Code Project Project(s) Update [long but important]
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Jason Henderson wrote: Idea submittal and voting have come to a slow crawl People just arn't finding these new threads, after all it took me a while and I'm quite keen. Maybe we should get some kind of email update going... Or a cover article on the CP front page.**
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Or just write up that CP Community Tools project... ;P John
"We want to be alone when we hear too many words and we feel alone when it has been a while since anyone has spoken to us." Paul David Tripp -- War of Words -
First of all, I hope I'm not doing the wrong thing by replying here. Second of all, here's my thoughts: Jason Henderson wrote: Idea submittal and voting have come to a slow crawl or stopped altogether so we'll just say its time to chose the final three projects. My thoughts exactly. Jason Henderson wrote: Universal Gui LibrarY (UGLY) Please, not UGLY! That's the opposite of what we want! How about SUIT - SmartUI Toolkit. Also, if we do a UI Library first, then it's easy to start out simple - do it one control at a time :) . We can stop any place along the way. Jason Henderson wrote: Divide up into teams (I have an idea on how to do this but we'll discuss later). I have an idea too... later. :) Jason Henderson wrote: Project leaders and team members will then need to define the scope and timeline for the project. A design document would be very nice. Anyone have a nice Design Doc template? I have some ideas and questions - where shall we discuss it? GOOD JOB, JASON!
"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God." - Jesus
"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Mahatma GandhiAnd definitely not a Smart Hip Integrated Toolkit. --
"The money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its rule by preying upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is concentrated in a few hands and the Republic destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln
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Paul Watson wrote: A few questions, but first; Great job so far Jason, you have cracked that whip and kept what to me looks like a bowl full of buttered kittens in line. Thank you. Its a lot like herding cats (for more info, see a super bowl commercial from a couple years back). Paul Watson wrote: What is the official name that the projects will be published under? Good question. Got any ideas? Paul Watson wrote: Are we working on a logo of some sorts? (the kind that can be put in an About box) If we publish under a single group entity, we need a logo. We need a cool one! Paul Watson wrote: I vote you as overall high commander of the... I mean CPP Coordinator. I think it is something we will need as people splinter off and try to start more than three projects I really can't do anything about people starting other projects outside of our 3. I do think that they will fail completely if they don't follow the methods we come up with here. How do you manage 50 developers around the world??? :~ Paul Watson wrote: Oh and finally; How the heck does Source Versioning (CVS, VSS etc.) and Defect Tracking work together? I would think defect/bug/issue tracking falls under something like PMS. Heck if I know. :) We'll let the teams decide how their respective projects work.
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
Jason Henderson wrote: If we publish under a single group entity, we need a logo. We need a cool one! What about something like Bob? Maybe a friend of Bob's could be the logo. Bobby Lee? --
"The money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its rule by preying upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is concentrated in a few hands and the Republic destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln
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Jason Henderson wrote: Idea submittal and voting have come to a slow crawl People just arn't finding these new threads, after all it took me a while and I'm quite keen. Maybe we should get some kind of email update going... Or a cover article on the CP front page.**
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Joel Holdsworth wrote: People just arn't finding these new threads It is getting difficult to find the new threads. Once we get past this stage the ideal would be to have a "CPP" section on the left of the home page. So perphaps under "Community" a link to CPP. The category of the article would be CPP. --
"The money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its rule by preying upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is concentrated in a few hands and the Republic destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln
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Jason, I am sure you know what you are doing, but I found this and might help everyone http://www.construx.com/survivalguide/test.htm[^] I am going to use it for my HAI project, i think. Later,
JoeSox
www.humanaiproject.org "Dream as if you'll live forever; live as if you'll die tomorrow." - James Dean(ISTP)Perhaps we could use some of this. Project leaders could evaluate their project with it (some of it).
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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A few questions, but first; Great job so far Jason, you have cracked that whip and kept what to me looks like a bowl full of buttered kittens in line.
- What is the official name that the projects will be published under?
