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  • H honey the codewitch

    i was 8 when reagan was in office. I liked to read while eating breakfast. If not for that I may have never picked up that Applesoft BASIC manual that shipped with our craptastic Apple ][gs By the next year i was wiring stuff into the joystick port on the motherboard. 10 years later i was at microsoft.

    When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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    realJSOP
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    After my first exposure to "software" (in the 70's), I decided I could do it better. Over 40 years later, that has not changed.

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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      After my first exposure to "software" (in the 70's), I decided I could do it better. Over 40 years later, that has not changed.

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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      honey the codewitch
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      fair enough. i just wanted to take things apart. build things with the pieces. make what suits my fancy, and explore making it do things it wasn't supposed to. that has not changed. i'm a subverter and a deconstructionist when it comes to code i guess. Derrida's ghost is probably sideeying me right now.

      When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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        COSMAC :-)

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        The RCA-CDP1802 is a byte-oriented central process-ing unit (CPU) employing the COSMAC architecture and utilizing complementary-symmetry MOS technology (CMOS).

        RCA was a pioneer in early CMOS devices and sent quite a bit of it into space because of it's lower power consumption. Early on they even called CMOS COSMOS, which of course was a similar acronym.

        glennPattonWork wrote:

        Meant to ask how the Cosmic(?) Elf coming along?..

        It's my project for the winter and I want to replace lots of discrete logic with microcontrollers. AT least the tiny OS already works.

        I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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        Well when I heard of it I was thinking a microcontroller could get rid of the discrete logic (and the joys of static/dynamic hazards due to propagation delay) but wasn't too sure if you wanted to go that route...

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        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

          honey the codewitch wrote:

          It was my birthday last wednesday.

          Happy belated birthday! :D

          honey the codewitch wrote:

          probably your fault.

          I'm only pointing out bugs like forgetting to assign return variables or using single line if statements :(( But it's still probably my fault, so yeah :-\

          honey the codewitch wrote:

          or one of those old haggy witches that gets dragged through the village square and burned (my retirement plan #aesthetic)

          If I see more of those single line if statements this may well come sooner than you'd think... Here comes the trusty old pitchfork again! :D Anyway, threats promises aside, here's to 42 :beer:

          Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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          honey the codewitch
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          I've been meaning to tell you that I start with the braces. Then delete them. I'm not joking.

          When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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            I've been meaning to tell you that I start with the braces. Then delete them. I'm not joking.

            When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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            Sander Rossel
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            I... I don't... know... out of... words... :wtf: Luckily I'm not out of pitchforks though! X| Actual footage of me coming to your house[^] :D

            Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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            • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

              We all know that pet-projects are not to finish, but to learn and enjoy...

              "The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012

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              Forogar
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              I have many, many pet projects that I started with great enthusiasm and curiosity, "can I make this work?". Many of them petered out once I got the "yes, I can make this work" stage as I lost any determination just to polish it to the end point. I wrote many games for my friends to play but if there was no interest from one or more of my friends then the project would fade away.

              - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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              • H honey the codewitch

                these days I'm sure you can. What with all the hobbyist kits out there now. best of luck with this project. i've been considering building a custom ECU for certain types of diesel engines - the kind used in schoolbusses and other medium industrial vehicles making them more suitable as boondocking vehicles, but i didn't have the property i needed to be able to work on one until maybe now. We'll see. It's a hail mary of an idea, but it's kind of cool if anything comes of it.

                When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                CodeWraith
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                Schoolbus? How boring :-) The Elf's CDP1802 was the first processor to fly into space. It was even believed that it was aboard the Viking and Voyager probes, but that's probably not true. That would be great when Voyager Six returns.

                I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                • H honey the codewitch

                  i was 8 when reagan was in office. I liked to read while eating breakfast. If not for that I may have never picked up that Applesoft BASIC manual that shipped with our craptastic Apple ][gs By the next year i was wiring stuff into the joystick port on the motherboard. 10 years later i was at microsoft.

                  When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                  kmoorevs
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                  My family got a TI/99-4a around '83 I think. I learned how to write BASIC programs to solve my HS algebra/geometry/trig homework problems. A few years later, I was at UNI as a CS major until I found a job that paid well, but interfered with lab hours so I quit school. 10 years later, I went back to school and finished. I got my first coding job before I graduated and I'm still here 20 years later! :)

                  "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                    Schoolbus? How boring :-) The Elf's CDP1802 was the first processor to fly into space. It was even believed that it was aboard the Viking and Voyager probes, but that's probably not true. That would be great when Voyager Six returns.

                    I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                    honey the codewitch
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                    the exciting part isn't so much the tech, but what can be done with it.

                    When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                    • H honey the codewitch

                      i was 8 when reagan was in office. I liked to read while eating breakfast. If not for that I may have never picked up that Applesoft BASIC manual that shipped with our craptastic Apple ][gs By the next year i was wiring stuff into the joystick port on the motherboard. 10 years later i was at microsoft.

                      When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                      When I was about 10, my father gave an AP course in FORTRAN for high-school students at the local University. He took me along a couple of times, and I was hooked. This was about the year 6 BT (Before Terminals). God only knows how many punched cards I ruined before I got a program that would compile. :-O

                      Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                        When I was about 10, my father gave an AP course in FORTRAN for high-school students at the local University. He took me along a couple of times, and I was hooked. This was about the year 6 BT (Before Terminals). God only knows how many punched cards I ruined before I got a program that would compile. :-O

                        Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                        honey the codewitch
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                        6 BT :laugh: :thumbsup::thumbsup:

                        When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                          You're not young, 40 is like ancient :laugh: And with 31 (almost 32) I'm not that young myself anymore :sigh: WoW came out when I was still in high school. I'd say I'm a little too young to have played Warcraft: Orcs & Humans, but I have played Age of Empires which was released only two years later :laugh: I've played Warcraft III though.

