Community[^] This one has a comment from July suggesting they're looking to make the start window non-modal: Make the Visual Studio 2019 start window non-modal - Developer Community[^]

              Quote:

              Quick update - we're looking into hosting the UI of the start window within a document tab or tool window within the IDE as an option. So you can launch Visual Studio with the focused UI of the start window to get to your code initially, but if you are already within the IDE, then the same UI will show up in a non-modal way. - Pratik Nadagouda [MSFT] Jul 11 at 10:35 PM

              There hasn't been an update since then, but the ticket is still "under review".


              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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              Kevin Marois
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              Thanks. That first option did it for me

              If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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              • K Kevin Marois

                Anyone using VS2019? I saw that absurd modal Stary Window and thought "WTF:confused::confused:????" Is there any way to turn that off? I use the VS2017 Start Page all the time. is that gone now?

                If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                jackbrownii
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                Am I the only one that just double clicks on the .sln I want to work with and never open a blank Visual Studio instance?

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                • K Kevin Marois

                  Marvelous.. Every time I see some new "feature" like this, I wonder what moron at MS decided this was a good idea

                  If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                  realJSOP
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                  It's the same guy that thought it was important to make VS2019 more easily themeable.

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                  • K Kevin Marois

                    Anyone using VS2019? I saw that absurd modal Stary Window and thought "WTF:confused::confused:????" Is there any way to turn that off? I use the VS2017 Start Page all the time. is that gone now?

                    If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                    I have my projects pinned to the VS icon on the taskbar, so I never see it. Unless I click with the wrong mouse button of course ... :-O Then it appears on the wrong sodding monitor and I don't see it ...

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                    • J jackbrownii

                      Am I the only one that just double clicks on the .sln I want to work with and never open a blank Visual Studio instance?

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                      Kevin Marois
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                      But you have to navigate to it first. The Start Page has it right there in front of you. I'm working on a app thatg has 5 solutions. I open 5 VS instances, then go to the start page of each, click the link, and I'm in business. No navigating all over to find what .SLN(s) I need.

                      If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                      • K Kevin Marois

                        But you have to navigate to it first. The Start Page has it right there in front of you. I'm working on a app thatg has 5 solutions. I open 5 VS instances, then go to the start page of each, click the link, and I'm in business. No navigating all over to find what .SLN(s) I need.

                        If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                        Pin 'em to the VS icon menu on the tool bar and it's even quicker and easier.

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                        • K Kevin Marois

                          I've heard people say that and I think "Why??" Everything you need when you open VS is right there in one place. Add to that, it's customizable. That makes it really valuable to me

                          If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                          Mark_Wallace
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                          Kevin Marois wrote:

                          Everything you need when you open VS is right there in one place.

                          I don't need "Everything right there in one place" when I open VS. I need VS to open twice as fast, with no fuss and kerfuffle, and just give me a menu item I can click, and then select the project I want to open. I don't want fireworks displays; I want functionality.

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                          • K Kevin Marois

                            Anyone using VS2019? I saw that absurd modal Stary Window and thought "WTF:confused::confused:????" Is there any way to turn that off? I use the VS2017 Start Page all the time. is that gone now?

                            If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                            Stepan Hakobyan
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                            Turned it off on day one.

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                            • K Kevin Marois

                              Marvelous.. Every time I see some new "feature" like this, I wonder what moron at MS decided this was a good idea

                              If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                              DJ van Wyk
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                              I suspect it may be a whole team of morons...

                              My plan is to live forever ... so far so good

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                                Valueless waste of resources. Some people also like having a dog greet them at the door when they get home. Whatever.

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                                DJ van Wyk
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                                Having my dogs greet me at the gate every day when I get home makes me really happy.

                                My plan is to live forever ... so far so good

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                                  Turned it off on day one.

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                                  How do you turn it off? :confused:

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                                  • K Kevin Marois

                                    But you have to navigate to it first. The Start Page has it right there in front of you. I'm working on a app thatg has 5 solutions. I open 5 VS instances, then go to the start page of each, click the link, and I'm in business. No navigating all over to find what .SLN(s) I need.

                                    If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                                    BryanFazekas
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                                    Kevin Marois wrote:

                                    But you have to navigate to it first. The Start Page has it right there in front of you.

                                    Pin VS to the taskbar. Once a solution has been opened it's added to the context menu, simply right-click the icon and select the solution from the list.

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                                    • K Kevin Marois

                                      Anyone using VS2019? I saw that absurd modal Stary Window and thought "WTF:confused::confused:????" Is there any way to turn that off? I use the VS2017 Start Page all the time. is that gone now?

                                      If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                                      Matt Bond
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                                      I open one instance of VS in the morning, and just switch out the solution I'm working on. I sometimes need 2 instances, but that is a once every 3 months kind of thing. Not having a list of recent projects inside VS to pick from will be a pain in my a$$. VS 2017 already makes it harder for me because I have to manually close the current solution before opening another. Prior versions I could just open a new solution and the old one auto-closed. Bond Keep all things as simple as possible, but no simpler. -said someone, somewhere

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                                      • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                        You can turn it off, but you can't get the old start page back without installing an extension - eg: Start Page on startup - Visual Studio Marketplace[^] Almost every request to bring back the old non-modal page seems to be closed - for example: Start Page: Please give it back! - Developer Community[^] This one has a comment from July suggesting they're looking to make the start window non-modal: Make the Visual Studio 2019 start window non-modal - Developer Community[^]

                                        Quote:

                                        Quick update - we're looking into hosting the UI of the start window within a document tab or tool window within the IDE as an option. So you can launch Visual Studio with the focused UI of the start window to get to your code initially, but if you are already within the IDE, then the same UI will show up in a non-modal way. - Pratik Nadagouda [MSFT] Jul 11 at 10:35 PM

                                        There hasn't been an update since then, but the ticket is still "under review".


                                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                        obermd
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                                        Richard Deeming wrote:

                                        Almost every request to bring back the old non-modal page seems to be closed - for example: Start Page: Please give it back! - Developer Community[^]

                                        You mean like all the requests to bring back color coded source printing to match the color coding on the screen. Color coded source printing disappeared in VS 2012. I still want my source code color coded on the rare occasions I actually print it out.

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                                        • J jackbrownii

                                          Am I the only one that just double clicks on the .sln I want to work with and never open a blank Visual Studio instance?

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                                          jackbrownii wrote:

                                          Am I the only one that just double clicks on the .sln I want to work with and never open a blank Visual Studio instance?

                                          Never start new projects do you?

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