- Are we working on a logo of some sorts? (the kind that can be put in an About box)
- I vote you as overall high commander of the... I mean CPP Coordinator. I think it is something we will need as people splinter off and try to start more than three projects
Jason Henderson wrote: 3.8 Defect Tracking/Source Versioning (16) Oh and finally; How the heck does Source Versioning (CVS, VSS etc.) and Defect Tracking work together? I would think defect/bug/issue tracking falls under something like PMS.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
Paul Watson wrote: I vote you as overall high commander of the... I mean CPP Coordinator I am fond of the title "high commander" as well. :) Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton
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Paul Watson wrote: I vote you as overall high commander of the... I mean CPP Coordinator I am fond of the title "high commander" as well. :) Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton
Chris Austin wrote: am fond of the title "high commander" as well. It reminds me of Third Rock From The Sun. We must do the salute, and I reckon Nish would make a good intergalactic radio. Now we just need to find a Sally. :-D
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
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:laugh: David Stone wrote: some of the women around the office saw it and got a little upset. Everyone is so touchy nowadays. I wish the acronym PC could have remained "Personal Computer". But no, I now I have tell people that I'm an ego-challenged, politically disenfranchised, monetarily weakened, non-available single citizen of the earth involved in a heterosexual relationship. X| Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"Marc Clifton wrote: I'm an ego-challenged, politically disenfranchised, monetarily weakened, non-available single citizen of the earth involved in a heterosexual relationship. :laugh: Nice one Marc. :)
Hawaian shirts and shorts work too in Summer. People assume you're either a complete nut (in which case not a worthy target) or so damn good you don't need to worry about camouflage... -Anna-Jayne Metcalfe on Paintballing
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Paul Watson wrote: A few questions, but first; Great job so far Jason, you have cracked that whip and kept what to me looks like a bowl full of buttered kittens in line. Thank you. Its a lot like herding cats (for more info, see a super bowl commercial from a couple years back). Paul Watson wrote: What is the official name that the projects will be published under? Good question. Got any ideas? Paul Watson wrote: Are we working on a logo of some sorts? (the kind that can be put in an About box) If we publish under a single group entity, we need a logo. We need a cool one! Paul Watson wrote: I vote you as overall high commander of the... I mean CPP Coordinator. I think it is something we will need as people splinter off and try to start more than three projects I really can't do anything about people starting other projects outside of our 3. I do think that they will fail completely if they don't follow the methods we come up with here. How do you manage 50 developers around the world??? :~ Paul Watson wrote: Oh and finally; How the heck does Source Versioning (CVS, VSS etc.) and Defect Tracking work together? I would think defect/bug/issue tracking falls under something like PMS. Heck if I know. :) We'll let the teams decide how their respective projects work.
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
Jason Henderson wrote: Are we working on a logo of some sorts? (the kind that can be put in an About box) I tried playing with Corel Draw for 10 Minutes, and drew a blank on how to draw loads of clever developers, so I tried drawing UGLY which is a LOT easier. http://website.lineone.net/~joelholdsworth/ugly.jpg[^] If anyone has any ideas for a team banner, I can draw it out if needs be.**
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UGLY is just the opposite of what we want - we want something that looks nice. Would you buy a toolkit that's called "UGLY"??? I think we should have a vote on this one.
"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God." - Jesus
"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Mahatma GandhiWhat if we add some letter so it is easier to find with Google? UGHLY or UUGLY or UUGLI "UUGLY graphics" gives only two hits on google. We could monitor how much it is used, just by a simple search. jhaga CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!
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Jason Henderson wrote: Are we working on a logo of some sorts? (the kind that can be put in an About box) I tried playing with Corel Draw for 10 Minutes, and drew a blank on how to draw loads of clever developers, so I tried drawing UGLY which is a LOT easier. http://website.lineone.net/~joelholdsworth/ugly.jpg[^] If anyone has any ideas for a team banner, I can draw it out if needs be.**
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Nice!
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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Chris Austin wrote: am fond of the title "high commander" as well. It reminds me of Third Rock From The Sun. We must do the salute, and I reckon Nish would make a good intergalactic radio. Now we just need to find a Sally. :-D
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
Then we were thinking along the same lines. :) 3rd Rock is still my favorite show. Is Chirs M “The Big Giant Head” aka Stone Phillips? Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton
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Then we were thinking along the same lines. :) 3rd Rock is still my favorite show. Is Chirs M “The Big Giant Head” aka Stone Phillips? Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton
Chris Austin wrote: Is Chirs M “The Big Giant Head” aka Stone Phillips? :: Incoming message from The Big Giant Head :> Paul, you tell him and I will take away your icon and all Earth visitation privileges, including the women! :: Message ends Errr, no, Chris is not The Big Giant Head... :~
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
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Jason Henderson wrote: Are we working on a logo of some sorts? (the kind that can be put in an About box) I tried playing with Corel Draw for 10 Minutes, and drew a blank on how to draw loads of clever developers, so I tried drawing UGLY which is a LOT easier. http://website.lineone.net/~joelholdsworth/ugly.jpg[^] If anyone has any ideas for a team banner, I can draw it out if needs be.**
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Joel Holdsworth wrote: _http://website.lineone.net/~joelholdsworth/ugly.jpg\[^\]_ Nice cog! Good one.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
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What if we add some letter so it is easier to find with Google? UGHLY or UUGLY or UUGLI "UUGLY graphics" gives only two hits on google. We could monitor how much it is used, just by a simple search. jhaga CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!
