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  • P PIEBALDconsult

    Macros for the win. :cool:

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    Gary Wheeler
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    You're sick and twisted. I like it. :-D

    Software Zen: delete this;

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    • P PeejayAdams

      Which would refactor to something like this: double lowerBound = double.Parse(ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["LowerBound"].ToString()); double upperBound = double.Parse(ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["UpperBound"].ToString()); List facesWithinRange = allFaces.Where(f => f.Proportion > lowerBound && f.Proportion < upperBound).ToList(); Face faceToUse = facesWithinRange.OrderBy(f => f.Proportion).ThenByDescending(f => f.Rectangle.Height).FirstOrDefault(); OutputImage(file, faceToUse); (Apologies for complete HTML fail) In this particular case, it's not really making it much more readable to my eyes but I can see that there are situations where it would.

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      Dave Kreskowiak
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      It's a bit more readable, and in this case, it's a lot more debuggable. You now have your bounds and list in variables, making it easier to figure out why you're not getting the results you should be getting. On top of that, the code doesn't check for bounds being valid values or even readable from AppSettings and breaking it out into variables makes that easier to spot and fix.

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        That's the one I'd go with too. Except I'd put the dots on the new line:

        OutputImage(file,
        allFaces.Where(f => f.Proportion > lowerBound &&
        f.Proportion < upperBound)
        .ToList()
        .OrderBy(f => f.Proportion)
        .ThenByDescending(f => f.Rectangle.Height)
        .FirstOrDefault());

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        agolddog
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        #44

        Yep, more like this.

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        • P PeejayAdams

          Sometimes you find yourself writing a stupidly long line of code, in my case:

          OutputImage(file, allFaces.Where(f => f.Proportion > double.Parse(ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["LowerBound"].ToString()) && f.Proportion < double.Parse(ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["UpperBound"].ToString())).ToList().OrderBy(f => f.Proportion).ThenByDescending(f => f.Rectangle.Height).FirstOrDefault());

          That will auto-wrap on here but you get the idea. Well, obviously I can shorten that line (but lengthen the code slightly) by splitting out the config setting retrievals:

          double lowerBound = double.Parse(ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["LowerBound"].ToString());
          double upperBound = double.Parse(ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["UpperBound"].ToString());

          reducing the "offending" line to:

          OutputImage(file, allFaces.Where(f => f.Proportion > lowerBound && f.Proportion < upperBound).ToList().OrderBy(f => f.Proportion).ThenByDescending(f => f.Rectangle.Height).FirstOrDefault());

          But given that I'm not using those settings more than once, should I really be doing that? Two short-lived variables aren't going to make too much difference but I'm still doing it for cosmetic reasons and that can't be good ... Either way, it's easy enough to split a method call where there are half a ton of arguments over several lines of text but what about when it's just one of the arguments that's causing the thing to scroll for miles? (Lambdas being a common cause of this). Hardly a matter of life and death but I'd be interested to hear the thoughts of others on this.

          Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain

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          Dan Neely
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          class ConfigWrapper
          {
          public static double LowerBound { get { return double.Parse(ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["LowerBound"].ToString()); } }
          public static double UpperBound { get { return double.Parse(ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["UpperBound"].ToString()); } }
          ...
          }

          ...

          var face = allFaces.Where(f => f.Proportion > lowerBound && f.Proportion < upperBound).ToList()
          .OrderBy(f => f.Proportion).ThenByDescending(f => f.Rectangle.Height).FirstOrDefault();
          OutputImage(file, face);

          Wrap the config so that you can be sure it's always accessed correctly, and can potentially do lazy loading and data validation. This also makes changing hard coded app.config settings into user configurable ones later on a lot less painful. Unless I was doing something that LINQ couldn't translate to SQL or that caused it to do something terribly inefficient, I'd drop the `ToList()` in the middle of the method chain as useless overhead.

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          • M Marc Clifton

            PeejayAdams wrote:

            Two short-lived variables

            Lifetime should not influence readability. I almost always put things into variables not just for readability but that it makes it easier to debug. Given:

            OutputImage(file, allFaces.Where(f => f.Proportion > double.Parse(ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["LowerBound"].ToString()) && f.Proportion < double.Parse(ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["UpperBound"].ToString())).ToList().OrderBy(f => f.Proportion).ThenByDescending(f => f.Rectangle.Height).FirstOrDefault());

            I do have a penchant for extension methods. As in:

            var face = allFaces
            .AnyBetween(f => f.Proportion, "LowerBound".AppSetting().to_f(), "UpperBound".AppSetting().to_f())
            .OrderBy(f => f.Proportion)
            .ThenByDescending(f => f.Rectangle.Height)
            .FirstOrDefault();
            OutputImage(file, face);

            As bizarre as it is to extend string, I find it a lot more readable. The ToList() seems superfluous. Not sure you want to output an image if no images meet the selection criteria. I might move FirstOrDefault into OutputImage(file, face.FirstOrDefault()); as well, who knows, the way you get the faces might be re-usable. I leave it to the reader to figure out to_f, AnyBetween, and AppSettings Should be obvious.

