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Lazy programmers ... I hate 'em.

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  • R rtischer8277

    We are living in the age of software architecture-by-middle-level-managers: "Use this (software) tool, it's hot; be done by Friday (or else)." This is where all our technical debt came from. Just look at HTML with its simplistic ...... semantic structure, if you can even call an office-memo-style a structure. HTML was just one instance of the SGML standard which was able to produce an infinite number of HTMLs. Yet, that is what we got. So poor has HTML been at describing computer-tractable structure that the abominable JavaScript was created just to get something to work by "Friday". So, are programmers lazy? If you include being forced into hastily written code by higher-ups as lazy, then yes. Whichever is the case, their software output is indeed eating the world.

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    I fixed your empty link - be careful with those:

    Title

    looks a lot like "hidden link spam" and can get you kicked off the site erroneously.

    Title

    Is fine (when the link goes to somewhere useful as in your case.)

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      I fixed your empty link - be careful with those:

      Title

      looks a lot like "hidden link spam" and can get you kicked off the site erroneously.

      Title

      Is fine (when the link goes to somewhere useful as in your case.)

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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      rtischer8277
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      Your editing ruined the point of my reply.

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        Your editing ruined the point of my reply.

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        OriginalGriff
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        Sorry - but there are trigger-happy members here, who would assume malicious intent and start the kicking process if I left it.

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          Sorry - but there are trigger-happy members here, who would assume malicious intent and start the kicking process if I left it.

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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          rtischer8277
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          One day, false positive security actions will be considered malfeasance along side hacking.

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            The thermostat light on the cooker failed yesterday - the food was fine, but you can't tell when the oven is ready - so I dismantled the cooker today to check the part I needed. Then I found that on the manufacturers' site (they have quite a few, and there are three on just this one cooker, so I needed the right one) and ordered it. Or at least, I tried to - the "add to basket" button did nothing at all. Eventually, I switch from Chrome to Edge to order, and it works fine. So I try to let them know - and apart from a toll-rate phone number, there is no way to contact them ... Given that Edge is switching to the Chromium engine pretty soon, I have though at least some testing with the world's most popular browser would have been an idea, but obviously not ... their loss when nobody can order stuff, I guess. Lazy, lazy, lazy ...

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            My list of web sites that FireFox cannot handle is growing steadily. Sometimes, the entire page won't display. Sometimes, most of it works, but links to external resources (such as videos or discussion fora) are not handled. Some hooks that used to work with FireFox (e.g. for picking up the URLs of videos I view in FF), but a year or two ago, they changed something that forces me to switch to another browser. I try to avoid anything that has the "Google" stamp on it (in particular if there is any sort of login) - they are just too clever at invading my privacy. So my backup browser currently is IE11. FireFox does handle a few things well, though: E.g. I like the history mechanism. So for now, I still stick to FF as my first try, and go to IE11 only when FF fails. That happens more and more frequently. Every new FF release seems to add more websites to my "Doesn't work with FF" list. I do not have the spare time to get involved in FF development. Whatever is claimed: Reporting "problem websites" to the developers so that they can look into it never has any effect. I used to do that earlier, both for commercial and open source project: It never lead to anything. Usually, when I check two years later if anything has changed, the problem is still as strong and lively as ever. So there are strong hints that I quite soon will have to find myself another default browser. It won't be Chrome. An alternative that is both Google and MS is not quite among my favorites. So maybe I will switch to IE11 as my default, not only when having problems, and then go to FF for those pages that doesn't work with IE11.

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            • K kmoorevs

              Speaking of lazy developers, there are so many sites that are simply unusable if you happen to have browser debugging enabled. :(

              "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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              Steve Naidamast
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              There are many sites that are simply unusable no matter what your browser or what is enabled... :-D

              Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com

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                Why do you want to debug your browser?

                I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                Andre_Prellwitz
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                Browser debugging *turned on*? What is this, 2004? STOP USING IE, FFS!

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  I wish. Herself has three recipes, two of which she stole from me and reduced to make them easier for her to cook. The best food she cooks is stuff I vacuum sealed and stuck in the freezer ... :sigh:

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                  My guess is that she's not really good at reading your stuff on the web either.

                  I'm retired. There's a nap for that... - Harvey

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                    My guess is that she's not really good at reading your stuff on the web either.

                    I'm retired. There's a nap for that... - Harvey

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                    OriginalGriff
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                    A little technophobic, she looks at cat pictures, Google news, the New York Times, and jigsaw puzzles. And swears her head off when the tablet battery runs low... :laugh:

                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                    • S Steve Naidamast

                      There are many sites that are simply unusable no matter what your browser or what is enabled... :-D

                      Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com

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                      irneb
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                      Even though they're "functional", pretty useless still!

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