But that doesn't have the same effect as UGLY. BTW, what's up with your sig? I mean, what does *c.* represent? I saw that post...and there was nothing bad with the words that Paul used.
Hawaian shirts and shorts work too in Summer. People assume you're either a complete nut (in which case not a worthy target) or so damn good you don't need to worry about camouflage... -Anna-Jayne Metcalfe on Paintballing
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Paul Watson wrote: Oh and finally; How the heck does Source Versioning (CVS, VSS etc.) and Defect Tracking work together? If you have a Source Control/Versioning and a Defect Tracker that work together, bugs can be attached to different versions of sourcecode and so on... You might see it as 2 different projects, and it might as well be that, but is you make it one project, you can make the "2 parts" work together (integrated). The other thing is that there is something to do for everyone to do on that project, all the way from you web-dudes, and to native C++ on the server. And yes, the project is my idea :-O - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
Anders Molin wrote: bugs can be attached to different versions of sourcecode and so on... Hey! Cool idea that, I like it. Anders Molin wrote: And yes, the project is my idea Don't be embarrassed, it is a good idea. What I think we should do though is build PMS and DTS (defect tracking system) and they work together. I said PMS was not a source system, but it certainly would be better if there was a source system out there that worked well with it. The defects/bugs/issues would then be tracked inside PMS while DTS handles the actual versioning of code etc. So yeah, good idea Anders, now we just need more votes on our ideas. *Paul hires a pron star to visit each CPians house, fluffing for votes* :rolleyes:
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
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But that doesn't have the same effect as UGLY. BTW, what's up with your sig? I mean, what does *c.* represent? I saw that post...and there was nothing bad with the words that Paul used.
Hawaian shirts and shorts work too in Summer. People assume you're either a complete nut (in which case not a worthy target) or so damn good you don't need to worry about camouflage... -Anna-Jayne Metcalfe on Paintballing
David Stone wrote: and there was nothing bad with the words that Paul used. I reckon it is because, as I am wont to blather on and on, the original did not fit in the 500 character limit of signatures. So he cut out the un-needed bits. Also "Anna waving her *c*" does sound rather nasty. :-D
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
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But that doesn't have the same effect as UGLY. BTW, what's up with your sig? I mean, what does *c.* represent? I saw that post...and there was nothing bad with the words that Paul used.
Hawaian shirts and shorts work too in Summer. People assume you're either a complete nut (in which case not a worthy target) or so damn good you don't need to worry about camouflage... -Anna-Jayne Metcalfe on Paintballing
You are right on both topics. *c.* is only there because I had to shorten it down to fit into 500 chars. But we could do some test voting on that name, just to get some experience on how it works. jhaga CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!
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A few questions, but first; Great job so far Jason, you have cracked that whip and kept what to me looks like a bowl full of buttered kittens in line.
- What is the official name that the projects will be published under?
- Are we working on a logo of some sorts? (the kind that can be put in an About box)
- I vote you as overall high commander of the... I mean CPP Coordinator. I think it is something we will need as people splinter off and try to start more than three projects
Jason Henderson wrote: 3.8 Defect Tracking/Source Versioning (16) Oh and finally; How the heck does Source Versioning (CVS, VSS etc.) and Defect Tracking work together? I would think defect/bug/issue tracking falls under something like PMS.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
Come up with a catchy slogan for this... http://www.eaglesoft.net/jasonh-xp/bob-army.jpg[^] Like these: Strength in numbers. CPP. Be all that you can be. CPP. Infinite possibilities. CPP.
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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Anders Molin wrote: bugs can be attached to different versions of sourcecode and so on... Hey! Cool idea that, I like it. Anders Molin wrote: And yes, the project is my idea Don't be embarrassed, it is a good idea. What I think we should do though is build PMS and DTS (defect tracking system) and they work together. I said PMS was not a source system, but it certainly would be better if there was a source system out there that worked well with it. The defects/bugs/issues would then be tracked inside PMS while DTS handles the actual versioning of code etc. So yeah, good idea Anders, now we just need more votes on our ideas. *Paul hires a pron star to visit each CPians house, fluffing for votes* :rolleyes:
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
Paul Watson wrote: What I think we should do though is build PMS and DTS (defect tracking system) and they work together. PMS? Paul Watson wrote: So yeah, good idea Anders, now we just need more votes on our ideas. Thanks :cool: - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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