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            Marc Clifton wrote:

            The ToList() seems superfluous

            It (and ToArray) nearly always is. (But I'm not about to try to read that code.

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            • D Dave Kreskowiak

              It's a bit more readable, and in this case, it's a lot more debuggable. You now have your bounds and list in variables, making it easier to figure out why you're not getting the results you should be getting. On top of that, the code doesn't check for bounds being valid values or even readable from AppSettings and breaking it out into variables makes that easier to spot and fix.

              Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
              Dave Kreskowiak

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              PeejayAdams
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              #47

              As mentioned elsewhere, Dave, this is from a Q&D proof of concept demo thing, not production code and was intended to be purely illustrative of a very long line of code. No way would I release something into the real world without validating config sections but as I said, this thread ain't about a code review!

              Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain

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              • P PeejayAdams

                Sometimes you find yourself writing a stupidly long line of code, in my case:

                OutputImage(file, allFaces.Where(f => f.Proportion > double.Parse(ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["LowerBound"].ToString()) && f.Proportion < double.Parse(ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["UpperBound"].ToString())).ToList().OrderBy(f => f.Proportion).ThenByDescending(f => f.Rectangle.Height).FirstOrDefault());

                That will auto-wrap on here but you get the idea. Well, obviously I can shorten that line (but lengthen the code slightly) by splitting out the config setting retrievals:

                double lowerBound = double.Parse(ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["LowerBound"].ToString());
                double upperBound = double.Parse(ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["UpperBound"].ToString());

                reducing the "offending" line to:

                OutputImage(file, allFaces.Where(f => f.Proportion > lowerBound && f.Proportion < upperBound).ToList().OrderBy(f => f.Proportion).ThenByDescending(f => f.Rectangle.Height).FirstOrDefault());

                But given that I'm not using those settings more than once, should I really be doing that? Two short-lived variables aren't going to make too much difference but I'm still doing it for cosmetic reasons and that can't be good ... Either way, it's easy enough to split a method call where there are half a ton of arguments over several lines of text but what about when it's just one of the arguments that's causing the thing to scroll for miles? (Lambdas being a common cause of this). Hardly a matter of life and death but I'd be interested to hear the thoughts of others on this.

                Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain

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                obermd
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                Yes, you should do the latter, even though lowerBound and upperBound are only used once. The reason is maintainability. This shouldn't even be a question for anyone who has ever had to read and modify someone else's code.

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                • P PeejayAdams

                  Sometimes you find yourself writing a stupidly long line of code, in my case:

                  OutputImage(file, allFaces.Where(f => f.Proportion > double.Parse(ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["LowerBound"].ToString()) && f.Proportion < double.Parse(ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["UpperBound"].ToString())).ToList().OrderBy(f => f.Proportion).ThenByDescending(f => f.Rectangle.Height).FirstOrDefault());

                  That will auto-wrap on here but you get the idea. Well, obviously I can shorten that line (but lengthen the code slightly) by splitting out the config setting retrievals:

                  double lowerBound = double.Parse(ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["LowerBound"].ToString());
                  double upperBound = double.Parse(ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["UpperBound"].ToString());

                  reducing the "offending" line to:

                  OutputImage(file, allFaces.Where(f => f.Proportion > lowerBound && f.Proportion < upperBound).ToList().OrderBy(f => f.Proportion).ThenByDescending(f => f.Rectangle.Height).FirstOrDefault());

                  But given that I'm not using those settings more than once, should I really be doing that? Two short-lived variables aren't going to make too much difference but I'm still doing it for cosmetic reasons and that can't be good ... Either way, it's easy enough to split a method call where there are half a ton of arguments over several lines of text but what about when it's just one of the arguments that's causing the thing to scroll for miles? (Lambdas being a common cause of this). Hardly a matter of life and death but I'd be interested to hear the thoughts of others on this.

                  Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain

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                  Thomas James
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                  I don't think it's necessary to add the extra variables to make the code readable. Just split the lines where it makes sense. That should be enough.