                          Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                          Beware! I AM young... still...

                          "The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012

                          "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                            I... I don't... know... out of... words... :wtf: Luckily I'm not out of pitchforks though! X| Actual footage of me coming to your house[^] :D

                            Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                            honey the codewitch
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                            well you'll be happy to know that due to my aversion to this:

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                            I've been using Refactor->Extract Method what a wonderful feature.

                            When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                            • H honey the codewitch

                              i was 8 when reagan was in office. I liked to read while eating breakfast. If not for that I may have never picked up that Applesoft BASIC manual that shipped with our craptastic Apple ][gs By the next year i was wiring stuff into the joystick port on the motherboard. 10 years later i was at microsoft.

                              When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                              Was gainfully employed as a chemist and was exploring a new Inductively Coupled Argon Plasma Spectrometer we had just bought. Could not find any analysis tools for the PDP-11 running the dang thing, so I learned PDP-11 assembly and wrote my own. Then did the same for a Gas Chromatograph we were using for oilfield gas analysis.

                              A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, navigate a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects! - Lazarus Long

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                                Was gainfully employed as a chemist and was exploring a new Inductively Coupled Argon Plasma Spectrometer we had just bought. Could not find any analysis tools for the PDP-11 running the dang thing, so I learned PDP-11 assembly and wrote my own. Then did the same for a Gas Chromatograph we were using for oilfield gas analysis.

                                A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, navigate a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects! - Lazarus Long

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                                honey the codewitch
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                                what a way to get started. into the fire as it were. I almost bought a crusty old PDP-11 but i didn't know where i'd keep it. These days, i could probably emulate one on a phone. :laugh:

                                When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                                  Well when I heard of it I was thinking a microcontroller could get rid of the discrete logic (and the joys of static/dynamic hazards due to propagation delay) but wasn't too sure if you wanted to go that route...

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                                  The biggest problem at the moment is to find a PIC32 that still runs at 5V. I could run the CDP1802 at 3.6V, but then I would have to lower its clock frequency. I have had an underclocked 1802 for 40 years, now I want to overclock[^] it. I intend a smaller PIC to conrol the 1802's clock frequency and operating mode. It also must communicate with a small serial ROM and copy it's contents into memory after a reset. This way I can keep the ROM out of the Elf's memory map and still have something to boot from. With a PIC in control of the clock frequency, I can do almost everything, from single stepping instructions to full blast or overclocking.

                                  I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                                  • H honey the codewitch

                                    i was 8 when reagan was in office. I liked to read while eating breakfast. If not for that I may have never picked up that Applesoft BASIC manual that shipped with our craptastic Apple ][gs By the next year i was wiring stuff into the joystick port on the motherboard. 10 years later i was at microsoft.

                                    When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                                    MarkTJohnson
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                                    I sucked rocks as an elementary school teacher. Was married and needed a new career. Luckily, programming and I were a good fit.

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                                      what a way to get started. into the fire as it were. I almost bought a crusty old PDP-11 but i didn't know where i'd keep it. These days, i could probably emulate one on a phone. :laugh:

                                      When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                                      what a way to get started. into the fire as it were.

                                      Yep. Bear in mind that the argon plasma was created by passing argon gas through a coil of water cooled copper tubing energized by a 5KW RF generator. Never set anything on fire, but the generator frequency was very close to the middle of the CB Radio bands. If we ever forgot to close the faraday cage, we blew up every CB radio in town.

                                      A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, navigate a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects! - Lazarus Long

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                                      • H honey the codewitch

                                        i was 8 when reagan was in office. I liked to read while eating breakfast. If not for that I may have never picked up that Applesoft BASIC manual that shipped with our craptastic Apple ][gs By the next year i was wiring stuff into the joystick port on the motherboard. 10 years later i was at microsoft.

                                        When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                                        BillW33
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                                        I got to do some C programming in my first calculus class in college and found out that I enjoyed it. I picked up more programming skills on my own then decided to take some programming classes. Fun times :-D

                                        Just because the code works, it doesn't mean that it is good code.

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                                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                          Failed my last year of University* because I had been playing World of Warcraft too much. I still lived at home and my parents weren't pleased. They just sold their IT company to an uncle, an employee and a third that wasn't with the company until he bought it. My mom said "you're going to find a job or I'll do it for you, you can start there!" And I said "but I don't even know how to write code!" And then she gently whispered "THEN YOU'LL FUCKING LEARN! :mad::mad::mad:" And so I was hired because I was the son of old management and the nephew of new management and also because I had some affinity with computers, being a gamer and all. No one in this story regretted that decision. I liked programming and I learned it very quickly. I learned a lot, wrote some great software, introduced some new technology to the company, made them a lot of money (earned some myself as well), and then I moved on after four years :D Another five or so years later and here I am :D *I still finished that last year of University, earning me the title Master of Arts :D

                                          Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                                          NeverJustHere
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                                          I was fortunate enough to convince my parents to get me a ZX Spectrum as a Christmas present in 84, when I was 13. In those days, you could buy magazines that contained BASIC print outs for games. I learnt to debug before learnt to program. You'd type in a program, run it and get some weird result - and have to try to figure out where I'd miskeyed something. I started being able to see how the bug could manifest itself given the code I'd entered - something I believe I'm better at than most programmers. From there it was a matter of modifying the programs, and mashing bits of them together into new ones.

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