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Actually surprised the media could even produce such junk

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  • M Munchies_Matt

    Just came across this laughable garbage: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/sep/17/tech-climate-change-luddites-data "Big tech claims AI and digitization will bring a better future. But putting computers everywhere is bad for people and the planet" "Our built environment is becoming one big computer. “Smartness” is coming to saturate our stores, workplaces, homes, cities. As we go about our daily lives, data is made, stored, analyzed and used to make algorithmic inferences about us that in turn structure our experience of the world. " So your fridge, should you have one that does this, knows you are consuming a lot of pork say, and directs you to a variety of pork suppliers. Is this 'structuring your experience of the world'? Or is it so mundane it no more structures it than an advert for Pepsi on a bill board? He then goes on to make some even more ridiculous claims about IT: "A growing chorus of activists, journalists and scholars are calling attention to the dangers of digital enclosure. Employers are using algorithmic tools to surveil and control workers. Cops are using algorithmic tools to surveil and control communities of color." Is there a growing backlash in certain parts of society against IT, or is this a desperate journalist looking for a story where there isnt one?

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    Nelek
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    I was wondering how long would it take you to open a new front in the lounge. The soapbox got closed. I hope you keep the profile a bit lower than there.

    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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    • M Munchies_Matt

      Just came across this laughable garbage: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/sep/17/tech-climate-change-luddites-data "Big tech claims AI and digitization will bring a better future. But putting computers everywhere is bad for people and the planet" "Our built environment is becoming one big computer. “Smartness” is coming to saturate our stores, workplaces, homes, cities. As we go about our daily lives, data is made, stored, analyzed and used to make algorithmic inferences about us that in turn structure our experience of the world. " So your fridge, should you have one that does this, knows you are consuming a lot of pork say, and directs you to a variety of pork suppliers. Is this 'structuring your experience of the world'? Or is it so mundane it no more structures it than an advert for Pepsi on a bill board? He then goes on to make some even more ridiculous claims about IT: "A growing chorus of activists, journalists and scholars are calling attention to the dangers of digital enclosure. Employers are using algorithmic tools to surveil and control workers. Cops are using algorithmic tools to surveil and control communities of color." Is there a growing backlash in certain parts of society against IT, or is this a desperate journalist looking for a story where there isnt one?

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      PeejayAdams
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      It's what is known as an opinion piece. To put it in simple terms, it's somebody's opinion. You've written several million of them yourself over the years but thankfully The Soapbox is dead now, so you'll have to find another platform.

      Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain

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      • P PeejayAdams

        It's what is known as an opinion piece. To put it in simple terms, it's somebody's opinion. You've written several million of them yourself over the years but thankfully The Soapbox is dead now, so you'll have to find another platform.

        Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain

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        Nelek
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        PeejayAdams wrote:

        but thankfully The Soapbox is dead now, so you'll have to find another platform.

        it seems he already did... the lounge :sigh:

        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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        • N Nelek

          I was wondering how long would it take you to open a new front in the lounge. The soapbox got closed. I hope you keep the profile a bit lower than there.

          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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          Munchies_Matt
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          This post is about IT, so I think entirely suitable in the lounge.

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          • P PeejayAdams

            It's what is known as an opinion piece. To put it in simple terms, it's somebody's opinion. You've written several million of them yourself over the years but thankfully The Soapbox is dead now, so you'll have to find another platform.

            Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain

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            Munchies_Matt
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            Of course, but the question is does his opinion reflect a trend in certain sectors of society. Is there a growing anti technology sentiment or not.

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            • N Nelek

              PeejayAdams wrote:

              but thankfully The Soapbox is dead now, so you'll have to find another platform.

              it seems he already did... the lounge :sigh:

              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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              CodeWraith
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              Not that I ever spent much time in the soapbox, but what did you expect? Edit: That's weird! somehow an 'm' is added to some words at the end every time I edit this post. :-) Edit 2: Found the cause! A big breadcrumb between the keys!

              I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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              • M Munchies_Matt

                Just came across this laughable garbage: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/sep/17/tech-climate-change-luddites-data "Big tech claims AI and digitization will bring a better future. But putting computers everywhere is bad for people and the planet" "Our built environment is becoming one big computer. “Smartness” is coming to saturate our stores, workplaces, homes, cities. As we go about our daily lives, data is made, stored, analyzed and used to make algorithmic inferences about us that in turn structure our experience of the world. " So your fridge, should you have one that does this, knows you are consuming a lot of pork say, and directs you to a variety of pork suppliers. Is this 'structuring your experience of the world'? Or is it so mundane it no more structures it than an advert for Pepsi on a bill board? He then goes on to make some even more ridiculous claims about IT: "A growing chorus of activists, journalists and scholars are calling attention to the dangers of digital enclosure. Employers are using algorithmic tools to surveil and control workers. Cops are using algorithmic tools to surveil and control communities of color." Is there a growing backlash in certain parts of society against IT, or is this a desperate journalist looking for a story where there isnt one?

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                ZurdoDev
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                Thank goodness something interesting in the Lounge. :thumbsup: The digital age is causing all kinds of problems but I don't think this article has much merit.

                Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                • Z ZurdoDev

                  Thank goodness something interesting in the Lounge. :thumbsup: The digital age is causing all kinds of problems but I don't think this article has much merit.

                  Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                  Munchies_Matt
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                  :) What I find interesting is the guys inability to recognise IT as just a step forward in technology and culture. OK, advertising is more focused, more directed, but it always has been directed and focused. The change is in scale, not type. Of course if he is just being an 'anti' then that is also interesting. Why? Why does he feel the desire to 'put the brakes on' regarding technology, what is he scared of?

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                  • M Munchies_Matt

                    Just came across this laughable garbage: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/sep/17/tech-climate-change-luddites-data "Big tech claims AI and digitization will bring a better future. But putting computers everywhere is bad for people and the planet" "Our built environment is becoming one big computer. “Smartness” is coming to saturate our stores, workplaces, homes, cities. As we go about our daily lives, data is made, stored, analyzed and used to make algorithmic inferences about us that in turn structure our experience of the world. " So your fridge, should you have one that does this, knows you are consuming a lot of pork say, and directs you to a variety of pork suppliers. Is this 'structuring your experience of the world'? Or is it so mundane it no more structures it than an advert for Pepsi on a bill board? He then goes on to make some even more ridiculous claims about IT: "A growing chorus of activists, journalists and scholars are calling attention to the dangers of digital enclosure. Employers are using algorithmic tools to surveil and control workers. Cops are using algorithmic tools to surveil and control communities of color." Is there a growing backlash in certain parts of society against IT, or is this a desperate journalist looking for a story where there isnt one?

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                    Slacker007
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                    I know what you are doing here and let me tell you, the high you get, it just is not as good as the real thing. :-D :thumbsup:

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                    • S Slacker007

                      I know what you are doing here and let me tell you, the high you get, it just is not as good as the real thing. :-D :thumbsup:

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                      Munchies_Matt
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                      Slacker007 wrote:

                      I know what you are doing here

                      I dont know what you mean! :cool:

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                      • M Munchies_Matt

                        :) What I find interesting is the guys inability to recognise IT as just a step forward in technology and culture. OK, advertising is more focused, more directed, but it always has been directed and focused. The change is in scale, not type. Of course if he is just being an 'anti' then that is also interesting. Why? Why does he feel the desire to 'put the brakes on' regarding technology, what is he scared of?

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                        ZurdoDev
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                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                        advertising is more focused

                        Exactly. Which is why I don't care if google tracks what I do online. I'd rather get focused advertisements of something I might want rather than just random stuff.

                        Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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