                  OutputImage(file, allFaces.Where(f =>
                  f.Proportion > double.Parse(ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["LowerBound"].ToString()) &&
                  f.Proportion < double.Parse(ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["UpperBound"].ToString())).ToList()
                  .OrderBy(f => f.Proportion)
                  .ThenByDescending(f => f.Rectangle.Height)
                  .FirstOrDefault());

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                  • P PeejayAdams

                    Sometimes you find yourself writing a stupidly long line of code, in my case:

                    OutputImage(file, allFaces.Where(f => f.Proportion > double.Parse(ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["LowerBound"].ToString()) && f.Proportion < double.Parse(ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["UpperBound"].ToString())).ToList().OrderBy(f => f.Proportion).ThenByDescending(f => f.Rectangle.Height).FirstOrDefault());

                    That will auto-wrap on here but you get the idea. Well, obviously I can shorten that line (but lengthen the code slightly) by splitting out the config setting retrievals:

                    double lowerBound = double.Parse(ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["LowerBound"].ToString());
                    double upperBound = double.Parse(ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["UpperBound"].ToString());

                    reducing the "offending" line to:

                    OutputImage(file, allFaces.Where(f => f.Proportion > lowerBound && f.Proportion < upperBound).ToList().OrderBy(f => f.Proportion).ThenByDescending(f => f.Rectangle.Height).FirstOrDefault());

                    But given that I'm not using those settings more than once, should I really be doing that? Two short-lived variables aren't going to make too much difference but I'm still doing it for cosmetic reasons and that can't be good ... Either way, it's easy enough to split a method call where there are half a ton of arguments over several lines of text but what about when it's just one of the arguments that's causing the thing to scroll for miles? (Lambdas being a common cause of this). Hardly a matter of life and death but I'd be interested to hear the thoughts of others on this.

                    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain

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                    MikeTheFid
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                    I haven't read all the responses yet, by here's my take in general terms. As devs, we sometimes encounter situations where competing priorities become evident. Like when the ideal of simplicity, readability, and maintainability run counter to runtime efficiency. I always bias my choices with empathy for the shmuck (fixer-person or enhancer-person) that comes later and must figure out what the :elephant: I was trying to do. Impossible-to-easily-parse code is a follow-on bug waiting to happen. There is nothing more insidiously degrading to a codebase than cascading bugs due to ill-informed, shoot-from-the-hip changes because the code is too difficult to grok. And we all know it happens. The kicker here is, unless it's message-loop-style code that runs continuously for the life of execution, it won't ever be an issue (AND, the compiler may even ultimately produce the same code.) endRant :)

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                    • D Dave Kreskowiak

                      It's a bit more readable, and in this case, it's a lot more debuggable. You now have your bounds and list in variables, making it easier to figure out why you're not getting the results you should be getting. On top of that, the code doesn't check for bounds being valid values or even readable from AppSettings and breaking it out into variables makes that easier to spot and fix.

                      Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
                      Dave Kreskowiak

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                      Dave Kreskowiak
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                      No, no, I wasn't looking at it from a code review perspective. I realize this is demo code. I was just using it's an example of why I would never have long lines like that, in any code. The validation check for the values doesn't have to be there because this is demo code. I was pointing out the case that breaking the lines out of the chain makes spotting such missing functionality easier.

                      Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
                      Dave Kreskowiak

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                      • P PeejayAdams

                        Sometimes you find yourself writing a stupidly long line of code, in my case:

                        OutputImage(file, allFaces.Where(f => f.Proportion > double.Parse(ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["LowerBound"].ToString()) && f.Proportion < double.Parse(ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["UpperBound"].ToString())).ToList().OrderBy(f => f.Proportion).ThenByDescending(f => f.Rectangle.Height).FirstOrDefault());

                        That will auto-wrap on here but you get the idea. Well, obviously I can shorten that line (but lengthen the code slightly) by splitting out the config setting retrievals:

                        double lowerBound = double.Parse(ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["LowerBound"].ToString());
                        double upperBound = double.Parse(ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["UpperBound"].ToString());

                        reducing the "offending" line to:

                        OutputImage(file, allFaces.Where(f => f.Proportion > lowerBound && f.Proportion < upperBound).ToList().OrderBy(f => f.Proportion).ThenByDescending(f => f.Rectangle.Height).FirstOrDefault());

                        But given that I'm not using those settings more than once, should I really be doing that? Two short-lived variables aren't going to make too much difference but I'm still doing it for cosmetic reasons and that can't be good ... Either way, it's easy enough to split a method call where there are half a ton of arguments over several lines of text but what about when it's just one of the arguments that's causing the thing to scroll for miles? (Lambdas being a common cause of this). Hardly a matter of life and death but I'd be interested to hear the thoughts of others on this.

                        Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain

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                        Jan Heckman
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                        Over the years, I've developed an attitude about this. If I want others (including myself in a later incarnation) to stay away, PLEASE do not think this is easy by being ""readable"", I densify, (un)justly believing in more efficient code (from a compiler or machine viewpoint). Intermediate stuff should be lighter, though.

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